| Time |
Nick |
Message |
| 13:50 |
owen |
Hi foxnorth |
| 13:50 |
foxnorth |
owen: hey owen |
| 13:51 |
owen |
What's new with you? You still on biblios full time? |
| 13:52 |
foxnorth |
yeah, still working on it :) |
| 13:52 |
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i've been playing with koha bit, too-- the templates are looking very good! |
| 13:52 |
owen |
thanks, I'm pretty pleased with how far we've gotten. |
| 13:53 |
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I've still got a lot to do on the OPAC |
| 13:53 |
foxnorth |
ah, i haven't played as much with the opac lately |
| 13:53 |
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i should check it out |
| 13:53 |
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very nice |
| 13:53 |
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very clean and sleek looking |
| 13:54 |
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and readable |
| 13:54 |
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i like that |
| 14:21 |
frederic |
Owen? Hello... |
| 14:21 |
owen |
Hi frederic |
| 14:21 |
frederic |
I've just seen your language selection section on page bottom |
| 14:21 |
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It's nice |
| 14:22 |
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It's done with css file and new classes |
| 14:22 |
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Those classes are in en/css/staff-global.css |
| 14:22 |
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for the time beeing it's not reported in fr/css/staff-global.css |
| 14:23 |
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I was wondering why there is not a global css file indendently of language |
| 14:23 |
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Any reason? |
| 14:24 |
owen |
No good reason. But everything in /fr/ has to be re-generated from the /en/ templates anyway when the /en/ templates are updated, don't they? |
| 14:24 |
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I'm not sure what the best practice is when it comes to CSS and internationalization |
| 14:25 |
frederic |
Ok. You're right, even if I'm not sure if css file are regenerated like .tmpl file... |
| 14:26 |
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There could be a global css file and a language specific one. |
| 14:26 |
owen |
That could be the case if the CSS files were outside of the /lang/ directories I guess |
| 14:32 |
frederic |
I had processed template files. It works! Your i18nMenu css are there in French. Thanks. |
| 14:36 |
osaury |
Hi everybody. I'm Olivier SAURY - Marseille, France. I start working on Koha with Paul Poulain. |
| 14:36 |
owen |
Hi osaury |
| 14:36 |
kados |
CSS is regenerated, but CSS is also parsed by the translation tools |
| 14:36 |
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so it's translated in the case of English strings |
| 14:36 |
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at least that's the theory :-) |
| 14:36 |
osaury |
Could someone help me translating two words in english ? |
| 14:37 |
kados |
osaury: sure |
| 14:37 |
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osaury: and welcome! |
| 14:37 |
osaury |
Our customer is a big public librairy. It classifies each document according |
| 14:37 |
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to the catogories of persons who are interested in it. |
| 14:37 |
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Examples of categories : « children », « teenagers » |
| 14:38 |
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, « professionals », etc. |
| 14:38 |
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I called « audience » the column that stores these categories. |
| 14:38 |
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Is it correct ? |
| 14:38 |
kados |
sounds good to me |
| 14:39 |
osaury |
Ok. Thank you very much. |
| 14:40 |
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The 2nd and last expression is « lot de marché public ». |
| 14:41 |
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Context : our customer is a big public librairy with a few suppliers |
| 14:41 |
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(always the same librairians). |
| 14:41 |
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Each year, the librairy makes a request for proposal |
| 14:41 |
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to all the librairians of the region. |
| 14:42 |
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Sorry : the librairy makes a request for proposal to all the BOOKSELLERS of the region. |
| 14:43 |
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No bookseller is big enough to answer to this big request for proposal. |
| 14:43 |
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So the request for proposal is divided into several "lots". |
| 14:44 |
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Example : "musical CDs", "books for children", etc. |
| 14:44 |
kados |
'types' |
| 14:44 |
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perhaps? |
| 14:45 |
osaury |
'types' is to close form 'itemtypes'. |
| 14:45 |
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Is 'Lots' convenient ? |
| 14:57 |
hdl |
osaury : part may be a good term. |
| 15:00 |
osaury |
I will use that term 'part'. Thanks |
| 15:01 |
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I must go now but thank you very much for your help and your welcome. |
| 15:16 |
kados |
well, it's official |
| 15:16 |
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http://plone.org/news |
| 15:16 |
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Koha Community Website Announces Plone Theme Contest |
| 15:16 |
atz |
cool |
| 15:21 |
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kados: http://koha.org/about-koha/news/nr1199901668.html |
| 15:21 |
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has some text: "need wording here about splitting prizes evenly" |
| 15:21 |
kados |
yea, I noticed that too |
| 15:22 |
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russ is the only one who can fix it with the current website |
| 15:34 |
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hence the move to plone in the first place :-) |
| 15:45 |
hdl |
kados : does plone allow some interactions with marcrecords ? |
| 15:46 |
kados |
hdl: no, i don't think so ... it's just a CRM |
| 15:46 |
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oops, CMS I mean |
| 15:46 |
hdl |
drupal too, but has some facilities for that. |
| 15:48 |
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it seems that language facility forget the first language syspref. |
| 15:48 |
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kados : opac-changelanguage.pl should be a copy of changelanguage.pl or a symlink to it ? |
| 15:49 |
kados |
a copy, we can't do symlinks |
| 15:49 |
hdl |
So, I do it and commit it. |
| 15:55 |
kados |
cool |
| 16:08 |
Brooke |
howdy |
| 16:08 |
kados |
hey Brooke |
| 22:11 |
[K] |
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| 22:11 |
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<dennisharrisonFreeNode> hoedy |
| 22:11 |
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<dennisharrisonFreeNode> oops, howdy :) |
| 22:11 |
chris |
hi there |
| 22:14 |
[K] |
<dennisharrisonFreeNode> I see you guys are looking for a new theme |
| 22:14 |
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<dennisharrisonFreeNode> was wondering what sorts of themes you were looking for |
| 22:14 |
kados |
hey dennisharison! |
| 22:14 |
atz |
true |
| 22:15 |
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you got one for us? |
| 22:15 |
kados |
welcome to #koha |
| 22:15 |
[K] |
<dennisharrisonFreeNode> I generate a plone3 theme a day right now :) |
| 22:15 |
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<dennisharrisonFreeNode> been getting lots of customers lately |
| 22:15 |
kados |
dennisharrison: basically, the theme goals are outlined here: |
| 22:15 |
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http://koha.org/community/contest.html |
| 22:15 |
[K] |
<dennisharrisonFreeNode> the one I am working on today is at megarec.com |
| 22:15 |
kados |
sweet |
| 22:15 |
[K] |
<dennisharrisonFreeNode> won't look right without firefox until I am finished witht he browser hacking |
| 22:16 |
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<dennisharrisonFreeNode> I see that, was just wondering if you guys had specific requests or examples you wanted to follow? |
| 22:16 |
kados |
well, there are a couple examples listed there I think ... really, we are looking for something that is an upgrade of the current theme, something that looks like a 'version upgrade' to koha.org :-) |
| 22:17 |
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so some of the same basic themes of koha.org |
| 22:17 |
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but not strictly the same if that makes sense |
| 22:19 |
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dennisharrison, sorry, we're programmers, so not the best at describing our goals for the website design :-) |
| 22:19 |
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dennisharrison: we want it to look pretty :-) |
| 22:20 |
[K] |
<dennisharrisonFreeNode> and are you guys a company or a non profit? |
| 22:20 |
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<dennisharrisonFreeNode> I would be willing to do the work as a donation |
| 22:20 |
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<dennisharrisonFreeNode> have to get the taxes down somehow |
| 22:20 |
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<dennisharrisonFreeNode> yeah makes a lot of sense |
| 22:20 |
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<dennisharrisonFreeNode> just wondering if any particular community site struck you as 'that is what I want' :) |
| 22:21 |
kados |
koha.org is a group of libraries, individuals, and support companies not unlike the plone community |
| 22:21 |
[K] |
<dennisharrisonFreeNode> yeah, we used to host plone4lib |
| 22:21 |
kados |
LibLime is the company sponsoring the contest |
| 22:21 |
[K] |
<dennisharrisonFreeNode> similar project to what darci is doing? |
| 22:21 |
kados |
http://liblime.com |
| 22:21 |
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dennisharrison: exactly |
| 22:21 |
[K] |
<dennisharrisonFreeNode> ouch, liblime needs a new skin :) |
| 22:21 |
kados |
dennisharrison: koha is software that runs a library, handles circulation, etc. |
| 22:22 |
[K] |
<dennisharrisonFreeNode> based on plone ? |
| 22:22 |
kados |
dennisharrison: yep :-) |
| 22:22 |
[K] |
<dennisharrisonFreeNode> any additional stuff you guys have back in collective ? |
| 22:22 |
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<dennisharrisonFreeNode> or is this sort of like just a very specific to libraries plone that libs would be bettero ff using? |
| 22:22 |
kados |
the skin is strictly for the koha.org website |
| 22:23 |
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we wouldn't be distributing it to libraries for instance |
| 22:23 |
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it's just for the koha.org website :-) |
| 22:23 |
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does that make sense? |
| 22:23 |
[K] |
<dennisharrisonFreeNode> yep |
| 22:23 |
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<dennisharrisonFreeNode> just wondering about the focus of your project |
| 22:24 |
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<dennisharrisonFreeNode> your submission page says it must install via quickinstaller for 2.5.5 |
| 22:24 |
kados |
the focus of the project is on what's called a 'library automation system' |
| 22:24 |
[K] |
<dennisharrisonFreeNode> you want a 2.5 or 3.* theme? |
| 22:24 |
chris |
oh koha the software isnt based on plone |
| 22:24 |
kados |
right, koha is separate from plone :-) |
| 22:24 |
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it's written in perl in fact |
| 22:24 |
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I think darci recommended 2.5 theme because 3.* wasn't as stable |
| 22:24 |
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and didn't have all the products we needed yet |
| 22:25 |
[K] |
<dennisharrisonFreeNode> haha oh ok :) |
| 22:25 |
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<dennisharrisonFreeNode> what products? |
| 22:25 |
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<dennisharrisonFreeNode> darci hasn't really messed with plone3 too much other then as an integrator as far as I know |
| 22:26 |
kados |
I can't recall all of the products she recommended off hand |
| 22:27 |
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documentation center was one |
| 22:27 |
[K] |
<dennisharrisonFreeNode> I would recommend moving to plone3 over 2.5 |
| 22:27 |
kados |
there was a product map that tied into google maps |
| 22:27 |
[K] |
<dennisharrisonFreeNode> I am working on that right now |
| 22:27 |
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<dennisharrisonFreeNode> new release will have the ability to use alt images as the map |
| 22:27 |
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<dennisharrisonFreeNode> and draw polygons per location |
| 22:27 |
kados |
a case studies product IIRC |
| 22:27 |
[K] |
<dennisharrisonFreeNode> should be ready by tomorrow |
| 22:27 |
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<dennisharrisonFreeNode> ahh ok |
| 22:27 |
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<dennisharrisonFreeNode> yeah |
| 22:28 |
kados |
as well as screenshots IIRC |
| 22:28 |
[K] |
<dennisharrisonFreeNode> that isn't in 3 yet |
| 22:28 |
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<dennisharrisonFreeNode> but won't be hard to upgrade |
| 22:28 |
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<dennisharrisonFreeNode> screenshots? |
| 22:28 |
kados |
yea it was like a showcase product of some kind |
| 22:28 |
[K] |
<dennisharrisonFreeNode> thumbnail view and something similar to lightbox? |
| 22:28 |
kados |
that maybe an artist would use? |
| 22:28 |
[K] |
<dennisharrisonFreeNode> yeah, handled better in plone3 |
| 22:28 |
kados |
or a website designer? |
| 22:28 |
[K] |
<dennisharrisonFreeNode> I also just re released the swf slideshow |
| 22:29 |
kados |
we want to use it to showcase the libraries using Koha |
| 22:29 |
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cool |
| 22:29 |
[K] |
<dennisharrisonFreeNode> it can build swf's based on jpeg / swf and mp3 input |
| 22:29 |
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<dennisharrisonFreeNode> sort of similar to a ttw poweropint |
| 22:29 |
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<dennisharrisonFreeNode> powerpoint |
| 22:29 |
kados |
sweet |
| 22:30 |
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well, whoever is chosen for the re-skinning would likely have lots of other work coming their way |
| 22:30 |
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related to koha.org |
| 22:30 |
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(and perhaps liblime.com ;-)) |
| 22:31 |
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and !!! I did the skin for liblime.com ... it's not _that_ bad, is it? :-) |
| 22:31 |
[K] |
<dennisharrisonFreeNode> oh .. no .. its great ;p |
| 22:31 |
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<dennisharrisonFreeNode> j/k |
| 22:31 |
kados |
hehe |
| 22:32 |
[K] |
<dennisharrisonFreeNode> I just have a 1680x1050 res and most sites now a days look tiny |
| 22:32 |
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<dennisharrisonFreeNode> I do like how easy static pixel layout is to manipulate though |
| 22:33 |
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<dennisharrisonFreeNode> well, lets see what kind of stuff I can submit to you |
| 22:33 |
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<dennisharrisonFreeNode> I'll give you a few themes to look at |
| 22:33 |
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<dennisharrisonFreeNode> Nice talking to you guys, will let you know after I submit some |
| 22:34 |
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<dennisharrisonFreeNode> well I guess I need to sort of figure something out first |
| 22:34 |
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<dennisharrisonFreeNode> are you adamant about using plone 2.5? |
| 22:36 |
kados |
not personally |
| 22:37 |
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have to ask Darci, she's running the contest :-) |
| 22:37 |
[K] |
<dennisharrisonFreeNode> ahh gotcha :) |
| 22:37 |
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<dennisharrisonFreeNode> she owes me some jello shots anyhow |
| 22:39 |
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<dennisharrisonFreeNode> well i'll let you guys get back to work, I don't have a problem with 2.5, it is easier to skin for as far as time wise due to the lack of needing multiple zcml imports and browsers, but I will see what she says about plone3 |
| 22:39 |
kados |
cool |
| 22:45 |
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wow |
| 22:45 |
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http://www.iht.com/articles/20[…]/business/sun.php |
| 22:46 |
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sun just bought MySQL |
| 22:46 |
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!!! |
| 22:46 |
chris |
yep |
| 22:46 |
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well MySQL AB |
| 22:46 |
kados |
*nod* |
| 22:46 |
[K] |
<dennisharrisonFreeNode> hehe, poor sun, the only company to 'do it right' and they shat on by the industry |
| 22:47 |
kados |
heh |
| 22:47 |
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yea, sun++ for the most part |
| 22:51 |
atz |
sweet... sun++ indeed |
| 22:52 |
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i expect to see some good SPARC tweaks |
| 00:15 |
kados |
that's committments to translate Koha into 26 languages! |
| 00:15 |
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w00t |
| 00:17 |
atz |
26 is huge. |
| 00:18 |
chris |
added klingon yet? |
| 00:18 |
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:) |
| 00:18 |
atz |
actually.... i saw code w/ klingon |
| 00:18 |
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C4/Languages.pm |
| 00:19 |
kados |
hehe |
| 00:19 |
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so get this, we have like the best spot on the floor at PLA |
| 00:20 |
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http://fp32.a2zinc.net/clients[…]ublic/fphtml.aspx |
| 00:20 |
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we're where booth 1013 is |
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except we're a 20x20 |
| 00:21 |
atz |
nice spot |
| 00:21 |
kados |
right next to TLC, SirsiDynix, III, |
| 00:21 |
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man, that rocks |
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and polaris |
| 00:21 |
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hehe |
| 00:24 |
chris |
heh |
| 00:46 |
[K] |
<dennisharrisonFreeNode> alright |
| 00:46 |
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<dennisharrisonFreeNode> darci says that she just doesn't trust plone3 yet for you guys :) |
| 00:46 |
kados |
hehe |
| 00:46 |
[K] |
<dennisharrisonFreeNode> so i'll throw in a couple of skins for 2.5 for you guys that will work on 3 as well for when you want to upgrade |
| 00:46 |
kados |
sweet |
| 00:46 |
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dennisharrison++ |
| 00:47 |
[K] |
<dennisharrisonFreeNode> I suggest skipping 2.5 altogether but I understand there is politics going on, so , no biggy :) |
| 00:47 |
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<dennisharrisonFreeNode> give me a few days for it |
| 00:47 |
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<dennisharrisonFreeNode> you guys like openplans ? |
| 00:48 |
kados |
what's openplans? |
| 00:50 |
[K] |
<dennisharrisonFreeNode> openplans.org |
| 00:51 |
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<dennisharrisonFreeNode> just the header area really |
| 00:51 |
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<dennisharrisonFreeNode> would make colors work via base props for sure |
| 00:51 |
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<dennisharrisonFreeNode> maybe a lightly textured background and round all corners with a low radius |
| 00:51 |
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<dennisharrisonFreeNode> give you guys some flexibility to change colors on the fly |
| 00:52 |
kados |
rounded corners would be nice |
| 00:52 |
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openplans is a bit blockish for my tastes |
| 00:53 |
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also, I think we plan to have a lot more graphical content |
| 00:53 |
[K] |
<dennisharrisonFreeNode> sure thing, how about ... |
| 00:55 |
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<dennisharrisonFreeNode> http://www.colourlovers.com/ |
| 00:56 |
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<dennisharrisonFreeNode> with different colors rounded corners and liquid ? |
| 00:58 |
kados |
hard to visualize :-) |
| 00:58 |
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sorry, I'm not much help :-) |
| 00:58 |
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and ... I need to head home for dinner |
| 00:59 |
[K] |
<dennisharrisonFreeNode> see ya |
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lloyd_ |
mmmm. 3.0 is a huge improvement! |
