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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 15:14 | fbcit-1 | g'morning koha |
| 16:37 | kados: u around? | |
| 16:38 | chris ? | |
| 16:38 | kados | hey fbcit-1 |
| 16:38 | fbcit-1: sup? | |
| 16:38 | fbcit-1 | hey kados |
| 16:38 | are we using YAZ++ | |
| 16:39 | kados | nope |
| 16:39 | fbcit-1 | PHP? |
| 16:39 | kados | just plain ole yaz |
| 16:39 | nope, no php in core koha | |
| 16:39 | fbcit-1 | where to get the Win32 then? |
| 16:39 | kados | there are some php extensions for koha at contribus.koha.org |
| 16:39 | hmmm | |
| 16:39 | what do you mean? | |
| 16:39 | fbcit-1 | I'm on the yaz site and only see yaz++ and phpyaz |
| 16:40 | http://indexdata.dk | |
| 16:40 | kados | windows packages you mean, for yaz? |
| 16:40 | cool | |
| 16:40 | http://www.koha.rwjr.com/ | |
| 16:40 | Rob has done quite a bit of work packaging the 2.2 series for windows | |
| 16:40 | and I believe he's included yaz toolkit in his package | |
| 16:41 | I'm not sure how he went about it | |
| 16:41 | but he'd be more than happy (I'm sure) to tell you | |
| 16:41 | he's a really friendly guy :-) | |
| 16:41 | fbcit-1 | I'm working on building an MSI to do it... |
| 16:41 | kados | sweet |
| 16:41 | will that work at all with galen's installer? | |
| 16:42 | fbcit-1 | maybe over time |
| 16:42 | kados | cool |
| 16:42 | is MSI free software? | |
| 16:42 | ie, can we include an MSI in the main koha project? | |
| 16:42 | fbcit-1 | think WIX2 |
| 16:42 | kados | (released under the GPL) |
| 16:42 | honestly, I haven't used windows in like 10 years :-) | |
| 16:43 | fbcit-1 | http://wix.sourceforge.net/man[…]ix2/wix_index.htm |
| 16:43 | kados | cool |
| 16:43 | gmcharlt | fbcit-1: I use Windows more than kados does, but have never written installer for a windows -- will great appreciate any hints about how to make things easier for packagers |
| 16:43 | fbcit-1 | released by M$ into opensource world |
| 16:43 | gmcharlt | and good morning |
| 16:44 | fbcit-1 | morning gmcharlt |
| 16:44 | kados | mornin gmcharlt |
| 16:45 | fbcit-1 | I've not worked much with the windows installer either so am in the learning curve, but I has started about a year ago for another project |
| 16:45 | and picked it up when I found koha | |
| 16:46 | kados | it'd be great to have packages for all the major OSes |
| 16:46 | Debian .deb, Red Hat, OSX .dmg, Windows .exe, etc. | |
| 16:47 | gmcharlt | yep |
| 16:47 | kados | for 3.0 I'll be thrilled to have a generic installer that works reasonably well on linux though :-) |
| 16:47 | fbcit-1 | kados: did'nt you say that the koha win32 port was presently with a proprietary installer? |
| 16:47 | kados | fbcit-1: yes, which is why it's never made it into the koha repo |
| 16:48 | fbcit-1 | gmcharlt: presently I used your installer under cygwin to do a single dir install and then moved it to Program Files... |
| 16:48 | I run strawberry perl on Win32 | |
| 16:48 | gmcharlt | fbcit-1: I was about to ask if anybody had played around with cgywin |
| 16:49 | kados | I think joe has some experience with it though |
| 16:49 | atz around? | |
| 16:51 | gmcharlt | fbcit is multiplying :) |
| 16:51 | fbcit-1_ | gmcharlt: did you get my last? |
| 16:52 | gmcharlt | re cygwin and strawberry perl |
| 16:52 | ? | |
| 16:52 | fbcit-1_ | right and IIS... |
| 16:52 | gmcharlt | didn't get the IIS bit |
| 16:53 | hmm -- do you know if there's any equivalent of mod_perl for IIS? | |
| 16:53 | fbcit-1_ | No. The one site we run on IIS is VB.NET |
| 16:53 | all other sites are PHP on Apache | |
| 16:55 | gmcharlt: I may try changing the pathing syntax in makefile to see if it will install correctly on win32 | |
| 16:56 | if it would, then it would just be a matter of fixing up the apache conf to fit a win32 apache install... I think | |
| 16:56 | the shebang line has to be changed of course, but I have a script that recurses through the dir structure and does that automagically | |
| 16:56 | gmcharlt | great: I started using File::Spec to start getting more platform-agnostic, but I know it's not completely there yet |
| 16:57 | shebang changes need to be put in for Unix anyway: not all distros use /usr/bin/perl | |
| 16:57 | fbcit-1_ | I have found that win32 does not care about the direction of the dir separator, but the root is different as you know. |
| 16:58 | the shebang sub I have could be incorporated into makefile.... | |
| 16:58 | gmcharlt | send me a patch :-) |
| 17:00 | fbcit | making makefile work on win32 would be a bit easier than maintaining a separate .msi installer... |
| 17:01 | it would also be nice to test koha with vanilla and strawberry perl | |
| 17:01 | gmcharlt | fbcit: yep, but I think even better would be to eventually get packaging fully automated for any major platforms (at least for pre-release version; general releases will likely still require manual checking) |
| 17:02 | i.e., download the rpm/deb/dmg/msi/exe of the day | |
| 17:02 | fbcit | I think we must be using yaz++ as perl compiles to c and is able to use c libraries if I remember correctly |
| 17:02 | gmcharlt | also (although not for 3.0) I want to support a 'make upgrade' |
| 17:03 | kados | yea, cool idea |
| 17:04 | fbcit: yaz++ is not the same application as yaz | |
| 17:04 | gmcharlt | fbcit: are you sure? yaz is the C library, yaz++ is the C++ library |
| 17:04 | snap | |
| 17:04 | kados | right |
| 17:04 | more like it's the C++ apy to Yaz, a C library | |
| 17:05 | s/apy/api/ | |
| 17:05 | fbcit | their site is not exactly intuitive... |
| 17:06 | kados: right | |
| 17:06 | gmcharlt | to match an unintuitive protocol at the core of their software ;-) |
| 17:07 | fbcit | you know, the MARC modules installed without complaint under strawberry.... |
| 17:07 | now that yaz is here, let's try zoom... | |
| 17:07 | gmcharlt | good -- I checked http://win32.perl.org/wiki/ind[…]l_Problem_Modules |
| 17:08 | only a couple deps seem to be known problems: GD and POE, primarily | |
| 17:12 | fbcit | seems to be looking for yaz-config which the win32 install does not appear to have... |
| 17:15 | gmcharlt | fbcit: http://lists.indexdata.dk/pipe[…]March/000857.html |
| 17:22 | fbcit | and wishes he had snow rather than rain... |
| 17:23 | kados | fbcit: note: galen's installer hasn't been added to the main repo yet ... just wanted to make sure you were editing the right one :-) |
| 18:30 | fbcit | - If you are new to this distribution, then you should use the ZOOM |
| 18:30 | API, and ignore the others. It is the cleanest, most elegant and | |
| 18:30 | intuitive, and most closely follows the letter as well as the spirit | |
| 18:30 | of the Abstract ZOOM API as specified at http://zoom.z3950.org/api/ | |
| 18:31 | - You should definitely not use the Net::Z3950::ZOOM API, which is not | |
| 18:31 | object-oriented, and instead provides the thinnest possible layer on | |
| 18:31 | top of the ZOOM-C functions in the YAZ toolkit. This API exists | |
| 18:32 | only in order to have ZOOM API built on top of it. | |
| 18:47 | gmcharlt_away | fbcit: two notes about that: Koha uses ZOOM.pm, but that module is bundled with Net::Z3950::ZOOM |
| 18:48 | second, trying to do cpan> install ZOOM doesn't work -- you have to pick up all of Net::Z3950::ZOOM | |
| 20:09 | fbcit | gmcharlt_away:install ZOOM gets Net::Z3950::ZOOM as it turns out. |
| 20:10 | Makefile.PL is commented for changes needed to compile on Win32, but it looks for yaz.lib as the library rather than yaz3.lib which is what comes with yaz 3.0.x | |
| 20:11 | I sent an email to the author of the ZOOM module with the errors dmake spits out. It may be that I need an earlier ver of yaz. | |
| 23:50 | pecisk | hi people, anyone with expierence of setting up Koha on Ubuntu Dapper? |
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