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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 12:02 | gmcharlt | greetings #koha |
| 12:34 | kados | g'morning owen, ccatalfo |
| 12:34 | owen | Hi |
| 12:35 | Thanks for the help with the issuing rules, kados | |
| 12:35 | kados | np, sorry I didn't get to it sooner |
| 12:35 | owen | we don't have any method in 3.0 for showing circ limits, do we? |
| 12:36 | Obviously there needs to be a more flexible way to set it up | |
| 12:37 | ccatalfo | morning #koha |
| 12:40 | kados | owen: you mean to display on the circ page on the staff client like NPL has? |
| 12:40 | hdl | hi #koha |
| 12:40 | kados | yea, we don't have that in 3.0, it's an easy add, but we do need it to be more flexible |
| 12:40 | hey hdl | |
| 12:40 | owen | Yeah. I know NPL is going to want to have that in 3.0, but as we found out, they don't want /all/ item types displayed |
| 12:40 | kados | *nod* |
| 12:59 | yay | |
| 13:00 | hdl | congrats kados |
| 13:00 | (I've just seen Movers & shakers) | |
| 13:08 | kados : some person have problems entering items with no barcode because barcode is NOT NULL + there is an index. Is there a way to allow this ? | |
| 13:08 | kados | hdl: why is barcode NOT NULL? |
| 13:11 | hdl | kados : I checked kohastructure.pl and it can be NULL. |
| 13:11 | OK. | |
| 13:12 | kados | hdl: maybe a prob with updatedatabase? |
| 13:12 | hdl | well may be. |
| 14:01 | gmcharlt | hi everybody, I'd like to introduce a new LibLimer |
| 14:01 | acmoore is Andrew Moore, our newest developer | |
| 14:01 | acmoore | Hi all! |
| 14:01 | Thanks, Galen. | |
| 14:02 | owen | Hi Andrew, welcome |
| 14:02 | kados, is the AmazonAssocTag preference still required? | |
| 14:03 | kados | owen: yes, i think so |
| 14:03 | acmoore: welcome! | |
| 14:05 | owen: it's possible they don't require it in ESC 4.0, I haven't tested | |
| 14:06 | owen | Doesn't look like it's necessary |
| 14:16 | nengard | owen & kados - does this mean i should remove the note i had in the manual saying it was required? |
| 14:16 | kados | nengard: yea, I'd say it's optional I guess |
| 14:17 | it used to be mandatory :-) | |
| 14:17 | nengard | okey dokey - will do kados |
| 14:19 | kados | hdl: just noticed that the online help only works in firefox, not safari or IE |
| 14:19 | hdl | hi acmoore |
| 14:20 | kados | hdl: are you experiencing the same thing? |
| 14:20 | hdl | I donot have any safari or IE to test. |
| 14:21 | But that seems strange. | |
| 14:21 | kados | any other browsers? |
| 14:21 | hdl | Is this because of window name ? |
| 14:21 | Opera | |
| 14:21 | kados | very strange |
| 14:23 | atz | possibly because the perl script that responds sends unclean headers, then redirect |
| 14:24 | that is very strange... I'll try to test that w/ IE in VM | |
| 14:24 | hdl | online help works in Opera. |
| 14:27 | fbcit | g'morning all |
| 14:28 | nengard | hdl: i'm writing the manual and have a question about the opac cloud |
| 14:28 | do i need my system to re-idnex for the opac cloud to work? if not, then it's not working - and i have another bug to report :( | |
| 14:28 | kados | hey fbcit |
| 14:28 | nengard: there might already be a bug for that one | |
| 14:28 | nengard | kados: i'll search |
| 14:29 | owen | I can confirm online help isn't working with IE6 |
| 14:29 | kados | it should probably be OFF by default, as it's an 'experimental' feature |
| 14:31 | nengard | kados: shouldn't we have something like that display in the preference so people know that it's experimental? I'll note it as such in the manual |
| 14:33 | kados | yea, we should |
| 14:33 | ooh, nengard, looks like you just threw a 500 error | |
| 14:33 | nengard | yes |
| 14:33 | kados | nengard: how'd you manage that? |
| 14:33 | hdl | yes. |
| 14:33 | nengard | was about to put a bug in for it |
| 14:33 | hehe | |
| 14:34 | clicked on browse by subject and clicked submit | |
| 14:34 | kados | ahh, yea, that'd do it |
| 14:34 | browse by subject and subject cloud don't work | |
| 14:34 | nengard | hdl & kados the note has been added to the manual |
| 14:34 | kados | they're experimental :-) |
| 14:34 | nengard | kados: i'll add a note about that too |
| 14:34 | kados | I'll disable them by default |
| 14:35 | hdl | nengard: one has to launch buildopaccloud before it can be used. |
| 14:35 | kados | hdl: do you have a working link you can show? |
| 14:36 | hdl | http://o15.bureau.paulpoulain.[…]c-tags_subject.pl |
| 14:36 | nengard | kados - in my system the OpacBrowser is set to OFF - why did the link show up at all? |
| 14:36 | hdl | for tag could |
| 14:37 | kados | nengard: good question! |
| 14:37 | nengard | glad you thinkn so :) |
| 14:39 | kados | hdl: most of the links I click on don't work in that example |
| 14:39 | hdl: http://o15.bureau.paulpoulain.[…]ct.pl?number=1000 | |
| 14:39 | hdl: the largest ones in fact | |
| 14:40 | hdl | maybe zebra is not running there. |
| 14:46 | nengard: According to what I see in opac-main.tmpl there is no reason why Browser would apper if opacBrowser is set to OFF. | |
| 14:47 | nengard | hdl: I see these links under my search box: Advanced Search | Browse by Subject | Most Popular |
| 14:47 | and my setting for cloud and browser are set to OFF | |
| 14:47 | hdl | nengard: unless there is a problem with TMPL_IF that could have been added after. |
| 14:48 | Subject is to search on authorities. | |
| 14:48 | Nothing to do with OpacBrowser. | |
| 14:48 | kados | nengard: you don't have authorities set up |
| 14:49 | nengard: well, they are installed, but you don't have any loaded | |
| 14:51 | hdl: also, the "Most Popular" link is dog dog slow | |
| 14:51 | nengard | kados - so opacbrowser is something different! okay!! Now - i have to load some authorities ;) how do I do that |
| 14:51 | kados | hdl: is it slow for you too? |
| 14:52 | nengard: you can catalog some :-) | |
| 14:52 | nengard: or ... I can load some | |
| 14:52 | but that's a command-line operation atm | |
| 14:52 | nengard | kados - i like the load idea :) it's quicker and i can write more of the manual that way :) |
| 14:52 | kados | hehe |
| 14:52 | OK, I'll put it on my list | |
| 14:53 | nengard | otherwise it may take me all day to catalog them :) hehe |
| 14:53 | kados | heh |
| 14:53 | atz | lol... the idea of actually cataloging as a fix |
| 14:53 | i hadn't even considered it :) | |
| 14:54 | kados | heh |
| 14:54 | hdl | kados : most popular link shows only search page for me : still the shelves problem. |
| 14:54 | kados | it's a real bummer that of the links that show up on the OPAC, only Advanced Search works without any admin overhead |
| 14:55 | hdl: http://opacdemo.koha.org/cgi-b[…]opac-topissues.pl | |
| 14:55 | hdl: it works for me, but it's slow if you ahve a lot of items | |
| 14:56 | hdl | I have answers in less than 2 secs. |
| 14:56 | If you find it dog dog slow, .... | |
| 14:56 | kados | no, that db is only 500 records |
| 14:57 | if you increase it to say, 5000, or 50,000, it gets quite slow | |
| 14:57 | nengard | kados: should we have a better error page than the 500 error if people don't have authorities loaded? |
| 14:57 | kados | nengard: for manual purposes, you can try my demo |
| 14:58 | http://opacdemo.koha.org | |
| 14:58 | nengard: the subject 'browse' (really a search) works | |
| 14:58 | nengard | cool |
| 14:58 | kados | nengard: yea, there's already a bug for that one |
| 14:58 | nengard | thanks |
| 14:58 | kados | I guess it's a question of how easy do we need to make it work 'out of the box' |
| 14:58 | hdl | we could disable Subject browse when no authority is loaded. |
| 14:59 | kados | hdl: good idea ... we used to have a syspref to disable it, right? |
| 15:00 | hdl | so many things we "used to have"... time goes by.. things change. |
| 15:02 | getshelves is using userenv to get shelves. | |
| 15:02 | When one is not loged at OPAC : there is a problem. | |
| 15:05 | fbcit | kados: any thoughts on why after resolving a rebase conflict I am ending up with one remaining patch which has already been pushed to the main repo? |
| 15:05 | hdl | nengard: what is VALENJ ? |
| 15:06 | kados | fbcit: hmmm, I've seen that before |
| 15:06 | atz | fbcit: maybe that patch was reverted? |
| 15:06 | (the simplest, most logical answer) | |
| 15:06 | fbcit | actually it is only a piece of the original |
| 15:06 | kados | yea, time for a fresh clone ;-), or else track it down on #git :-) |
| 15:06 | fbcit | the real question is how to get rid of it w/o destroying hours of work |
| 15:06 | kados | ahh |
| 15:06 | atz | gitweb back up, right? |
| 15:06 | kados | you have work in there |
| 15:06 | atz: correct | |
| 15:07 | fbcit | to the tune of 10-15 hours maybe... :-( |
| 15:07 | nengard | hdl: meeting time for me it's a consortium for libraries in NJ |
| 15:07 | atz | when i got merges crossed or conflicting... I just copied out whatever I was working on to a backup dir |
| 15:07 | kados | fbcit: well, that stray patch shouldn't hurt anything |
| 15:07 | fbcit | atz what is gitweb backup? |
| 15:07 | kados | fbcit: it will most likely just tell me that it's already been applied |
| 15:07 | atz | fbcit: gitweb was down |
| 15:08 | fbcit: now it's "back up" | |
| 15:08 | fbcit | heh |
| 15:08 | kados | the whole git environment moved servers last week, but I didn't push any changes to the new env until the DNS had propogated |
| 15:09 | fbcit | kados: I'll send it to you and see |
| 15:09 | it's really a one-liner | |
| 15:09 | kados | k |
| 15:09 | fbcit | kados: you should have it |
| 15:11 | atz: maybe I could copy the entire branch elsewhere, get a new clone, and then copy the branch back over the new clone? | |
| 15:11 | atz | yeah, i never worked on that scale... |
| 15:11 | at most 10 uncommitted files or so | |
| 15:12 | fbcit | all changes are committed locally |
| 15:12 | ahh | |
| 15:12 | maybe I can simply apply my patches over a new clone... | |
| 15:12 | kados | fbcit: it wasn't committed on my tree |
| 15:12 | fbcit: and it applied fine | |
| 15:12 | fbcit | hrmm |
| 15:12 | kados | fbcit: shall I push it up? |
| 15:13 | fbcit | http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gi[…]2e362b116835fc02b |
| 15:13 | seems to be there? | |
| 15:13 | kados | so it does |
| 15:14 | fbcit | those patches were submitted via gmcharlt |
| 15:15 | the line numbers in the repo diff and the patch I currently have are different | |
| 15:15 | kados | fbcit: I just pushed it up again, see what happens when you rebase |
| 15:15 | fbcit | k |
| 15:16 | fixed | |
| 15:16 | kados++ | |
| 15:17 | kados | fbcit++ # for having 10 hours of work you're about to send my way :-=) |
| 15:17 | fbcit | heh |
| 15:17 | I can forward it now, but it is not entirely finished yet | |
| 15:17 | atz | so kados, you got the Amazon code up to current API? |
| 15:17 | fbcit | nothing breaks, just the new stuff doesn't work all the way |
| 15:18 | kados | hehe |
| 15:18 | it's listed twice now | |
| 15:18 | fbcit: can you check your kohastructure.sql? | |
| 15:18 | fbcit: and verify that copynumber is listed twice? | |
| 15:18 | in the deleteditems table | |
| 15:19 | fbcit | yep... |
| 15:19 | it should only appear before the marc longblob | |
| 15:20 | kados | I ahve it both before and after |
| 15:20 | fbcit | I'll send a patch to remove the second instance |
| 15:20 | kados | sweet |
| 15:22 | fbcit | see if that fixes it |
| 15:22 | gmcharlt | oops - sorry for missing that |
| 15:23 | kados | so long as no-one installed KOha from a 5-minute-ago snapshot we're OK :-) |
| 15:23 | fbcit: pushed | |
| 15:27 | fbcit | kados:things look fine now |
| 15:27 | tnx for the help | |
| 15:27 | atz too | |
| 15:28 | kados: I'll forward the first part of this work later today | |
| 15:28 | kados | fbcit++ |
| 15:29 | gmcharlt | welcome bchurch, bb_marblehead |
| 15:33 | kados | fbcit: any teasers on what it is? :-) |
| 15:33 | fbcit | I'm just adding the ability to generate patron cards from w/in koha |
| 15:34 | kados | oh, cool |
| 15:34 | fbcit | I'm hoping to include an option to add patron pics to the cards as well |
| 15:34 | kados | hehe |
| 15:34 | fbcit: are you using the current label stuff as a starting poing? | |
| 15:34 | point I mean | |
| 15:35 | fbcit | yes |
| 15:35 | although there is much existing code that needs work | |
| 15:36 | kados | amen there! |
| 15:36 | that db design needs a complete makeover | |
| 15:36 | fbcit | for now, I'm simply reusing what's there |
| 15:36 | in the interest of time | |
| 15:37 | kados | yea, IKWYM |
| 15:39 | fbcit | I want to throw out the label search stuff completely |
| 15:40 | or maybe I should say the label-item-search stuff | |
| 15:40 | kados | hehe |
| 15:40 | yea, I have that on my list, a generic item search API | |
| 15:41 | we need it in several places | |
| 15:41 | fbcit | that along with a generic patron search API |
| 15:41 | kados | labels, call number browsin |
| 15:41 | fbcit | yea, search is really the core around which Koha revolves |
| 15:44 | atz | fbcit: agreed |
| 15:45 | though w/ biblios integrated, certain catalog staff might think differently | |
| 15:48 | kados | heh |
| 15:48 | and I'm sure circ staff would disagree too :-) | |
| 15:54 | atz | kados: to confirm, you updated C4::Amazon to current API already? |
| 15:54 | kados | atz: yes |
| 15:54 | atz: in 3.0, this weekend | |
| 15:55 | atz | cool... that's one change we should consider back-porting |
| 15:55 | kados | atz: agreed |
| 15:55 | atz | otherwise that's all the list will talk about for a month |
| 15:55 | kados | yea |
| 15:57 | well it goes something like this: replace Amazon.pm, add any other modules and back-port any api changes (shouldn't be any of those), and copy/paste the stuff in opac-detail.pl, detail.pl, opac-detail.tmpl, detail.tmpl into the rel_2_2 ones | |
| 15:57 | with testing maybe an hour or two task | |
| 16:24 | epederstuen | I am new to using Koha but had a problem during the install where it does not look like all of the database tables were created. Is there a way to re-create the koha database structure without re-installing everything? |
| 16:52 | gmcharlt | epederstuen: are you running version 3? if so, you can drop the existing tables, then run the web installer again |
| 17:09 | nengard | hello all - on the OPAC menu for general preferences which logo is being used - and if it's both where is each on being used - there is opaclargeimage and opacsmallimage |
| 17:18 | owen | opaclargeimage is out of date. Only opacsmallimage is in use |
| 17:41 | owen-away | kados? |
| 18:10 | nengard | another pref question - for OpacPasswordChange it says: If ON, enables patron-initiated password change in OPAC (disable it when using LDAP auth)" - where do I send the user to see if they're using LDAP auth? |
| 18:10 | kados | nengard: they would have to ask their systems administrator |
| 18:11 | the answer is almost universally NO | |
| 18:11 | nengard | thanks kados |
| 18:11 | kados | LDAP is a remote authenitcation service, so they'd probably know if they were using it |
| 18:11 | nengard | ahhh |
| 18:11 | got it | |
| 18:15 | fbcit | is there a way to have vim locate matching HTML tags? |
| 18:19 | kados | fbcit: perhaps ... I found this: |
| 18:19 | http://www.linux.com/articles/62139 | |
| 18:19 | Close HTML and XML tags automatically | |
| 18:19 | not quite the same thing | |
| 18:21 | fbcit | cool |
| 18:24 | nengard | hmmm - when logged in as one patron, I'm seeing purchse suggestions by other patrons in my personlized opac display - this is a bug right?? |
| 18:26 | hmmm - wait - it says I can see purchase suggestions for just me or for anyone - this might be a security issue - dont' you think - or better yet, a privacy issue | |
| 18:32 | kados | nengard: there should be a syspref for that IIRC |
| 18:32 | nengard | IIRC? |
| 18:32 | kados | nengard: OPACViewOthersSuggestions |
| 18:32 | nengard | ahhh |
| 18:32 | thanks | |
| 18:32 | kados | IIRC = If I Recall Correctly |
| 18:32 | nengard | I'll make sure to note that |
| 18:33 | kados | this is why profiling is so important for libraries |
| 18:33 | every library has a different set of assumptions about what the defaults should be | |
| 18:33 | they need someone to walk tthem through the options | |
| 18:34 | nengard | :) it's okay - and i totally agree |
| 18:34 | owen | Hmmm... So if OPACViewOthersSuggestions is on there should be a global nav link for Suggestions. If OPACViewOthersSuggestions is off we can leave the suggestions link in the user-specific menu. |
| 18:36 | kados | owen: yea |
| 18:37 | and I guess those belong in the Acquisitions tab too | |
| 18:38 | so nengard ... the AnonSuggestions syspref is a classic example of the sysprefs not making sense to people | |
| 18:38 | it says 'Set to anonymous borrowernumber to enable Anonymous suggestions' | |
| 18:39 | nengard | right- which i don't get |
| 18:39 | kados | what could be improved in that sentence to make it clear what the purpose of it is? |
| 18:39 | is it unclear what an anonomous suggestion would be? | |
| 18:41 | nengard | In that sentence ... Enter borrower number 'X' to allow anonymous purchace suggestions |
| 18:41 | i know what an anonymous suggestion is | |
| 18:41 | i just have no idea what value to enter for the anonymous borrowernumber | |
| 18:41 | kados | ahh |
| 18:41 | I guess it assumes the user knows there's a field called borrowernumber | |
| 18:43 | nengard | field where? a system preference field? a patron field? |
| 18:43 | that's my problem | |
| 18:44 | PS my OPACViewOthersSuggestions is set to OFF - and yet I see them in my OPAC.... | |
| 18:45 | kados | nengard: bug it ;-) |
| 18:45 | nengard | will do |
| 18:45 | kados: so where is that field? | |
| 18:45 | kados | nengard: borrowers table |
| 18:45 | nengard | where is that field from the user's perspective? |
| 18:46 | where can they see what number to enter? | |
| 18:46 | kados | yea, it used to show up, but we've hidden it I see |
| 18:47 | you can see it in links | |
| 18:47 | like the 'details' tab has a borrowernumber=? | |
| 18:47 | where ? is the borrower number | |
| 18:47 | it should be listed in the Library use section of the patron detail page | |
| 18:47 | that's another bug :-) | |
| 18:47 | nengard | sorry if i'm being daft - but how does that help a user setting up this feature? |
| 18:47 | OH!!! | |
| 18:47 | Thanks :) | |
| 18:47 | will report it | |
| 18:50 | owen | nengard, I'll fix it right now |
| 18:50 | kados, would you have it be labelled "borrowernumber" ? | |
| 18:51 | kados | probably I'd called Patron ID |
| 18:52 | too many past tenses in that sentence | |
| 18:52 | owen | ...and update the syspref text to match? |
| 18:52 | nengard | owen: bug #1944 |
| 18:53 | and thanks :) | |
| 18:53 | owen | Good for my bug-fixing stats :) |
| 18:53 | nengard | hehe |
| 18:53 | hey i have tons of bugs you can solve if you want to up your stats ;) hehe | |
| 18:53 | kados | owen: yea, that'd be ideal |
| 18:55 | owen | kados: I don't know what all needs to be changed to update the system pref. I'm going to update the bug and assign to you. |
| 18:58 | nengard | "Text to display as the link anchor in the OPAC" -- HUH? what the heck does that mean? |
| 18:58 | you guys need an English major to write these blurbs :) hehe | |
| 19:00 | owen | You take what you can get...and we can't always get an English /speaker/! |
| 19:00 | nengard | i guess that's true ;) |
| 19:01 | owen | That said, I don't know what that pref is for either. |
| 19:01 | nengard | but the English is okay in that - it just doesn't make sense to me - the average person |
| 19:01 | owen: hehe - it's URLLinkText | |
| 19:03 | owen | I can only find reference to that string in updatedatabase.pl. Sounds like it's out of date, or not forward-ported to 3.0 yet? |
| 19:03 | A question for koha-devel I think | |
| 19:04 | kados, if I want to add more similar items to my catalog for testing that feature, should I be looking at LibraryThing's data? | |
| 19:05 | kados | owen: you can add a warn in the script |
| 19:06 | line 193 of opac-detail.pl (inside the for loop) | |
| 19:06 | use Data::Dumper; warn Dumper($similar_product); | |
| 19:06 | add that inside the loop and you should see some decent data on every page load | |
| 19:07 | nengard | owen: sent to the list |
| 19:07 | ryan | URLLinkText should be the link text in the <a> tags in an 856 link. |
| 19:07 | nengard | oh!!! |
| 19:07 | ryan | it is needed for long urls which will break page layout |
| 19:07 | nengard | guess I didn't need to send the email - thanks ryan |
| 19:08 | owen | ryan, is that feature implemented? |
| 19:08 | nengard | good catalogers should enter a subfield 3 to solve that problem - but good idea :) |
| 19:08 | owen | kados: is that only Amazon's similar items data? |
| 19:08 | ryan | owen, i thought it was |
| 19:08 | kados | owen: yea |
| 19:09 | owen | Kados: I'm still getting similar and editions mixed up, sorry |
| 19:09 | kados | nengard: but not all of them do enter the subfield 3 |
| 19:09 | owen: :-) | |
| 19:09 | owen: yea, theya re actually very different | |
| 19:09 | nengard | kados - i always did :) hehe |
| 19:09 | and that's why i said it was a good idea to have that field - because so many don't | |
| 19:09 | kados | owen: similar items is more 'related' whereas editions is 'other versions of the same thing' |
| 19:10 | nengard: *nod* | |
| 19:10 | owen | kados: I understand the difference as long as I'm paying attention |
| 19:11 | ryan | owen: looks like it was unimplemented |
| 19:11 | kados | owen: they were introduced at nearly the same time, so I can see why you'd get them conflated ... especially since they're both kinda hard to test without good data :-) |
| 19:12 | nengard | kados and ryan if subfield 3 is entered will that preference override it? |
| 19:13 | ryan | nengard: no, the syspref should only appear if there's no subf 3 |
| 19:13 | and if it's not a TOC | |
| 19:13 | nengard | rayn - awesome! |
| 19:13 | ryan i should say | |
| 19:13 | kados | ryan: so we need to forward-port that from dev_week? |
| 19:14 | nengard | owen: i'm not sure it's in 3.0 cause my full URL is showing here: http://opac-nce.dev.kohalibrar[…]?biblionumber=721 |
| 19:15 | kados is that a bug? | |
| 19:15 | kados | nengard: it's an item that needs to be done, so yea, I'd say so |
| 19:15 | ryan | nengard: yes, it seems to be missing |
| 19:16 | nengard | thanks guys |
| 19:19 | bug #1945 submitted - taking off now - ttyl | |
| 19:27 | owen | I'm not seeing anything listed on admin/z3950servers.pl |
| 19:28 | z3950servers.pl: DBD::mysql::st fetchrow_hashref failed: fetch() without execute() at /home/oleonard/koha/production/intranet/cgi-bin/admin/z3950servers.pl line 37. | |
| 19:30 | Hm, I guess that's bug 1789. | |
| 19:30 | kados | huh, that's weird |
| 19:31 | fbcit | owen: works fine here |
| 19:31 | owen | fbcit, are you able to add a new z39.50 server? |
| 19:31 | kados | works for me too |
| 19:32 | fbcit | owen: yes |
| 19:32 | owen | Weird, could it be a problem with my database? |
| 19:34 | fbcit | perhaps if there are no z3950 servers loaded in your db to start with?? |
| 19:35 | owen | There are |
| 19:36 | kados | anyone wanna test webhuddle with me? |
| 19:36 | owen | Whassat? |
| 19:36 | kados | it's an oss webinar thingy |
| 19:36 | fbcit | owen: it looks like it has to do with a template param 'searchfield' |
| 19:36 | kados | owen: https://www.webhuddle.com/j.do[…]0948c03&mID=26876 |
| 19:36 | owen: let me know if you can see my screen | |
| 19:37 | fbcit | hehe |
| 19:37 | kados | or anyone really |
| 19:37 | fbcit | cool |
| 19:37 | kados | does it work? |
| 19:37 | hehe | |
| 19:37 | cool | |
| 19:38 | owen: making you moderator | |
| 19:38 | yea, this is soo easy to use | |
| 19:38 | compared to say, webex | |
| 19:39 | owen | Are y'all seeing my desktop now? |
| 19:39 | kados | cool, I can see owen's screen :-0 |
| 19:39 | fbcit | windows |
| 19:39 | owen | Exciting. |
| 19:39 | kados | hehe |
| 19:39 | very cool | |
| 19:40 | I think it's OSS too | |
| 19:40 | yea, it's on sourceforge | |
| 23:29 | atz | why is the ISBN returned by C4::Search actually an a contaminated string |
| 23:29 | ? | |
| 23:29 | like: 0807737143 (cloth : alk. paper) | 0807737135 (pbk. : alk. paper) | |
| 23:31 | i guess b/c it is expected to be displayed, and not used... and hit maps to potentially many ISBNs | |
| 00:15 | kados | atz: yea that's the problem with AACR2 |
| 00:16 | atz: galen was gonna work on a generic C4::Normalize | |
| 00:17 | atz: but other priorities have crept in :-) | |
| 00:17 | atz | yeah, i hacked out a regexp to recognize the first isbn in the string, but that's sooo chintzy |
| 00:26 | i see in the rather near future that we will be using js to get image, because we can fail over (and over) w/o doing any connections w/ the server | |
| 00:27 | so we can start w/ the amazon image, fail to google image, optionally fail back to B&T, syndetics, etc. | |
| 00:27 | kados | yea |
| 00:27 | you working on google image? | |
| 00:28 | the long-term failover if there's no available image is a css overlay on a generic book image | |
| 00:28 | css over lay of the title :-) | |
| 00:28 | atz | not yet, but I have made myself conversant on the backend code... some ppl on list have already implemented google as a substitute for amazon |
| 00:28 | kados | on ablank book image |
| 00:29 | atz | but i'm looking at potentially multiple sources per image |
| 00:29 | yeah, the CSS move would be nice | |
| 00:29 | not everything will have images | |
| 00:30 | ok, got B&T on hit list and detail | |
| 00:35 | kados | sweet |
| 00:35 | got a link? | |
| 00:36 | atz | http://atz.dev.kohalibrary.com[…]murder&limit=MAIN |
| 00:36 | kados | oh, tagging too, eh? |
| 00:37 | atz | indeed... not 100% yet, but most of the front and back end are there |
| 00:37 | need to dress it up w/ some jquery xhtml, so you don't have to even leave the page | |
| 00:38 | i think I'll set up the sysprefs to default TagInputOnList=OFF | |
| 00:39 | just to keep it clean | |
| 00:39 | TagInputOnDetail=On | |
| 00:40 | kados | cool |
| 00:41 | atz | the other complexity will be building the moderation interface on the staff side |
| 00:41 | I should say that I'm using Lingua::Ispell (optionally, but preferred) | |
| 00:42 | as a built-in whitelist | |
| 00:43 | a level of polish would be to have one of you zebra pros index the tags and make them searchable that way | |
| 00:44 | kados | cool |
| 00:44 | yea, that'd be pretty trivial I think | |
| 00:46 | atz: got a sec for a Vshelves uestion? | |
| 00:46 | question I mean | |
| 00:47 | atz | sure |
| 00:47 | kados | I'm trying to figure out how to add the imageurl variable to opac-shelves.pl |
| 00:47 | atz | zebra stuff might be easy... once you know how. |
| 00:47 | kados | the new convention is: |
| 00:47 | <img src="<!-- TMPL_VAR NAME="imageurl" -->" alt="<!-- TMPL_VAR NAME="description" -->" title="<!-- TMPL_VAR NAME="description" -->" /> | |
| 00:47 | instead of linking to a specific .git | |
| 00:47 | gif I mean | |
| 00:47 | :-) | |
| 00:48 | but I don't see how that list is being created | |
| 00:48 | it looks like opac-shelves.pl is mostly a placeholder | |
| 00:48 | whith the heavy lifting being done in the modules | |
| 00:48 | atz | ah yes.. |
| 00:48 | C4::VirtualShelves/Page.pm | |
| 00:48 | C4/VirtualShelves/Page.pm | |
| 00:48 | kados | yep |
| 00:49 | but I don't even see a call to GetBiblio or anything | |
| 00:49 | or is it GetBibliofromItemNumber | |
| 00:49 | is vshelves a list of items or biblios? | |
| 00:49 | atz | yeah, GetBiblioFromItemNumber |
| 00:49 | kados | (I guess it should be both long-term, depending on it's purpose) |
| 00:50 | (if we use this sas the general purpose container for bulk updates, etc) | |
| 00:50 | atz | vshelves is biblios, never items |
| 00:50 | kados | k |
| 00:50 | so where would I add imageurl? | |
| 00:50 | should it just go in GetBibliofromItemNumber | |
| 00:51 | and if it's a list of biblios, why do we have an itemnumber? | |
| 00:53 | atz | on the staff side, librarians expect to make the list by scanning books |
| 00:53 | in addition to searching | |
| 00:53 | so that's why you have a barcode | |
| 00:54 | kados | *nod* |
| 00:54 | ok, so any thoughts on where best to insert this imageurl? | |
| 00:55 | atz | not really |
| 00:55 | i'm not sure where it comes from in all cases | |
| 00:55 | does it map at the biblio level, bilioitems level? | |
| 00:56 | w/ some syspref about what (local or remote) directory the gifs are supposed to live in? | |
| 00:56 | kados | in this case it's biblioitems level |
| 00:56 | yea, don't worry about where imageurl is built from, that part's done, I just need to know where in Vshelves code I can insert it into biblioitems hash | |
| 00:58 | atz | GetShelfContents, probably |
| 00:58 | (or just after that call, line 141) | |
| 00:58 | in Page.pm | |
| 00:59 | since this is really an aspect of the page, and not the back end, Page.pm makes the most sense | |
| 00:59 | and will affect both opac and intranet there | |
| 01:00 | kados | cool |
| 01:00 | Ill inspect $items to see the format | |
| 01:05 | cool, that worked, thanks | |
| 01:15 | atz: any comment on bug 1873? | |
| 01:41 | atz | kados: this appears to a problem with the DB constraint definition |
| 01:42 | the field dateadded is of type=timestamp | |
| 01:42 | but it isn't updating | |
| 01:48 | ryan | /Users/ryan/Library/Application\ Support/xPad/Temp/ISLC\ Reinstall.txt |
| 01:48 | oops | |
| 01:48 | C-c C-v error | |
| 01:53 | atz | kados: updated bug |
| 01:56 | updated updated... heh |
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