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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 11:49 | fbcit | kados:Do I understand right: mysql 'enum' type simply limits a column to one of several pre-defined options? |
| 11:56 | kados | fbcit: yes |
| 12:00 | fbcit: just so you know, I think there have been a couple changes to the db since you started | |
| 12:00 | fbcit: maybe just one ... but you should be able to rebase and catch those | |
| 12:01 | fbcit: http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gi[…]?p=Koha;a=summary | |
| 12:01 | fbcit: http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gi[…]2eceaa74f;hb=HEAD | |
| 12:02 | hdl: are you here? | |
| 12:02 | paul_away: ? | |
| 12:03 | hdl: I'm having trouble with the patches to additem.pl/tmpl | |
| 12:05 | fbcit | kados: I'll take a look. tnx |
| 12:11 | hdl | hi dados |
| 12:11 | hi kados | |
| 12:11 | kados | hi hdl |
| 12:11 | hdl | what problem fo you have ? |
| 12:11 | kados | it's easiest to show you |
| 12:12 | try to edit or add an item at the URL I sent you | |
| 12:12 | when you edit, all the fields will disappear | |
| 12:12 | when you try to add, you won't be able to save the record | |
| 12:13 | I attached a note to the bug specifying the specific patch it was | |
| 12:13 | http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gi[…]c0a74e3a4d9a575ee | |
| 12:16 | ansius | hi there! |
| 12:17 | kados | hi ani |
| 12:17 | ansius I mean :-) | |
| 12:19 | ansius | a dum question, wich distro of linux would be the best for koha, i have had trouble with all of them... :( |
| 12:19 | a dum question, wich distro of linux would be the best for koha, i have had trouble with all of them... :( | |
| 12:20 | ok, debian how did you manage tu get mysql 4.1 runing, i have been triing that for 2 days | |
| 12:20 | ok, debian how did you manage tu get mysql 4.1 runing, i have been triing that for 2 days | |
| 12:20 | kados | well, I run Koha on mysql 5 |
| 12:21 | the package maintainer hasn't released a 2.2.10 with all the mysql 5 support | |
| 12:21 | but it's all there in CVS | |
| 12:22 | ansius | oho, so the 2.2.10 is in dev section? |
| 12:22 | good news! :D | |
| 12:22 | good news! :D | |
| 12:22 | kados | 2.2.10 hasn't been released and the package maintainer has said he won't have time to create it |
| 12:22 | ansius | good news! :D |
| 12:23 | kados | but you can bug him :-) his name is Paul Poulain :-) |
| 12:25 | ansius | dumer question, how to get it form there... |
| 12:26 | fbcit | masonj: in z3950servers.position and type will a datatype of varchar(10) be sufficient? pg lacks an 'enum' type... |
| 12:26 | masonj: so I'm using a constraint to do the same thing. | |
| 12:27 | kados | fbcit: mason is in NZ, so probably asleep if he know's what's good for him :-) |
| 12:28 | fbcit: position is just a numeric value defining the order to search the server | |
| 12:28 | fbcit: type varchar(10) will be fine | |
| 12:30 | the_ansius | ok now i can talk, git mIRC running |
| 12:30 | fbcit | kados: so code referring to this field looks at the index rather than the value? |
| 12:31 | kados | fbcit: hmmm, to be honest I'm not sure |
| 12:32 | the_ansius | im no linux expert (except the typical LAMP setups), and have had trouble with getiing koha runing on various distributions. |
| 12:32 | ubuntu was before my choice | |
| 12:33 | fbcit | kados: It will make a difference in how I handle it in pg. Reading in the mysql man indicates either value or index can be accessed w/SELECT. |
| 12:33 | the_ansius | but no AMD64 didnt like mysql-4.1 |
| 12:33 | fbcit | kados: So, who to ask? |
| 12:33 | kados | the_ansius: it's likely the trouble wasn't related to koha, but one of the dependencies |
| 12:34 | the_ansius | jap i know, but i vasnt able to solve them :( |
| 12:34 | kados | fbcit: hmmm |
| 12:34 | fbcit: value shuld be fine | |
| 12:36 | fbcit | kados: ok. I'll go that direction then. |
| 12:39 | kados: It appears that pg 8.3 will have enums. | |
| 12:39 | kados | sweet |
| 12:43 | ansius | another dumb question what is 'http://download.savannah.nongn[…]oha-2.3.0.tar.gz' and will it work with mySQL5 ? |
| 12:43 | kados | ansius: no, that is a developer's pre-release |
| 12:43 | you don't want that :-) | |
| 12:44 | ansius | ok, so hwre can I get 2.2.10 |
| 12:45 | kados | ansius: you can bug the package maintainer to release it :-) |
| 12:46 | ansius | i gues that i will not be able to bug him so much to get it asap, cos client want to see something by tomorrow morning (UTC +3) |
| 12:47 | kados | ansius: ahh, you're doing this for a client? a library I suppose? |
| 12:48 | ansius | a school one |
| 12:49 | kados | cool |
| 12:49 | ansius | they didn't want to pay for something like a software, good that they at least bought server |
| 12:49 | mostly i work with web/php/ drupal cms stuff | |
| 12:59 | is ther any other way without bugging anyone too much to get a 2.2.10 version? | |
| 13:01 | kados | ansius: perhaps |
| 13:01 | ansius: http://www.kohadocs.org/Updating_Koha.html | |
| 13:02 | ansius: you can run off of CVS | |
| 13:02 | the rel_2_2 branch | |
| 13:08 | ansius | i'll try, thanks! |
| 14:28 | owen | foxnorth, you around? |
| 14:29 | kados | owen: he's on a call atm, should be back soon |
| 14:34 | owen: go learn javascript! :-) | |
| 14:35 | owen | No, that was the YUI guys ;) |
| 14:35 | kados | heh |
| 14:38 | Frederic | Hi, |
| 14:38 | circ/memberentry.pl is broken in git repository. | |
| 14:38 | http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gi[…]03a2571e3;hb=HEAD | |
| 14:38 | Lines: 44 50 115 etc | |
| 14:43 | hdl | Can you detail ? |
| 14:45 | Frederic | Line 44, you get: |
| 14:45 | <<<<<<< HEAD:members/memberentry.pl | |
| 14:45 | which isn't perlish. Etc. | |
| 14:54 | hdl | This looks like you had a merge problem |
| 14:58 | Frederic | Yes. But the merging issue occurs into the git repository. |
| 14:58 | I've done a fresh 'git clone' and get the brocken circ/memberentry.pl file. | |
| 15:15 | kados | Frederic: you're right! |
| 15:21 | Frederic: OK, I pushed up a fix | |
| 15:21 | sorry about that! | |
| 15:30 | Frederic | Great. It works! Thanks. A simple 'get pull' and I get back a working memberentry.pl. |
| 15:30 | Except that x right access wasn't set properly. Had to do chmod 755... | |
| 15:31 | kados | ahh, right |
| 16:19 | paul | hello world |
| 16:20 | I have found git-send-email again. It's in a specific package on mandriva 2008 ;-) | |
| 16:20 | sending 4 patches to chris now ! | |
| 16:23 | kados | paul: patches to additem? :-) |
| 16:23 | paul | yep kados |
| 16:23 | kados | w00t |
| 16:23 | paul: can you cc me, I'd like to test them | |
| 16:24 | paul | done |
| 16:24 | kados | thx |
| 16:25 | paul: I'll test immediately | |
| 16:25 | paul | i'll leave soon (6:30 pm here) |
| 16:28 | kados | paul: this patch doesnt' seem to fix the problems with additem that I'm experiencing |
| 16:29 | paul | which one ? |
| 16:29 | (it fixes only duplicate barcode) | |
| 16:38 | kados | hdl, paul ... if we can't resolve the issues with additem today I'm going to revert patch 8bdc7f83acaf471ac9e14c7c0a74e3a4d9a575ee |
| 16:38 | just to ensure that additem works in mainline git | |
| 16:38 | I just tested reverting and it works 'on the surface' | |
| 16:38 | paul | cant this just wait until monday ? |
| 16:38 | (update from .008 to .010 is very long for me...) | |
| 16:39 | kados | well, it's been 48 hours with additem broken so I think i should just revert it if there's not an easy fix |
| 16:40 | otherwise additem doesn't work at all in git :/ | |
| 16:40 | monday is too long I'm afraid | |
| 16:42 | it's my fault for not catching this _before_ it was pushed up :-) | |
| 16:42 | paul | the Check function is supposed to check that all existing mandatory fields are working. |
| 16:42 | it seems it uses the "old" marc editor structure (with field_values) | |
| 16:43 | and not the new one. | |
| 16:43 | just "return 1;" after the function declaration, and you should be able to validate an item (can't test, update still not finished on my computer) | |
| 16:44 | sh...t "internalt server error" ... | |
| 16:44 | the process was too long. | |
| 16:44 | kados | updatedatabase_over_http-- ;-) |
| 16:44 | paul | this will probably be a major problem: if the update is too long, then Apache kill the process |
| 16:45 | I have to leave now, Nathan is back after 1 week away. | |
| 16:45 | bye & good week end to everybody. | |
| 16:45 | kados | bye paul |
| 16:56 | hdl | kados you reverted ? |
| 17:15 | kados | hdl: haven't pushed it up to main git |
| 17:15 | hdl: why, have you solved the probs? :-) | |
| 17:15 | hdl | still working on it. |
| 17:22 | damaged in field list (items table) Is this yours ? | |
| 17:22 | database structure not uptodate | |
| 17:29 | kados | maybe you didn't run updatedatabase? |
| 17:32 | hdl | Yes I did. |
| 17:32 | bbsoon | |
| 17:32 | lunch time | |
| 17:45 | kados | wow, late lunch :-) |
| 18:03 | hdl | sorry dinner |
| 18:44 | fbcit | Is there any particular reason that aqbudget.startdate is defaulted to 0? Since it is a date type could it be defaulted to the current date? |
| 18:44 | kados | it should default to NULL |
| 18:44 | fbcit: thanks, I'll update kohastructure.sq | |
| 18:44 | l | |
| 18:44 | fbcit | startdate date NOT NULL default 0 |
| 18:44 | kados | yea, that's just mental |
| 18:45 | should be startdate date default NULL | |
| 18:45 | fbcit | tnx |
| 18:53 | hdl | kados : patch sent. |
| 18:55 | There still is a little problem on duplicate subfield But it is more a display problem than and data | |
| 18:56 | kados | hdl: thanks, I'll take a look |
| 20:09 | fbcit | I'm off for the weekend..... |
| 20:34 | kados | hi rex |
| 20:34 | rex: how's the weather? :-) | |
| 20:35 | rex | 85 degrees and sunny... like every day :) |
| 20:35 | where in NZ are you? | |
| 20:35 | kados | what brings you to our temperate channel? :-) |
| 20:35 | oh, I'm actually based on Ohio | |
| 20:35 | s/on/in/ | |
| 20:35 | the NZers won't be here today, it's Saturday there :-) | |
| 20:36 | rex | Ah -- I was looking at the server address, not yours. |
| 20:36 | I'm a professor at UH Manoa and our department library is looking at Koha as a solution for our IT needs. | |
| 20:36 | kados | excellent |
| 20:36 | rex | I have some tech background so I thought I'd lurk to get a sense of how active the community is, etc. |
| 20:36 | kados | sure |
| 20:36 | it's pretty active | |
| 20:37 | the commit log is always a useful metric too: | |
| 20:37 | http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gi[…]?p=Koha;a=summary | |
| 20:37 | http://git.koha.org/gitstat/ | |
| 20:37 | rex | yeah. As the chair of the comittee that is looking at 'solutions' t our IT needs I can't be too partisan, but on the whole I'm sympathetic to F/OSS solutions |
| 20:37 | kados | sure |
| 20:38 | rex | I guess our main concern is that Koha is too Drupal like -- i.e. useful only if you already know how to write it from scratch ;P |
| 20:39 | kados | well, I don't know much about your needs, a lot has to do with what you're planning to use it for, how large the collection is, who will be using it, etc. |
| 20:40 | rex | yes. Actually we should figure out how large our collection is. |
| 20:40 | kados | ie, if you're looking for a way to keep track of a couple hundred books, might be better off looking at something like librarything or something |
| 20:40 | rex | I mean... the room its in is large... |
| 20:40 | kados | koha is really designed for an active library |
| 20:40 | that has at least cursory understanding of the basic modules and standards in place | |
| 20:41 | large_rooms++ :-) | |
| 20:41 | rex | yeah. people are afraid of LIbrary Thing for some reason. |
| 20:41 | kados | hehe |
| 20:41 | well, Tim Spalding's a great guy | |
| 20:41 | rex | you know how it is -- people only trust solutions where they're paying someone something. Otherwise they think it is either 'broken' or 'stealing their information' |
| 20:42 | kados | huh ... well that's an easy fix :-) |
| 20:42 | http://koha.org/support/pay.html | |
| 20:42 | there are companies that will offer turnkey solutions, even hosting, for Koha | |
| 20:43 | rex | Yeah it will be nice to have a spectrum of pay/free options |
| 20:43 | At this point I think it looks like this: we have >5K books, I'd reckon. We want a searchable catalog online. | |
| 20:44 | kados | rex: http://liblime.com/products/koha/koha-classic |
| 20:44 | rex | We want a proper database, populated hopefully w/MARC records we pull down |
| 20:44 | kados | that's my recommendation :-) |
| 20:44 | </vendorbias> :-) | |
| 20:44 | rex | yes I think some other memebrs of the committee have been looking at that |
| 20:45 | we have an OSX box we can install Koha on, so hosting is probably not for us. | |
| 20:46 | I guess this means if we were to go for a liblime solution it would be 'basic' eh? | |
| 20:46 | kados | yup |
| 20:47 | but not sure we'd support it on OSX | |
| 20:47 | rex | yeah. And we have no money, really. Might be better to just install ourselves. |
| 20:47 | kados | yep |
| 20:47 | rex | Since becoming a prof I feel a bit out of it techwise. |
| 20:47 | kados | there is a guide somewhere for OSX install |
| 20:47 | did you run across that? | |
| 20:47 | rex | might be nice to keep my hand in. |
| 20:47 | kados | someone posted to the list recently |
| 20:48 | rex | yeah. THere's a lot of docs. Apaprently getting the Z3259 (or whatever the protocol is called) client up is a bit of a pain. |
| 20:48 | 39.50 | |
| 20:49 | kados: is LibLime's Keystone suite a flavor of Greenstone? | |
| 20:53 | kados | no ... it's an Index Data product |
| 20:53 | indexdata.dk/keystone i think | |
| 20:54 | we're also going to be supporting Kete: http://horowhenua.kete.net.nz/ | |
| 20:54 | which is another digital library system | |
| 20:56 | rex | heh. All these Polynesian names. |
| 20:57 | chris | thats cos they come from Aotearoa :) |
| 20:57 | rex | heh -- they all look like mispelled Hawai'ian to me :D |
| 20:58 | chris | Hawai'ian looks like mispelled Maori to me :-) |
| 20:58 | rex | we had different missionaries, apparently :) |
| 20:58 | chris | ps, tell your football teams to stop stealing our haka :-) |
| 20:58 | rex | don't get me started. |
| 20:58 | chris | hehe |
| 20:59 | rex | that is not only totally disrespectful to Maori but it is also totally clueless about kana 'oiwi people here as well. |
| 20:59 | *kanaka | |
| 21:00 | chris | yeah, im with you there |
| 21:00 | rex | kados: just for the record, can you give me a ballpark on what the Koha classic woudl be costwise (you can msg me privately if you don't want to put it on channel). |
| 21:00 | oof. Don't get me started. Honestly. | |
| 21:03 | chris | my sister has been to Hawaii a bit, she works as a researcher for a school of medicine here, in the indigenous health area |
| 21:03 | ive yet to visit though ... maybe ud like some Koha training? :-) | |
| 21:03 | rex | we probably have some small world connections then |
| 21:04 | heh -- I'll let you know. | |
| 21:04 | she may know Kalani Brady... but I think he might just be an indigenous doctor. | |
| 21:05 | albeit a healthy one. | |
| 21:05 | chris | :-) |
| 21:05 | ill ask next time i see her, shes at some conference at the moment | |
| 21:05 | donna cormack | |
| 21:05 | is her name | |
| 21:06 | rex | they have a different campus than the one I'm on |
| 21:06 | chris | http://www.nzma.org.nz/journal/119-1231/1917/ <--- she does this kinda stuff |
| 21:08 | rex | ah. |
| 21:08 | chris | annoying the government by pointing out disparities in funding .. and unequal outcomes etc :) |
| 21:08 | rex | yeah. |
| 21:09 | I guess you have to keep doing that over and over again even if its already been demonstrated for like decades and decades | |
| 21:09 | chris | yeah |
| 21:10 | sad but true | |
| 21:11 | ok, time to take the family out for some brunch, ttyl | |
| 21:14 | rex | cu |
| 21:30 | chris | heh, i have no idea why i think i can make plans with an 11 month old ... while i was in the shower he has fallen asleep on his mum, who in turn has fallen asleep |
| 21:30 | so brunch is postponed | |
| 21:34 | kados | hehe |
| 00:32 | atz | members/memberentry.pl still seems to be messed up in git repo. |
| 01:59 | thd | ping kados |
| 07:17 | ansius | hi again, i'm still in the same place. ok I got the cvs rel_2_2 koha, but i have no idea how to set it up, or i can use this one to fix installer so it would work with mysql5? |
| 09:15 | bugging again, i'm still in the same place. ok I got the cvs rel_2_2 koha, but i have no idea how to set it up, or i can use this one to fix installer so it would work with mysql5? | |
| 09:34 | bugging again could anyone please help to get koha-2.2.10 or help to somehow set it up with mysql5 ? | |
| 10:59 | bugging again could anyone please help to get koha-2.2.10 or help to somehow set koha up with mysql5 ? |
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