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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 12:25 | owen | Hi all |
| 12:26 | paul | hi owen |
| 12:26 | fbcit | hi owen && paul |
| 12:29 | nengard | hi all |
| 12:34 | hdl | hi all |
| 12:51 | fbcit | labels et al in 074 seems to work fine here |
| 12:51 | kados ? | |
| 12:58 | atz | fbcit: i submitted 4 patches in the past several days to fix conspicuous bugs w/ labels |
| 12:58 | not sure how long they were there, but our clients definitely noticed | |
| 13:00 | fbcit | atz: have you read the post to koha-devel this morning |
| 13:01 | atz | yep, none of my patches are pushed up, afaik |
| 13:01 | so everybody else is getting the broken version | |
| 13:01 | it's crappy code | |
| 13:01 | pretty much everything was | |
| 13:02 | somebody started passing a template variable NAME="TYPE" | |
| 13:02 | but that doesn't jive, since we already reserve TYPE for opac vs. intranet | |
| 13:03 | so then CGI args got passed &type=intranet | |
| 13:03 | and the script use that to specify what table to insert on | |
| 13:03 | roundly bad ideas at each step | |
| 13:04 | since there is only one labels table, the selectivity idea didn't even make sense for me | |
| 13:04 | might be related to dev. that ryan is doing for patron-based (not item-based) labels/cards | |
| 13:05 | but I didn't hear back from him re: that | |
| 13:06 | fbcit | I'm guilty of introducing the TYPE issue due to ignorance on it being a reserved param |
| 13:07 | I can't speak for the patron-based card stuff, but I also introduced code to generate patron cards | |
| 13:09 | unfortunately the existing labels code/db design was so poor, it has come to the point where it seems to make more sense to start over and build two separate tools for labels and patron cards | |
| 13:09 | atz | fbcit: very true |
| 13:10 | I just typed similar words in an email back to the list :) | |
| 13:14 | i don't think anybody that's looked at the labels code is a fan of the labels code | |
| 13:19 | I ticketed a couple recently that I didn't fix | |
| 13:19 | couple *bugs | |
| 13:25 | fbcit | we should also go back to PDF::API2 imo |
| 13:27 | Vanzetti | hi |
| 13:27 | atz | aren't we already using it/ |
| 13:27 | ? | |
| 13:27 | hello Vanzetti | |
| 13:28 | Vanzetti | I'm trying to install koha, but I have a problem : not well-formed (invalid token) at line 1, column 8, byte 8 at /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.5/i386-linux-thread-multi/XML/Parser.pm line 187 |
| 13:28 | The install script doesn't go "well" | |
| 13:28 | atz | what version of koha? |
| 13:28 | Vanzetti | hmm 2.3 I think |
| 13:28 | yes 2.3 | |
| 13:28 | atz | i don't think i can help you w/ that one |
| 13:28 | Vanzetti | atz: which one do you use ? |
| 13:29 | atz | I work on the 3.0 development |
| 13:29 | Vanzetti | it works well ? |
| 13:29 | atz | not quite stabilized yet, causing much concern here. |
| 13:30 | but several of us in the US and Europe are supporting clients on it | |
| 13:30 | fbcit | atz: we use PDF::Reuse and P::R::Barcode iirc |
| 13:31 | Vanzetti | atz: where can I get it ? |
| 13:33 | atz: does it exists some documentation to set it up ? | |
| 13:33 | atz | yes the documentation is thorough |
| 13:34 | Vanzetti | any url ? |
| 13:34 | atz | the best option is to use git, so that you can hack koha for your purposes and still apply updates |
| 13:35 | git clone git://git.koha.org/pub/scm/koha.git kohaclone | |
| 13:35 | (git is the version control system used by the linux kernel hackers) | |
| 13:35 | otherwise: http://download.koha.org/koha-3.00.00-beta.tar.gz | |
| 13:35 | Vanzetti | yes I know git :) |
| 13:35 | thank you :) | |
| 13:35 | atz: where are you from ? | |
| 13:36 | atz | The middle of Ohio (US) |
| 13:36 | paul | and you Vanzetti ? |
| 13:36 | Vanzetti | France |
| 13:36 | paul | comme moi en quelque sorte ! |
| 13:36 | Vanzetti | I'm working for the "Revues.org" project |
| 13:36 | paul | french channel on #koha-fr ;-) |
| 13:36 | Vanzetti | ok thank you paul |
| 13:37 | atz | paul is one of the several talented bilingual Frenchman around here |
| 13:38 | Vanzetti | cool |
| 13:39 | atz | Vanzetti: for docs see the INSTALL.debian file |
| 13:40 | Vanzetti | the server I want to install koha is not under debian :) |
| 13:40 | RHEL4 | |
| 13:40 | (baaaad;)) | |
| 13:41 | atz | it should be similar... the main snag might be zebra |
| 13:41 | Vanzetti | ok |
| 13:43 | atz | i believe we've seen some people running on redhat... |
| 13:47 | Vanzetti | Well i think it's not really complicated, they're all linuxes |
| 13:48 | paul | because it can be a nightmare... trully |
| 13:53 | atz | indexdata says they have tested zebra on redhat, so it should be possile |
| 13:54 | paul | I installed koha on a RH server recently, it was a 64bits, and it was hard... |
| 14:06 | kados | Vanzetti: no-one in the community is using RHEL4, so why do you expect us to produce a manual for redhat? We're overloaded as it is with what little resources we have |
| 14:06 | Vanzetti: if you think there should be a redhat manual you are welcome to contribute it and we'd welcome it of course | |
| 14:08 | paul | hi kados. Vanzetti didn't request a RHEL manual. |
| 14:08 | and someone already wrote one in french. | |
| 14:08 | more an "install notes" than a manual, but it's available | |
| 14:08 | (it's lyon2, who invites us in june) | |
| 14:08 | kados | paul: can you send it to me? I will add it to INSTALL.redhat |
| 14:09 | paul: sorry, I may have confused Vanzetti with the guy from NZ asking for the same thing | |
| 14:09 | paul | nope, Vanzetti is a frenchie ;-) |
| 14:09 | kados : the doc is here (in french) : http://www.sigb-libres.info/gu[…]a3-alpha-fedora-7 | |
| 14:10 | kados | thanks |
| 14:10 | oh, it's quite long | |
| 14:10 | and a PDF :/ | |
| 14:10 | paul | yep |
| 14:11 | and in french | |
| 14:11 | kados | paul: can you get a OOo version? or plain text? |
| 14:12 | (this is another reason we should allow people to add to koha.org ... we won't have so much distributed documentation) | |
| 14:13 | paul | mail sent, you're cc |
| 14:14 | nengard | documentation in one place++ |
| 14:14 | paul | some news of the plone contest ? |
| 14:16 | kados | paul: nope, no news, it has been killed on the mailing list unfortunately |
| 14:16 | paul | ??? |
| 14:16 | kados | I hope to revisit it soon |
| 14:18 | nengard | kados and paul my suggestion is to set the site up with highest voted template and then have another design contest - that way we have the content up there and running! we can worry about look and feel later - just my opinion |
| 14:18 | kados | nengard: good idea |
| 14:19 | nengard | kados i think i sent that as a reply to the list |
| 14:19 | kados | nengard: I'll talk to clay (our new sysadmin) today to see what kind of timeline we can aim for |
| 14:19 | owen | Or we can just secretly tweak the design in little bits until we all like it :) |
| 14:19 | kados | owen: *nod* |
| 14:19 | nengard | owen++ |
| 14:19 | paul | the problem with your solution nengard, is the reward. |
| 14:19 | nengard | paul - there was a reward?? I didn't know that! |
| 14:20 | paul | if we use one, you'll have to pay the reward. And if it's just for 1 or 2 months, it's a shame |
| 14:20 | nengard | now i see the problem |
| 14:20 | kados | maybe we can retain the reward until they fix the style how we want it? |
| 14:20 | paul | maybe we could ask. |
| 14:20 | kados | paul: some news about my travel ... unfortunately it will be quite brief in France at the end |
| 14:20 | I have been invited to talk in St. Petersburg earlier that week | |
| 14:21 | paul: I've just sent you my itinerary overview | |
| 14:22 | paul | retain the reward: maybe a good idea, because i don't think the job is worth USD2500. (at least, the guys working on that didn't spend 2 or 3 days I think) |
| 14:22 | kados | paul: but I arrive in paris on 11 June ... so perhaps we could plan to meet then if you and/or hdl want to meet up |
| 14:22 | (after that I will go to visit Regula in Switzerland and take a holiday) | |
| 14:23 | Vanzetti | kados: firstly I have to install it successfully |
| 14:23 | kados | Vanzetti: *nod* |
| 14:23 | Vanzetti: did you see http://www.sigb-libres.info/gu[…]a3-alpha-fedora-7 | |
| 14:23 | ? | |
| 14:23 | hdl | kados : install notes on Fedora 7 was sent to you a month ago. |
| 14:24 | kados | hdl: really? |
| 14:24 | hdl: sorry, I must have missed it | |
| 14:24 | hdl: lets create INSTALL.fedora7 | |
| 14:24 | Vanzetti | kados: no i go to see it |
| 14:25 | kados | and maybe Vanzetti can create INSTALL.rhel |
| 14:26 | hdl: i don't see any email on install notes | |
| 14:26 | hdl: sorry :/ | |
| 14:26 | paul | I could write a INSTALL.mandriva I think (I already have some lines) |
| 14:26 | Vanzetti | maybe, who knows |
| 14:26 | firstly I have to install it | |
| 14:26 | kados | paul++ |
| 14:26 | paul | I just have problem with daemon |
| 14:26 | kados | paul: i think we are finding the zebra daemon is deprecated |
| 14:26 | paul: we favor rebuild_zebra.pl -z | |
| 14:26 | paul | that is unknown command for mandriva, and I couldn't find how to get it. |
| 14:27 | kados | oops, zebraqueue daemon |
| 14:27 | zebra daemon still lives | |
| 14:27 | paul | yep. |
| 14:27 | Vanzetti | but our redhat install is like a LFS install |
| 14:27 | we just have the kernel that is redhat, and some useless packages | |
| 14:30 | kados | *nod* |
| 14:42 | owen | By the way, nengard, system pref names and descriptions are not template issues. Those values are stored in the database. |
| 14:43 | Changing them requires modifications to the scripts which modify the database | |
| 14:43 | kados | yea, we should probably store all the changes we want to make there in one place so it can be done with one database upgrade |
| 14:49 | nengard | owen - it wasn't the sys pref name that was a problem - it was the descriptions of the pref - it was referencing a system pref that didn't exist anymore ;) |
| 14:49 | owen - oh!! | |
| 14:49 | sorry just was that descriptions were included in that | |
| 14:49 | okay | |
| 14:50 | kados | nengard: descriptions are also in the DB currently |
| 14:50 | nengard | got it |
| 14:52 | Vanzetti | http://pastebin.com/m638b6a26 |
| 14:52 | any idea ? :) | |
| 14:53 | kados | Vanzetti: maybe join #code4lib on freenode and ask there ... or join perl4lib list and ask there |
| 14:54 | Vanzetti | ok |
| 16:06 | hdl | bon apetit |
| 17:02 | mc | ? |
| 17:02 | a 18h ? | |
| 17:02 | vous mangez vachement tot | |
| 17:03 | oopps ... i thought i'm on #koha-fr | |
| 18:17 | gmcharlt | owen: we managed to refrain from talking about you ;-) |
| 18:17 | owen | *whew* |
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