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13:09 | paul | hello world. you already know it probably, but all koha.org sites are unreachable... |
13:10 | gmcharlt-away | paul: yes -- kados is working on fixing DNS for koha.org -- service currently using went down, apparently |
13:14 | paul | gmcharlt-away: thx |
13:15 | gmcharlt | martinmorris: I've been working on authorities -- how recent is your Koha 3 install package -- is it the alpha tarball or from a recent git pull? |
13:18 | kados | zoneedit-- |
13:51 | mornin #koha | |
13:51 | paul | hello kados |
13:51 | hdl | hi kados. |
13:51 | kados | update on DNS probs: I have purchased a for-pay service from aplus.net and transfered the zonefile there for koha.org |
13:51 | toins | hi kados |
13:52 | kados | apologies for the outage :/ |
13:54 | sorosj | hi |
13:55 | paul | I introduce sorosj: he's a developer that apply to work for BibLibre (as we are recruiting ;-) ), and he is recommended by toins. I met him tomorrow morning. |
13:56 | s/met/meet/ | |
13:56 | kados | hi sorosj , welcome to #koha |
13:57 | sorosj | thanks |
13:57 | paul | sorosj: kados is the boss of LibLime the US company working on Koha. his true name is Joshua. |
13:57 | kados | s/the boss/one of the bosses/ :-) |
13:58 | paul | I always forget that LL has some Presidents and Vice-President |
13:58 | (in french companies, President is always a single person) | |
13:58 | kados | VP aren't always bosses either |
13:58 | paul | (it's "directeur" that can be a title shared by some ppl) |
13:59 | french "président" = something like CEO for you I think | |
14:00 | owen | Hi paul, kados, sorosj |
14:00 | paul | hi owen |
14:00 | sorosj | hey owen |
14:00 | paul | sorosj: owen is our graphic designer, from NPL, Nelsonville Public Library |
14:01 | sorosj | nice to meet y'all |
14:05 | owen | Shoot, I guess no Bugzilla today then? |
14:05 | nengard | hi all |
14:06 | owen: I was supposed to look out for you for some reason ... goes back to notes to check | |
14:06 | owen | Hi nengard, welcome to the world of Koha |
14:07 | Are you back home after your Liblime initiation? | |
14:07 | nengard | yes |
14:07 | and still sick | |
14:07 | :( | |
14:07 | owen | Yeah, seems like just about everyone is |
14:07 | nengard | i know |
14:08 | it's a shame | |
14:08 | paul | hello nengard/Nicole & welcome on this international chat |
14:09 | (welcome from "French koha-team") | |
14:10 | nengard | thanks paul!!! I've heard all of your names before - so nice to "meet" everyone |
14:10 | paul | hdl is around I think. |
14:10 | hdl | yes I am |
14:11 | paul | if you want to see a photo from us to really "see" who we are : http://www.biblibre.com/node/9 |
14:13 | (also note i'll meet hdl at code4lib at the end of this month) | |
14:13 | nengard | and my pictures are at: http://flickr.com/photos/nenga[…]2157594341238511/ |
14:14 | paul | recently married ? |
14:14 | nengard | 3.5 years |
14:14 | paul | (the 5 1st photos are your wedding cerem) |
14:14 | ah, ok. | |
14:15 | nengard | i signed up for flickr years after the wedding, but wanted to make sure my wedding pics were there |
14:15 | so i added them recently | |
14:15 | Congrats! | |
14:16 | paul | (+everybody here knows I have 4 boys, from 12 years to 12 ... months) |
14:16 | s/I/we (wife & I)/ | |
14:17 | nengard | I have 2 babies - but they're puppies :) and very happy to have mom at home after a week away: http://flickr.com/photos/nenga[…]2157603415365540/ |
14:18 | gotta love digital cameras and flickr :) | |
14:18 | gmcharlt | hi sorosj, and welcome |
14:18 | nengard: beautiful puppies | |
14:19 | nengard | thanks :) |
14:19 | paul | sorosj: gmcharlt is a LibLime Koha developer |
14:19 | gmcharlt | sorosj: and gmcharlt == Galen Charlton |
14:20 | sorosj | hi Galen, thanks |
14:26 | paul | nengard: where are you located geographically ? |
14:47 | nengard | I'm in the US in PA |
14:47 | Pennsylvania | |
14:53 | paul | thx wikipedia, now I know ;-) |
14:54 | close to OH... | |
14:55 | atz | the states are adjacent, but she's on the other side of PA, still about 7+ hours of driving to get there (through the mountains) |
14:57 | paul | koha.org is back... (git rss updated with 4 commits) |
14:57 | (3 in fact) | |
14:57 | sorosj | w00t |
15:00 | nengard | should i submit my bug report now? |
15:00 | hmmm | |
15:00 | bugs.koha.org still not up | |
15:01 | atz | DNS is distributed, so it might work for one ISP and not another |
15:01 | owen | Working for me |
15:02 | nengard | k |
15:02 | i'll wait | |
15:02 | got plenty of other things to learn | |
16:01 | insanekane | hi ... anyone around ? |
16:04 | MatthewMetzger | hello insanekane |
16:05 | insanekane | hi matthew ... is there some way to get the catalog to return all entries ? |
16:05 | paul | hello insanekane. |
16:05 | which version are you using ? | |
16:05 | insanekane | hi paul |
16:06 | 2.2.9 | |
16:07 | paul | the answer is no then. |
16:07 | it will be yes in 3.0 | |
16:07 | where you can create custom queries (with SQL if you know that, but you can use a wizard otherwise) | |
16:08 | MatthewMetzger | bugs.koha.org is now up for me, but was down just an hour ago. Looks like DNS is doing its magic. |
16:08 | paul | those queries returning as many results as you want. So being able to return the complete catalogue |
16:09 | insanekane | paul: actually, im a programmer ... not a librarian |
16:09 | but i was investigating koha for a librarian friend of mine | |
16:10 | paul | so, if you want the complete catalogue, you can always do a "SELECT * FROM biblio" to get everything |
16:10 | insanekane | oho ok |
16:10 | let me try that | |
16:11 | paul | (or more complete : SELECT * FROM biblio LEFT JOIN biblioitems USING(biblionumber) |
16:13 | insanekane | paul: does unicode work in koha properly ? |
16:13 | paul | in Koha 3.0, yes. |
16:14 | insanekane | paul: i have something like this in biblio table column title "ക്ക്ര" |
16:14 | paul | in Koha 2.2.9, poorly (and unsupported officially) |
16:14 | insanekane | hmm .. and koha 3.0 is currently unstable ? |
16:14 | paul | it's officially unstable, but in production in some sites |
16:15 | but if you install it in production, be ready to have to update frequently (and usually painlessly) | |
16:15 | insanekane | paul: does it require a lot of effort/handholding/knowledge of koha to get 3.0 running ? |
16:15 | hmm | |
16:15 | so its not as easy as 2.2.9 | |
16:15 | paul | if you succeded to install 2.2, you should succeed to install 3.0 |
16:16 | (which size is your library -in items- ) ? | |
16:16 | insanekane | yeah, but the problem is im scared that once we install 3.0, then we have to update it regularly to keep with the bug fixes |
16:17 | paul: actually, im dont know much about the size of the libraries, since my librarian friend didnt tell me about it | |
16:17 | MatthewMetzger | I've been having some problem with a migration from 2.2.9 to 3.0. It is still not working yet, but I'm close. |
16:17 | insanekane | oho ok matthew |
16:17 | paul: is there some indication of when koha 3.0 will become stable ? like some roadmap etc ? | |
16:18 | i know thats a stupid question ... | |
16:18 | but i would like to know whether to develop some kind of system where the data entry can happen now, and migration to koha 3.0 can happen when it is released as stable version | |
16:22 | gmcharlt | insanekane: a beta of Koha 3 will be released in the next few database; the stable, general release should happen in March AFAIK |
16:23 | insanekane | gmcharlt: you mean days right ? instead of database ? |
16:23 | gmcharlt | ack, yes, "days" |
16:23 | insanekane | :) |
16:23 | thanks a lot gmcharit | |
16:23 | gmcharlt | no problem |
16:30 | fbcit | gmcharlt: hehe... next few databases may be accurate as well... ;-) |
16:30 | gmcharlt | fbcit: I try to cover all possibilities :) |
16:31 | paul | insanekane: I asked about the size or your library because if it's small, you can use "NoZebra", and the setup is exactly like 2.2 |
16:31 | if the size is large, you must use Koha Zebra, and the setup is much more complex (although not a problem for a linux/unix sysadm) | |
16:31 | large = more than something like 100 000 documents | |
16:33 | MatthewMetzger | paul: that's good to know. Is there a documented explanation of these options? If yes, I can find it. |
16:33 | paul | i'm not sure there's something on the wiki about that, but you should investigate |
16:33 | MatthewMetzger | paul: okay, thanks. |
16:33 | paul | i've written some pages, probably on the wiki, but not sure, sorry |
16:34 | however, during setup, the web part of the installer ask you and explain those two options. | |
16:35 | MatthewMetzger | I am still experiencing some problems with my upgrade from 2.2.9 to 3.0. bug #1820. gmcharlt was helping me out on Friday of last week. |
16:35 | paul: I just did the installer (on Friday) and I don't remember it being mentioned on the web part. | |
16:36 | paul | it's the last question : Zebra or NoZebra |
16:36 | MatthewMetzger | Maybe something went wrong with my installer, I don't think I got to that question. |
16:37 | I'm having quite a few *smallish* issues that are keeping me from getting 3.0 up and running. | |
16:38 | The most noticeable is that the admin web interface forces me to re-login every time I click a link within it. | |
16:39 | My browser does support cookies. | |
16:45 | paul | MatthewMetzger: are you sure your Perl packages are up2date ? |
16:46 | owen | MatthewMetzger: Your browser doesn't support cookies? |
16:46 | paul | one of the thing that could explain that problem could be a CGI::Session not uptodate (or DBD::Mysql, don't remember which) |
16:46 | owen | Oh, sorry, I misread |
16:46 | MatthewMetzger | paul: Pretty sure. The installer said they were and I worked for about two days updating the perl modules |
16:47 | paul | MatthewMetzger: cgi-bin/koha/admin/systempreferences.pl?tab=Admin |
16:47 | what contains "SessionStorage" ? | |
16:48 | (should be mysql) | |
16:48 | MatthewMetzger | paul, I'll check CGI::Session |
16:48 | paul | MatthewMetzger: cgi-bin/koha/about.pl is the quickest way to check |
16:49 | For me : CGI::Session 4.20 | |
16:49 | and DBD::mysql 4.005 | |
16:49 | http://i15.bureau.paulpoulain.[…]bin/koha/about.pl (login abel / abel) | |
16:51 | MatthewMetzger | paul: thanks for the URL, I'll looking at it right now (my local install). |
16:52 | The most noticeable thing is that XML::LibXSLT and YAML::Syck say "module is missing. I'll check the version numbers of the others. | |
16:52 | paul | YAML::Syck is the culprit in your problem |
16:53 | MatthewMetzger | okay. Also, my CGI::Session is 4.13 instead of 4.20. Odd as I worked really hard to get all these modules to their latest version. I'll give it another go. |
16:53 | paul: thanks so much for your help. I really appreciate it! | |
16:54 | paul | try YAML::Syck first |
16:54 | MatthewMetzger | I'll let you all know if I get this issue resolved. I'll check back in on this channel in a few hours. |
16:56 | paul | MatthewMetzger: if "few" means more than 2 hours, i'll be away, as it's almost 6PM here in France |
17:01 | MatthewMetzger | paul: thanks. It will probably be about two hours or more as I've got lunch here in the states (and other work). |
17:02 | paul | so another one will help you ;-) |
17:03 | insanekane | owen: whats the RMS web browsing method ? |
17:03 | owen | http://lwn.net/Articles/262570/ |
17:03 | paul | insanekane: everything OFF (no cookies, not javascript...) |
17:03 | insanekane | heh, thats almost dumb :) |
17:04 | paul | nope, that's RMS ! |
17:08 | insanekane | :) |
17:22 | paul_: just saw your email re UNicode problems in MARC :) | |
19:15 | MatthewMetzger | I'm back from testing some things. |
19:16 | paul: good evening. I ran cpan and force installed YAML::Syck, but the about.pl page in Koha still says that the module is not installed. | |
19:17 | I'm not sure why these modules are not being recognized, as I painstakingly made sure that all of the modules required by koha 3 where installed and up to date. | |
19:18 | gmcharlt: could it possibly be a result of the database irregularities that you saw on Friday? | |
19:18 | http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1820 | |
19:20 | Hello paul_ | |
19:28 | hmm... (thinking out loud) France has gone to sleep or at least home ... I wonder when New Zealand wakes up ... | |
19:30 | gmcharlt | MatthewMetzger: I don't think the database issues should affect it, unless you don't have a sessions table |
19:30 | MatthewMetzger | I believe I changed that setting to "tmp" |
19:30 | I tried it with both mysql and tmp and got the same behavior | |
19:31 | gmcharlt: thanks. It must be that Koha can't see my installed YAML::Syck module | |
19:33 | YAML::Syck is up to date (1.01). | |
19:33 | cpan should be giving me the latest stable version, right? | |
19:36 | Yes. I just checked YAML::Syck 1.01 is the most recent version. | |
20:52 | atrus123 | hi all |
20:53 | chris | hi atrus123 |
20:53 | atrus123 | question about the new Koha alpha.. couldn't find the answer in bugzilla, so it may just be my setup |
20:55 | I'm trying to do a bulk marc import... I can get records into the reservoir, but when I try and complete the import, it just hangs. | |
20:55 | chris | hmmm |
20:56 | atrus123 | I also tried the bulkmarcimport tool, and I get this error: .ERROR: Adding biblio failed: Arguments must be MARC::Field object at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Biblio.pm line 2572 |
20:56 | chris | and they are valid marc records? |
20:58 | atrus123 | they look like it... they show up fine in the "managed staged marc records" citation list. |
20:59 | chris | odd, might be best to report it on bugzilla, then galen who wrote the importer can take a look |
21:00 | atrus123 | ok, will do. what sorts of information do you recommend I post there? i've never set up an OPAC before, and I have no experience with Koha. |
21:00 | gmcharlt | atrus123: please include the file of MARC records (reduce to it at most 100 records or so if it's large) |
21:00 | chris | basically all the detail you have said in here is good .. and if you wanted and the file is small you could add the file |
21:01 | *snap* | |
21:02 | atrus123 | ok, thanks all :-) |
21:02 | chris | thanks for testing :) |
21:02 | atrus123 | i'll post it in just a few |
21:14 | Ok, thanks again. It's bug 1833. | |
02:00 | kados | Feb 11 07:55:19 kohavm76 Koha Zebraqueue [6244]: 1 operations waiting to be run |
02:00 | Feb 11 07:55:19 kohavm76 Koha Zebraqueue [6244]: Executing zebra operations | |
02:00 | Feb 11 07:55:20 kohavm76 Koha Zebraqueue [6244]: ZOOM error 10004 "Connection lost" (addinfo: "unix:/home/nce/koha/var/run/zebradb/b | |
02:00 | ibliosocket") from diag-set 'ZOOM' | |
02:00 | chris | yep |
02:00 | kados | chris: the socket's there |
02:00 | no idea why it's not able to connect | |
02:00 | chris | yeah whatever the problem is, the fix will need to be applied to the cron job too |
02:00 | kados | that error basically fills up syslog |
02:01 | chris | is the operation waiting a delete? |
02:02 | kados | I dunno |
02:02 | it seems to have cleared out zebraqueue in nicole's install now | |
02:03 | chris | }elsif($error==10004 && $recon==0){##Lost connection -reconnect |
02:03 | sleep 1; ## wait a sec! | |
02:03 | $recon=1; | |
02:03 | $Zpackage->destroy(); | |
02:03 | $Zconn->destroy(); | |
02:03 | goto "reconnect"; | |
02:03 | it should be reconnecting | |
02:04 | at least once | |
02:04 | weird | |
02:08 | ill go see if i can make it do it again | |
02:09 | kados | http://opac-nce.dev.kohalibrar[…]?biblionumber=503 |
02:09 | that record wasn't ever indexed in zebra | |
02:09 | and zebraqueue is empty on nicole's install | |
02:09 | btw: root pwd for mysql is blank on that box | |
02:09 | chris | empty? or just done=1 ? |
02:09 | kados | done=1 |
02:12 | ok, I'm able to reproduce this pretty easily | |
02:13 | just added another bib and it's not getting indexed | |
02:13 | chris | same error in the syslog? |
02:14 | ah yep i see lemme add some more debug and start the daemon again | |
02:15 | kados | so maybe after a while it just givs up and markes it done? |
02:15 | chris | yeah |
02:16 | where are the init scripts to stop the daemon? | |
02:16 | just under bin/ ? | |
02:17 | ah yep | |
02:17 | kados | *nod* |
02:18 | last time this happened I tried running the daemon from the command line as user nce and that seemed to work | |
02:18 | chris | even if you just restart it, it will reconnect fine |
02:18 | kados | weird |
02:19 | yea, it's indexed now | |
02:19 | chris | right restarted |
02:19 | kados | I"ll add another bib |
02:19 | chris | ive added a message in the reconnect bit, to see if its attempting to reconnect |
02:20 | kados | added |
02:20 | Harry Slaughter and the sorcerer's stone | |
02:20 | :) | |
02:20 | chris | heh |
02:20 | kados | and it indexed fine this time |
02:20 | chris | hasnt lost connection yet |
02:20 | ok, lets stop zebra | |
02:20 | and then start it again | |
02:20 | kados | k |
02:21 | you can do that with the ctl script too | |
02:21 | chris | that oughta force it to have to reconnect |
02:21 | kados | I'll add another bib when you say the word |
02:23 | chris | ok try that |
02:23 | kados | added |
02:23 | Harry Taught her about the sorcerer's stone | |
02:23 | chris | that did it |
02:23 | kados | huh ... |
02:23 | chris | ok its not getting to the reconnect bit |
02:24 | for some reason | |
02:24 | Unix::Syslog::syslog LOG_ERR, "Attempting reconection"; | |
02:24 | we should be seeing that | |
02:24 | kados | so there are two reasons: zebra's randomly dieing and the zebraqueue daemon can't reconnect when it does |
02:24 | chris | yeah the daemon is doing its thing and restarting zebra |
02:24 | but then the queue daemon isnt reconnecting | |
02:25 | so ill track down why its not reconnecting | |
02:25 | at least i know how to consistently reproduce the error now | |
02:25 | just kill zebra | |
02:25 | kados | sweet |
02:25 | quantifiable_errors++ | |
02:31 | chris | interesting |
02:32 | kados | what's up? |
02:32 | chris | it appears to be spanging out in the ZOOM module |
02:32 | so its not getting back to the error handling in the daemon | |
02:33 | time to fill the daemon up with debug statements :) | |
02:35 | good trick is to just go to | |
02:35 | ttp://staff-nce.dev.kohalibrary.com/cgi-bin/koha/catalogue/moredetail.pl?biblionumber=503 | |
02:35 | and choose update item | |
02:36 | sticks a row in the zebraqueue | |
02:36 | (so faster than adding somethign) | |
02:36 | kados | ahh, right |
02:37 | could also checkout/checkin something I suppose | |
02:37 | chris | yep |
02:47 | i think its the Zconn sub in C4::Context | |
02:49 | kados | huh |
02:49 | chris | thats what it uses to connect |
02:49 | kados | it's very simplar to the dbh sub |
02:49 | similar I mean | |
02:49 | chris | yes |
02:49 | but | |
02:49 | i think this is wrong | |
02:49 | if ( defined($context->{"Zconn"}->{$server}) ) { | |
02:49 | return $context->{"Zconn"}->{$server}; | |
02:50 | i think that is true, even tho the connection has timedout | |
02:50 | kados | huh |
02:50 | chris | so it keeps handing back the timedout connection |
02:50 | kados | so it never resets |
02:50 | chris | we arent destroying it |
02:51 | my $Zconn=C4::Context->Zconn($server, 0, 1); | |
02:51 | $Zpackage->send("update"); | |
02:51 | thats where it dies | |
02:52 | i wonder if there is a way to check a connection is live | |
02:53 | kados | http://search.cpan.org/irk/Net[…]ib/ZOOM.pod#check() |
02:53 | yep | |
02:53 | check() :-) | |
02:53 | chris | right ill add that |
02:53 | and we'll see if that fixes it | |
02:53 | this would break under mod_perl too .. we dont see it with our cgi's cos they die and respawn | |
02:53 | kados | but ... |
02:53 | Checks whether an error is pending on the connection, and throw a ZOOM::Exception object if so. Since errors are thrown as they occur for synchronous connections, there is no need ever to call this except in asynchronous applications. | |
02:54 | we should probably be testing the exception object if we aren't already | |
02:54 | exception() | |
02:54 | die $conn->exception(); | |
02:54 | exception() returns the same information as error_x() in the form of a ZOOM::Exception object which may be thrown or rendered. If no error occurred on the connection, then exception() returns an undefined value. | |
02:55 | so does that mean we could get away with simply checking for exception() ? | |
02:55 | chris | Feb 11 21:45:23 kohavm76 Koha Zebraqueue [15895]: {_conn} undefined: has this Connection been destroy()ed? at /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.8/ZOOM.pm line 343. |
02:55 | kados | oh, yea, I forgot, Z39.50 is stateful |
02:56 | chris | my($error, $errmsg, $addinfo, $diagset) = $Zconn->error_x(); |
02:56 | thats the line that throws that error | |
02:56 | so it gets back a Zconn from C4::Context | |
02:56 | but its a dud | |
02:57 | so ill try adding exception and/or check to the Zconn sub in C4::Context see if that sorts it | |
02:57 | kados | cool |
03:03 | chris | w00t |
03:03 | kados | got it? |
03:03 | chris | that got it |
03:03 | kados | sweet |
03:03 | chris++ | |
03:03 | chris | it spazzes once now, and then reconnects |
03:03 | kados | sweet |
03:04 | chris | ill take all my debug back out |
03:04 | then make a patch | |
03:05 | kados | cool |
03:41 | MatthewMetzger | Hello. Anyone awake? |
03:41 | kados | hi MatthewMetzger |
03:42 | MatthewMetzger | kados: hello |
03:42 | I've been on the lists and on this channel for a while | |
03:42 | trying to figure out what the problem is with some of my perl modules | |
03:43 | kados | what distro of linux? |
03:43 | MatthewMetzger | I've almost successfully completed an upgrade from 2.2.9 to 3.0 alpha |
03:43 | ubuntu dapper 6.06 | |
03:44 | kados | what perl modules are giving you trouble? |
03:44 | MatthewMetzger | My problem is the latest post to the koha devel list |
03:44 | perl-YAML-Syck | |
03:45 | kados | ahh, you're the one with the sessions prob? |
03:45 | MatthewMetzger | yes. |
03:45 | Although, I think I have more problems :) | |
03:45 | kados | did you try changing to use the file sqllite? |
03:45 | in place of regular ole mysql? | |
03:46 | MatthewMetzger | yes, I believe that's a setting in the intranet administration. If so, then yes. If not, then I'm not sure I understand fully. |
03:47 | kados | yes it is |
03:47 | it's in the sysprefs | |
03:47 | MatthewMetzger | Yes, I changed it to both mysql and tmp and have the same behavior. |
03:48 | The strange thing is that both XML::LibXSLT and YAML::Syck are installed according to cpan, but the koha about page says they're missing | |
03:48 | kados | did you install XML::LibXML from cpan or from your package maintainer? |
03:49 | MatthewMetzger | I believe that I tried the ubuntu repositories first, but that the version number wasn't high enough and then I tried cpan. Could that be the problem? |
03:49 | kados | yes |
03:50 | MatthewMetzger | How do I go about fixing it? |
03:50 | kados | well, you can uninstall the cpan version |
03:51 | MatthewMetzger | okay. |
03:51 | kados | there's a bin/rm_perlmod.pl script in your koha install |
03:51 | MatthewMetzger | does that script do the removing? |
03:52 | kados | sometimes yes |
03:53 | MatthewMetzger | okay. I'll try that first. cpan doesn't seem to have a remove command. I'm familiar with perl, but don't have much practical experience with it. |
03:53 | except installing perl modules | |
04:20 | kados: Here's what I got. | |
04:20 | sysadmindocument-server:/usr/share/koha/bin$ sudo ./perlmodule_rm.pl XML::LibXSLT | |
04:20 | XML::LibXSLT is not installed at ./perlmodule_rm.pl line 12 | |
04:20 | sysadmindocument-server:/usr/share/koha/bin$ sudo ./perlmodule_rm.pl YAML::Syck | |
04:20 | YAML::Syck is not installed at ./perlmodule_rm.pl line 12 | |
04:57 | donovan | hello all. |
04:59 | is there someone here who could respond to some questions on the project? |
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