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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 12:48 | arsenic | good morning! |
| 13:35 | fbcit | g'morning koha |
| 13:36 | arsenic | hi fcbit! |
| 14:11 | fbcit | kados ping |
| 14:14 | morning arsenic | |
| 14:22 | arsenic | fcbit: How goes the windows' port? |
| 14:53 | kados | morning all |
| 15:00 | fbcit | arsenic_: there lack maybe 4 deps of having it up |
| 15:00 | one is a real challenge | |
| 15:00 | libxslt | |
| 15:01 | seems nobody has XML::LibXSLT running under strawberry | |
| 15:02 | and I have not been able to get the activeperl version to work under strawberry | |
| 15:06 | gmcharlt | good morning #koha |
| 15:06 | arsenic | 'morning gmcharlt |
| 15:06 | kados | hey galen |
| 16:05 | fbcit | morning gmcharlt |
| 16:05 | I sent you an email about libxslt | |
| 16:05 | gmcharlt | morning fbcit -- got the e-mail, thanks |
| 16:24 | fbcit | can anyone recommend a quick and accurate way to test regex's before hand? |
| 16:28 | gmcharlt | fbcit: test regexes for what? |
| 16:28 | fbcit | results |
| 16:29 | gmcharlt | fbcit: sorry, not understanding -- so you have a regex, and you want to test it -- throwaway script? |
| 16:29 | fbcit | ie when I apply $foo =~ /[ ,].*$/ what is the regex returning for any given $foo |
| 16:30 | gmcharlt | i.e., what string it's matching? |
| 16:30 | fbcit | ie something like http://www.regexbuddy.com/ |
| 16:31 | yes | |
| 16:31 | specifically that is | |
| 16:33 | gmcharlt | fbcit: you could use $& to see what was matched |
| 16:33 | but note that this should never appear in production code -- according to man perlvar, it causes a performance penalty | |
| 16:34 | fbcit | right |
| 16:34 | I'm looking for the equiv of sed -n -e '/foo/p' | |
| 16:34 | I think that's it | |
| 16:34 | I'm looking for the equiv of sed -n -e '/foo/p /foobar.txt' | |
| 16:34 | I'm looking for the equiv of sed -n -e '/foo/p' /foobar.txt | |
| 16:34 | even | |
| 16:37 | gmcharlt: tnx that does exactly what I wanted it to | |
| 16:37 | gmcharlt | you're welcome |
| 16:43 | fbcit | kados: are there a fixed number and nomenclature of zebra keywords? |
| 16:43 | kados | it's configurable |
| 16:43 | fbcit | :( |
| 16:44 | kados | nozebra searching is supposed to suck ... |
| 16:44 | if that's any consolation :-) | |
| 16:44 | that's why we switched to zebra :-) | |
| 16:49 | owen | Merry Christmas Eve, #koha |
| 16:54 | fbcit | Merry Christmas Eve owen |
| 16:55 | gmcharlt | hi owen |
| 16:56 | owen | So I'm not the only one thinking about Koha today? :) |
| 16:59 | gmcharlt | owen: no, just can't tear ourselves away :) |
| 17:03 | fbcit | a NoZebra title search on 'Alexander the Great (NF)' results in a search limited by non-fiction... |
| 17:04 | NZanalyse has some serious problems methinks. | |
| 17:04 | and lunch. | |
| 17:05 | kados | hehe |
| 17:05 | hey owen | |
| 17:05 | owen: working on 670 today | |
| 17:06 | owen | A timeless classic. |
| 17:07 | I thought sometime we ought to talk in detail about the advanced search form. | |
| 17:07 | kados | owen: sure |
| 17:09 | owen: I'm thinking a mix between worldcat.org and google.com 's advanced searches | |
| 17:09 | maybe what we should do is have two separate templates | |
| 17:09 | one 'clean' and one 'traditional' | |
| 17:10 | (traditional woudl have boolean, all the subtype limits, etc.) | |
| 17:10 | owen | A simplified one for the general public, and a complex one for librarians and die-hards |
| 17:10 | kados | even better |
| 17:11 | so basically it's just a matter of skinning opac-results.tmpl | |
| 17:11 | owen | Results? |
| 17:11 | kados | oops |
| 17:11 | opac-advsearch.tmpl | |
| 18:49 | fbcit | gmcharlt: if I put Koha 3 into production w/installer->standard |
| 18:49 | is updating just a matter of running installer again w/same options? | |
| 18:49 | ie non-git | |
| 18:50 | kados | yea |
| 18:50 | so long as you haven't modifed any files in the tree | |
| 18:50 | install tree I mean | |
| 18:51 | it would be worth testing though | |
| 18:51 | if it overwrites the files | |
| 18:51 | ie, make a change and see if it overwrites the file | |
| 18:51 | long-term of course, we want to be all fancy, back up the user's install, warn them, force them to sign in blood before upgrading, etc. :-) | |
| 18:51 | fbcit | right :-) |
| 18:52 | I'm mainly wanting to get on with my production install while keeping up with changes | |
| 18:53 | before beginning | |
| 18:53 | kados | hehe |
| 18:56 | fbcit | kados: is there a way to get apt-get to tell what has been installed? |
| 19:14 | gmcharlt | fbcit: should work as long as you haven't been playing with timestamps in your production tree |
| 19:27 | fbcit | hrmm |
| 19:27 | kados | |
| 19:27 | Errors were encountered while processing: | |
| 19:27 | libxml-sax-perl | |
| 19:27 | libxml-libxml-perl | |
| 19:27 | libxml-libxslt-perl | |
| 19:27 | libxml-simple-perl | |
| 19:27 | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) | |
| 19:28 | using 'dpkg --set-selections < install_misc/debian.packages' | |
| 19:28 | ok | |
| 19:29 | yup | |
| 19:29 | kados | that's gonna be problematic |
| 19:29 | I should add anote to the install doc | |
| 19:29 | libxml is really a problem! | |
| 19:29 | someome oughta fix it :-) | |
| 19:30 | basically, you want to run the package maintainer's versions of libxlm2 and libxxml-libxlm-perl (and associated) | |
| 19:30 | because they are compatible | |
| 19:30 | the cpan version isn't compatible with debian etch's version fo libxlm2 (C) | |
| 19:35 | s/bib/big/ | |
| 19:37 | fbcit | kados: I added a note to README.debian you want the patch direct? |
| 19:38 | gmcharlt | kados: now have bulkmarcimport.pl converting from MARC-8 to UTF-8 correctly |
| 19:45 | kados | awesome |
| 19:45 | fbcit: you can route it through patches@ if it's non-critical | |
| 19:45 | gmcharlt: what was the trick? | |
| 19:45 | gmcharlt | basically, forcing use of NFC |
| 19:46 | kados | oh, interesting |
| 19:46 | did you find that bit of code .../me can't remember where I hid it :-) | |
| 19:46 | Record.pm maybe? | |
| 19:46 | gmcharlt | that gets the german example displaying in Firefox correctly |
| 19:46 | kados | _entity_encode |
| 19:46 | in Record.pm | |
| 19:46 | FWIW | |
| 19:47 | y'know, I think there's a problem with firefox on OSX | |
| 19:47 | for certain fonts | |
| 19:47 | but maybe your NFC fixes that ... | |
| 19:48 | gmcharlt | yeah, ran into something saying the Arial does not handle characters with decomposed diacritics correctly |
| 19:48 | hence why NFC helps | |
| 19:48 | kados | I always check with safari |
| 19:48 | cool | |
| 19:48 | it'd be good to document that | |
| 19:48 | http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]ncodingscratchpad | |
| 19:48 | is as good a place as any | |
| 19:49 | Web Browser section | |
| 19:50 | gmcharlt: so you convert to NFC before import? | |
| 19:50 | gmcharlt | yes -- I revived the fMARC8toUTF8 functin that someone (thd?) had started |
| 19:51 | it's bulkmarcimport only, for now | |
| 19:51 | kados | *nod* |
| 19:59 | gmcharlt | icky, icky -- prior to this change, biblioitems.marc would be left in MARC-8 but biblioitems.marcxml would be in UTF-8 (presumably because MARC::File::XML was doing an automatic character conversion when the XML was generated) |
| 19:59 | kados | ok, here's an SQL question gmcharlt ... say I have the cn_sort value from one item, and I want to find the two before and after ? |
| 19:59 | yea, that's messy | |
| 20:00 | gmcharlt | select cn_sort from item where cn_sort <= X limit 2? |
| 20:00 | select cn_sort from item where cn_sort <= X order by cn_sort desc limit 2? | |
| 20:01 | kados | brilliant, thanks |
| 20:02 | gmcharlt: I notice there's no imposed uniqueness on cn_sort, is that on purpose? | |
| 20:03 | gmcharlt | yes -- can't guarantee it, since nothing prevents a library from having duplicate call numbers |
| 20:03 | i.e., a lot of small public libraries don't insist on uniqueness | |
| 20:03 | they're probably a bit misguided IMO, but that's the practice | |
| 20:03 | kados | :) |
| 20:04 | gmcharlt | false_economy-- |
| 20:04 | kados | I guess it means there's no way to truly identify shelf order |
| 20:04 | unless we just 'fake it' | |
| 20:04 | gmcharlt | kados: yeah, you pretty much have to fake it, at least in the general case |
| 20:05 | a library could provide lots of specific info about which location codes correspond to which physical shelves, but that's not an instant thing to implement | |
| 20:05 | kados | *nod* |
| 20:06 | gmcharlt | although a feature to ease management of such library maps would be nice (and distinctive) |
| 20:07 | kados | *nod* |
| 20:08 | VM acting up again ... :/ | |
| 21:03 | fbcit | Merry Christmas koha. |
| 21:04 | gmcharlt | Merry Christmas fbcit |
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