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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 15:54 | owen | wb newlogbot |
| 15:54 | anyone know why the "Dropbox mode" section of returns.tmpl says "fixme" ? | |
| 15:58 | acmoore | I have a patch that needs to make a database change. is there a policy on database version numbers in updatedatabase.pl to prevent me from stepping on the toes of someone else who's making a similar change right now? |
| 15:58 | nengard | question about network printers - can someone give me an example of what to enter in each of the three fields? (printer name, queue, type) ... and where do these come from - do they just match the printer settings on your computer? |
| 15:58 | owen | acmoore, you have to call it, like shotgun |
| 15:58 | gmcharlt | acmoore: I have 074, but won't be able to commit today - why don't you take it |
| 15:59 | acmoore | owen, thanks. Is there a running list of who is sitting where so far? |
| 15:59 | frederic | hello |
| 15:59 | gmcharlt | acmoore: no; so far QA and RM resolve clashes |
| 15:59 | acmoore | gmcharlt, does that goof you up at all? |
| 15:59 | kados | acmoore: yea, I'm fine resolving any conflicts |
| 15:59 | gmcharlt | acmoore: no, easy for me to deal with |
| 15:59 | kados | it's a two line fix generally |
| 15:59 | acmoore | OK. so, I get $DBversion = "3.00.00.074"; |
| 15:59 | kados | I usually edit the patch directly |
| 15:59 | acmoore: go for it | |
| 16:00 | acmoore: I'll test your patch soon as I get it | |
| 16:00 | acmoore | hizzah! |
| 16:03 | cait | hi #koha |
| 16:03 | is it possible to update my koha and get all the nice patches ive seen on the git-page? | |
| 16:05 | kados | cait: yea, you can either download a snapshot, and upgrade, or run in 'dev' mode and rebase every day |
| 16:06 | cait | first: wheres the difference? |
| 16:06 | and second: is there a manual for upgrading somewhere? | |
| 16:06 | i thought i saw one but cant find it now :( | |
| 16:06 | kados | cait: the INSTALL and INSTALL.debian files have some hints |
| 16:09 | cait | aah i deleted them from desktop... *sigh* |
| 16:09 | but i have another question | |
| 16:09 | can i mail my improved geman .po-files to you at the end of the weekend? | |
| 16:11 | i changed a lot and although its not complete i think its really better now than before | |
| 16:16 | ah, instructions for updating found, thanks for the hint :) | |
| 16:24 | kados | cait: yes, please do |
| 16:24 | cait: I will upload it to translate.koha.org | |
| 16:24 | and add it to Koha's git repo to appear in the release | |
| 16:29 | cait | thx kados |
| 16:36 | nengard | question about managing suggestions - i talked to hdl about the updates he made - but one part doesn't do what i'd expect it to do. when on the manage suggestions page if I choose a reason and click the 'mark all with this reason' link nothing happens - i'd expect for all items to be marked with this reason |
| 16:36 | URL: koha/suggestion/acceptorreject.pl?op=aorr_confirm#markall | |
| 16:37 | hdl | nengard: the problem was solved by owen. |
| 16:37 | as far as i know. | |
| 16:37 | owen | Has that patch been approved? |
| 16:37 | nengard | hdl do you know when? i just got a new install today and it still doesn't work |
| 16:38 | ahh - i guess not yet owen | |
| 16:38 | but it's good to know it's coming | |
| 16:41 | kados | nengard: I think that patch should be applied now on your install |
| 16:41 | nengard: give it a shot | |
| 16:41 | nengard | kados++ |
| 16:41 | kados | nengard: we're talking about owen's patch, right? |
| 16:41 | nengard | kados it worked - and yes we are |
| 16:41 | kados | w00t |
| 16:44 | owen: have you seen Frederick's YUI Rich Text editor patch (second one) | |
| 16:45 | owen | No, I haven't |
| 16:45 | kados | - Include a link to YUI SimpleEditor widget. So it's available |
| 16:45 | everywhere in the intranet interface. | |
| 16:45 | - Import locally all required files in yui directory. | |
| 16:45 | - Use YUI SimpleEditor in Koha news editor. | |
| 16:46 | introduces quite a few changes | |
| 16:46 | mostly additional css,png/js files | |
| 16:47 | owen | A link everywhere for YUI editor widget? Does that mean to convert any textarea to a YUI editor? |
| 16:47 | kados | I don't think it's quite that comprehensive |
| 16:47 | the patch was sent to the list, if you get some time later, have a look, let me know what you think | |
| 16:48 | owen | Okay |
| 17:09 | nengard | For managing suggestions - looks like there is a character limit on the title field - this may not be a problem, but i entered a title that got chopped off |
| 17:10 | hdl | kados : frederic is questionning me about the patch workflow. |
| 17:11 | do you have a second ? | |
| 17:11 | kados | hdl: sure do |
| 17:11 | hdl | he sent some patches. |
| 17:11 | including one about GoogleBookSearch | |
| 17:11 | owen | nengard: The field in the database is limited to 80 characters, which I agree isn't big enough. |
| 17:11 | hdl | that he really wants to have included. |
| 17:12 | kados | hdl: I have added it already |
| 17:12 | nengard | owen do you want me to submit a bug or are you just going to fix it when you have time? |
| 17:12 | kados | hdl: bit it is modified from his version, so that you can have google, amazon, or baker and taylor on |
| 17:12 | hdl: he can test by creating a new syspref called GoogleJackets | |
| 17:12 | hdl: and turning it ON | |
| 17:12 | owen | I don't do database modifications, so please file a bug |
| 17:13 | hdl | sure owen : it should be text or longtext. |
| 17:13 | owen | hdl: even 255 characters would probably suffice. |
| 17:14 | Or maybe it's not worth limiting | |
| 17:14 | hdl | You don't know french librarians :D |
| 17:14 | frederic | Could someone clarify how the patch submission process work? Several patches I've submitted hadn't been applies, which is great since it means someone tested them, I suppose, and found a reason not to keep them. But I didn't have any feedback. Recently, I received a reject notification from hdl which help to find a solution. But at several occasions, the patches just disappeared. |
| 17:14 | Aaahh ok for GoogleBook... | |
| 17:15 | hdl | your YUI editor patch is being inquired and tested. |
| 17:15 | frederic | hdl: thanks. I'm reading that. |
| 17:16 | hdl | It seems you could explaine a little bit further : > A link everywhere for YUI editor widget? Does that mean to convert any textarea to a YUI editor? |
| 17:16 | Is there any other patch ? | |
| 17:16 | The one with facets maybe ? | |
| 17:17 | frederic | hdl: yes, GoogleBook (I will take a look on Kados integration) and facets |
| 17:18 | hdl | your facets modification was quite.... a big trouble for me. |
| 17:18 | Modifying all the setup just to have facets in french... quite puzzled me. | |
| 17:19 | I tried to think of an other possibility. | |
| 17:19 | frederic | A link to YUI Editor is added on every pages. To transform a <textarea> into a YUI SimpleEditor, you just have to code a JavaScript line: example in koha-news.tmpl |
| 17:19 | I can open, a server if someone (owen) want to see it in action | |
| 17:20 | owen | Yes, I'd like to see it |
| 17:21 | frederic | hdl: the other advantage of my solution is that you can tansform any field into a facet. Just like you can add a zebra index modifying zebra config files. That the reason why I do with a text config file put in zebra config file directory |
| 17:22 | owen: One minute... I start a server and revert to the appropriate branch | |
| 17:22 | hdl | what about having the facets in the database with their name in the language and a flag that enable facets ? |
| 17:23 | kados | I think we should just put them in the template for translation |
| 17:24 | frederic | kados: This way if you want to add a facet, you will have to modify template rather than a config file |
| 17:29 | owen: try http://lesc.koha.tamil.fr:8080 -- user test, password test | |
| 17:30 | if you look at source code, you will see that css,js and resources files are from Yahoo server. But if you turn yuipath it still works | |
| 17:31 | yui path locally | |
| 17:33 | owen | So when you said "- Include a link to YUI SimpleEditor widget" you mean link to the js source in the global <head> include |
| 17:34 | I thought you meant link as in <a href=""></a> | |
| 17:34 | I would say we need a rich text editor rarely enough that we shouldn't include it globally | |
| 17:34 | hdl | YUi editor is used in News ? |
| 17:35 | at least it should never be used in cataloguing | |
| 17:37 | kados | I think the overhead of loading that library with every page probably isn't worth it overall |
| 17:37 | except on pages where it's used | |
| 17:42 | frederic | yes, it's globally included. This way if you want to add rich text editor anywhere else, you just have to few lines of javascript in a template |
| 17:42 | all those files are cached by web browser, so there isn't any performance issue | |
| 17:42 | Files are only load the first time | |
| 17:43 | owen | Still, there's no reason to include them globally if they're used in only a few places. If someone wants to edit the template to add the editor, they can add anything they need then. |
| 17:46 | frederic | owen: My opinion is the exact contrary for the reason I've given: caching. All references to YUI stuff shoul be put in one place, not manually in every template. Otherwise, you end having multiple references to the same files. |
| 17:47 | owen | frederic: it's just a matter of moving the links to the javascript files from the global include to the top of a couple of templates |
| 17:47 | There's no duplication | |
| 17:48 | frederic | owen: ok. As you want. " C |
| 17:49 | "Include a link to YUI SimpleEditor widget" means adding those lines of JS: | |
| 17:49 | var editor = new YAHOO.widget.SimpleEditor('... | |
| 17:50 | etc. about 8 lines | |
| 17:51 | And with your method, adding two lines to reference simpleeditor.css and simpleditor-beta-min.js | |
| 17:51 | hdl | frederic: i donot think there is any caching on pages at the moment. |
| 17:51 | iirc, there is a cache parameter set to 0 on every page. | |
| 17:52 | frederic | hdl: caching is done automatically by web browser for static resources: css, js, images, etc. |
| 17:52 | hdl | is it done when cache is set to 0 ? |
| 17:53 | frederic | hdl: good question? |
| 17:53 | owen | hdl, what do you mean there is a cache parameter set to 0 on every page? |
| 17:54 | You mean the HTTP headers? | |
| 17:54 | frederic | For me, static files are cached in Firefox. I just verified with Firebug |
| 17:56 | hdl | sub output_html_with_http_headers ($$$) { |
| 17:56 | my($query, $cookie, $html) = @_; | |
| 17:56 | print $query->header( | |
| 17:56 | -type => 'text/html', | |
| 17:56 | -charset => 'UTF-8', | |
| 17:56 | -cookie => $cookie, | |
| 17:56 | -Pragma => 'no-cache', | |
| 17:56 | -'Cache-Control' => 'no-cache', | |
| 17:56 | ||
| 17:56 | cait | kados: i managed to update koha, thx again |
| 17:57 | kados | hdl: that is just for pages, not for external content |
| 17:57 | hdl: the cache settings for things like images, js, etc., is controlled by your apache settings | |
| 17:59 | hdl | oh. |
| 17:59 | i note that$ | |
| 18:01 | frederic | yes, cache-control Apache directive how static resources must be cached by client web browser. I suppose Yahoo cache its contents appropriatly (its interest) |
| 18:57 | tim | When I click on a series in opac-detail.pl in koha3, I get no results. |
| 18:58 | koha-opac-error_log shows opac-search.pl: WARNING: query problem with series=Pendragon ZOOM error 10014 "CCL parsing error" (addinfo: "Unknown qualifier") from diag-set 'ZOOM' at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Search.pm line 382., referer: http://192.168.1.4/cgi-bin/koh[…]=series:Pendragon | |
| 19:00 | kados | tim: that looks like a potential bug |
| 19:00 | tim: can you try editing the template and changing series to se | |
| 19:00 | so the link becomes http://192.168.1.4/cgi-bin/koh[…]pl?q=se:Pendragon | |
| 19:00 | (or just try that search directly | |
| 19:01 | tim | That worked. |
| 19:01 | I just tried the search directly. | |
| 19:02 | kados | tim: wanna submit a patch? :-) |
| 19:02 | tim: I'll walk you through the process if you have the time | |
| 19:03 | tim: and your name will go up in lights :-) | |
| 19:03 | owen | Or: I'm editing opac-detail right now, I can make the change |
| 19:03 | (not that I want to steal tim's potential fame!) | |
| 19:03 | kados | hehe |
| 19:04 | owen: go ahead, tim and I can find something else if he's interested | |
| 19:05 | tim | I should've asked this earlier. I'd like to know how to do that, but the school gets out early today and any minute I'm gonna be up to my ears in kids. |
| 19:06 | kados | tim: no worries ... when you're available let me know |
| 19:06 | tim: we also have a pretty detailed wiki page on the topic | |
| 19:06 | tim: http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]lopment:git_usage | |
| 19:07 | tim | I'll bookmark that. |
| 20:52 | mc | good night koha people |
| 10:30 | hdl | gmcharlt_: kados ? |
| 11:47 | hi nengard | |
| 11:47 | !list | |
| 11:47 | nengard | hiya hdl |
| 11:47 | hdl | how are you ? |
| 11:48 | nengard | doing okay |
| 11:49 | you? |
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