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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 12:55 | fbcit | g'morning koha |
| 13:03 | chris around? | |
| 13:07 | gmcharlt | hi fbcit |
| 13:07 | fbcit | hey gmcharlt |
| 13:08 | you're here early :) | |
| 13:08 | do you know if there is any place in the staff client that patron images are displayed? | |
| 13:14 | gmcharlt | yeah, that would be one place for it |
| 13:15 | fbcit | ~ line 372 |
| 13:15 | if borrowerimages subdir were added to the repo, installer should pick up on it and create it, right? | |
| 13:17 | gmcharlt | looks like patron images are pulled in through Javascript, so wouldn't be much reference to them in code |
| 13:18 | creating directory, possibly adding it to map in Makefile.PL and sticking a blank REAME file in it should do it | |
| 13:18 | issue is that permissions need to be set up so that Apache user (e.g., www-data) can write to the directory | |
| 13:18 | so would need to put in instructions about setting permissions or ACLs, etc. | |
| 13:19 | or else sidestep the issue by storing the images as BLOBs in MySQL | |
| 13:20 | anyway, gotta to start shoveling snow -- bbiab | |
| 13:20 | fbcit | :) |
| 13:59 | [K] | *** join #kohaFreeNode: Comete n=Cometekrypton.saint-lo.fr |
| 14:48 | fbcit | hey atz |
| 14:49 | atz | greets fbcit |
| 14:53 | fbcit | atz: Have a good vacation? |
| 14:58 | hdl | hi |
| 14:58 | fbcit | hi hdl |
| 14:58 | hdl | anyone working on Fines or Overdues around ? |
| 15:15 | slef | hi all - should MARC21 be listed in koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/admin/z3950servers.tmpl? Is USMARC standing in for it? |
| 15:18 | gmcharlt | slef: I believe that USMARC is what the record syntax is still called for Z39.50 purposes |
| 15:19 | self: but the label could be changed to USMARC/MARC21 or somesuch | |
| 15:19 | slef | gmcharlt: ANSI slow to update? It would be good if we can change the user-visible label, as I've just had another new koha librarian ask me about it. |
| 15:20 | gmcharlt | slef: I'll make a patch to change the user-visible label unless you want |
| 15:20 | want to, rather | |
| 15:20 | slef | I've all the files open, so I may as well |
| 15:20 | gmcharlt | ok, thanks |
| 15:22 | hdl: question about ISO-5426 -- is it equivalent to just the ANSEL part of MARC-8, or does it (or a related ISO standard) include the MARC-8 encodes for Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Arabic, etc.? | |
| 15:23 | hdl | only ANSEL part of MARC-8 |
| 15:24 | I got the hash from marc4j. | |
| 15:25 | I belive we could investiguate and build up a better hash. | |
| 15:25 | Have you tested that on some data ? | |
| 15:25 | gmcharlt | hdl: thanks. I wonder if there's a way to get MARC::Charset to convert just ANSEL |
| 15:26 | hdl: tried in context of Z39.50 searches of LC -- when encoding is ISO-5426, conversion seems to not handle the diacritics correctly | |
| 15:26 | setting encoding to MARC-8 (which uses MARC::Charset) seems to work better | |
| 15:27 | hdl | On BNF encoding, it works well for diacritics. |
| 15:27 | And they claim to have biblios encoded in ISO5426. | |
| 15:29 | gmcharlt | 'BNF' is the French national library's Z39.50 server? |
| 15:29 | hdl | Yes. |
| 15:30 | And marc8_to_utf8 failed on that. | |
| 15:32 | gmcharlt | hdl: what's a good word for a title search of BNF? |
| 15:32 | hdl | http://www.bnf.fr/pages/zNavig[…]frame/infopro.htm |
| 15:32 | Les misérables | |
| 15:33 | or ISBN :2020224526 | |
| 15:39 | gmcharlt | hdl: alas, that server is not accepting connections at the moment |
| 15:40 | hdl: do you know of another French Z39.50 server that works in the same way as BNF? | |
| 15:40 | hdl | SUDOC |
| 15:41 | gmcharlt | i.e., carmin.sudoc.abes.fr? |
| 15:41 | hdl | http://www.abes.fr/abes/page,439,mode-public.html |
| 15:41 | yes | |
| 15:49 | gmcharlt | hdl: today just isn't my lucky day -- that one is not accepting my connections |
| 15:53 | hdl: ok, found one I can connect to: Univ. de Rennes | |
| 15:53 | http://irspy.indexdata.com/ful[…]fr%3A210%2Frennes | |
| 15:54 | do diacritics look correct for you if encoding is set to ISO-5426 (they don't for me, but MARC-8 does work for me) | |
| 16:00 | hdl: more info -- for Rennes Z39.50 server (ti=chat) diacritics still look wrong in ISO_5426 mode when code is at currently 3.0 -- i.e., without my charset patch of yesterday | |
| 16:00 | hdl: do they look correct to you? | |
| 16:01 | hdl | trying now |
| 16:07 | Etude comparée du comptage des éosinophiles chez le chien et chez le chat par un automate à variation d'impédance l'Hemavet 950 (Drew Scientific) et deux méthodes manuelles | |
| 16:07 | looks right for me. | |
| 16:09 | But it comes from SUDOC. | |
| 16:09 | ARTUS seems to be USMARC. | |
| 16:09 | (No Title) | |
| 16:24 | gmcharlt | hdl: I guess I'll have to try my testing later when BNF or SUDOC start accepting connections from me |
| 16:25 | hdl: in meantime, if you could check whether my charset patch breaks anything for your testing of BNF or SUDOC, I'd appreciate it | |
| 16:25 | hdl | can you send it to me ? |
| 16:28 | gmcharlt | hdl: I've e-mailed it to you |
| 16:30 | hdl | Patch doesnot apply on ImportBatch.pm |
| 16:33 | gmcharlt | hdl: sorry missed a preceding patch -- will e-mail it to you |
| 16:35 | hdl: sent | |
| 16:45 | hdl | http://pastebin.com/md4f35f6 |
| 16:45 | It doesnot work. | |
| 16:47 | :( | |
| 16:49 | gmcharlt | hdl: what happens when you set z3950servers.encoding to 'MARC-8' and search again? |
| 16:58 | hdl | It Breaks. |
| 16:58 | But ISO_5426 works. | |
| 17:00 | gmcharlt | hdl: so if I understsand correctly, with my patch, ISO_5426 still works for the SUDOC server? |
| 17:00 | hdl | (testing on BNF only) |
| 17:01 | But I still have some problems : | |
| 17:01 | Ãd. du Seuil | |
| 17:01 | Should be Éd. du Seuil | |
| 17:02 | gmcharlt | hdl: the diacritic is not coming across in my IRC channel -- what is the name of it? |
| 17:02 | hdl | Capital E Acute |
| 17:11 | gmcharlt: Have you worked on Authorities ? | |
| 17:11 | gmcharlt | hdl: still in process -- the authorities indexing I posted about on koha-devel is part of it |
| 17:14 | hdl | I sent a patch which allowed authid to be user defined subfield. |
| 17:14 | Have you seen it ? | |
| 17:15 | gmcharlt | hdl: not yet, but sounds useful |
| 17:15 | hdl | I cannot see this post any more. |
| 17:15 | gmcharlt | which one -- the authorities indexing one? |
| 17:36 | gmcharlt-- # missed that BNF requires a username and password | |
| 17:36 | hdl: I just sent you another patch -- should fix invocation of ISO_5426 conversion from a Z39.50 search | |
| 17:44 | hdl: found big difference between ISO-5426 and MARC-8: the combining cedilla is \xD0 in 5426, \xF0 in MARC-8 ANSEL | |
| 17:44 | hdl: now I know why MARC::Charset doesn't work for it | |
| 18:02 | atz | whoa.... microsoft buys yahoo for $44 Billion ?! |
| 18:05 | gmcharlt | atz: is the deal complete? |
| 18:06 | atz | just a bid right now... but a rather persuasive one, I'd say |
| 18:06 | gmcharlt | nah, Yahoo should hold out for more ;) |
| 18:17 | slef | US+EU regulators will call it in anyway |
| 18:19 | gmcharlt | slef: by that you mean kill the deal on antitrust concerns? hope the EU regulators would do so; I'm not so sure about US |
| 18:19 | slef | either way, just the delay may mean that if Yahoo agrees then if it is blocked/obstructed too much, Yahoo will tailspin and be bought by someone else |
| 18:20 | gmcharlt | yep, it's possible |
| 18:20 | I haven't been following Yahoo -- has it been on the way down recently? | |
| 18:21 | slef | no, but doesn't seem to have been on the up like google |
| 18:21 | and microsoft are big anyway | |
| 18:22 | I don't know what analysts think about Wikia Search - it's possible that they reckon it will shift one of the top 4, as Jimmy Wales has media buzz | |
| 18:24 | Yahoo's last results were down, apparently, but even google disappointed | |
| 18:24 | from a libraries point of view, it's sort of disappointing that the big properties are mostly search | |
| 18:25 | then again, if you are a successful non-proprietary search, you won't appear in the list of top properties that the media often quote | |
| 18:27 | atz | anybody know the ppl behind "Alpha-G" consulting that is apparently working to deploy evergreen ? |
| 18:27 | spinoff from equinox? | |
| 18:31 | gmcharlt | atz: the principal John Craig appears to have been a Dynix; looks like he left it to found Alpha-G before Sirsi bought it |
| 18:31 | a Dynix guy, rather | |
| 18:31 | atz | interesting |
| 18:32 | gmcharlt | he has a pretty detailed profile on LinkedIn |
| 19:42 | fbcit | is there a quick way to grab a member's cardnumber based on borrowernumber? |
| 08:38 | chris | evening |
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