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| Time | Nick | Message | 
|---|---|---|
| 13:24 | kados | g'morning #koha | 
| 15:27 | thd | kados: what should the plugin name be for 952 $f Coded location qualifier | 
| 15:28 | ? | |
| 15:28 | kados | hmmm | 
| 15:28 | locationqualifier.pl | |
| 15:29 | thd | kados: should that be marc21_locationqualifier.pl? | 
| 15:29 | kados | sure | 
| 15:30 | wasn't there a subfield reserved for linking one item to another? | |
| 15:30 | (I'm talking abotu one 852 to another 852) | |
| 15:31 | thd | kados: If anyone were ever using it the OPAC should use the values in 952 $f to generate a plain language statement interpreting the code for record display | 
| 15:31 | kados: why would you join 2 852s? | |
| 15:32 | kados | I don't know, I just thought I remembered that | 
| 15:32 | thd | or do you mean join 852, 86X, and 876-8? | 
| 15:34 | kados | ahh, yes, nevermine | 
| 15:34 | we'll do that in 3.2 | |
| 15:34 | thd | kados: for joining multiple holdings fields for the same item copy number $t is usually used | 
| 15:35 | kados: $6 or $8 are used in more complex serials cases | |
| 15:35 | kados | thd: here's our TODO list: | 
| 15:35 | THD: add authorized value DPT to items.location | |
| 15:35 | THD: add plugin bookseller.pl to items.booksellerid | |
| 15:35 | THD: fix items.dateassessioned (put dateaccessioned.pl in plugin column) | |
| 15:35 | THD: add marc21_locationqualifier.pl to 952 $f | |
| 15:35 | THD: add classcodes.pl to 952 $2 | |
| 15:35 | JMF: create marc21_locationqualifier.pl plugin | |
| 15:35 | JMF: create classcodes.pl plugin | |
| 15:35 | JMF: create authorized value for STACK | |
| 15:35 | JMF: fix wthdrawn in koha db and code | |
| 15:37 | thd | kados: should that not be CLASSCODES authorised value or can it not be because the values could then only be a code without explanation? | 
| 15:38 | kados | lets do it as an authorized value for now | 
| 15:38 | you're right | |
| 15:38 | thd | kados: can they have explanation? | 
| 15:38 | oh I forgot they are supposed to show the edition so they need a plugin | |
| 15:39 | kados | hmmm | 
| 15:39 | that is a bit too complicated | |
| 15:39 | thd | ie edition of the classification | 
| 15:39 | kados | yea, but how would I know what editions exist? | 
| 15:39 | thd | ask me | 
| 15:40 | DDC is currently at 22 | |
| 15:40 | 21 is still in common use | |
| 15:41 | kados | the list os quite long | 
| 15:41 | we won't have time to check all of them | |
| 15:41 | I think we'll have to be satisfied with an authorized value for now | |
| 15:42 | thd | kados, but edition is more important than that list of classifications for your customers | 
| 15:42 | kados | edition of the classification? | 
| 15:42 | thd | yes | 
| 15:42 | kados | so it would be ddc22 ? | 
| 15:43 | thd | format is a little different | 
| 15:43 | kados | what ist he format? | 
| 15:45 | msdocs/1975 | |
| 15:45 | The code may be followed by the edition or date of publication of the source work. The code is separated from the edition or date by a slash (/). Omission of the year or edition will imply that the assigning institution used the most recent edition of the source work available. | |
| 15:46 | thd: fine, we can do it as a plugin | |
| 15:48 | thd | kados: actually edition might only be used for $2 in 0XX where it is called edition because the field usually indicates classification already but that sees a little inconsistent | 
| 15:48 | kados | if we do it as a plugin, it's easy to manupulate | 
| 15:48 | so lets do it as a plugin | |
| 15:49 | thd: here's our TODO: | |
| 15:49 | THD: add authorized value DPT to items.location | |
| 15:49 | THD: add plugin bookseller.pl to items.booksellerid | |
| 15:49 | THD: fix items.dateassessioned (put dateaccessioned.pl in plugin column) | |
| 15:49 | THD: add marc21_locationqualifier.pl to 952 $f | |
| 15:49 | THD: add marc21_classcodes.pl authorized value to 952 $2 | |
| 15:49 | THD: describe lcc vs ddc behavior | |
| 15:49 | thd | kados: I believe that I have seen edition included as 852 $2 ddc; 21 | 
| 15:50 | kados | *noted* | 
| 15:52 | thd: 'Call Number Prefix' . 'Classification Part' . 'Call Number Suffix' . 'Copy Number' | |
| 15:52 | thd: is that the appropriate concatenation of those elements? | |
| 15:52 | thd | kados: some documentation can only be found in circulars from LC where questions about ambiguities or inconsistencies in the standard documentation are answered | 
| 15:53 | you are missing item part after the classification part | |
| 15:53 | kados | ahh, right | 
| 15:53 | and that works the same way in lcc and ddc? | |
| 15:54 | thd | kados: I already wrote a Perl script for that which I used for Afognak | 
| 15:54 | kados | ok, can you send it to me? | 
| 15:54 | thd | yes | 
| 15:54 | kados | thx | 
| 16:01 | thd: I'm adding items.damaged | |
| 16:01 | thd: so please add that to your list :-) | |
| 16:02 | thd | kados: I was going to put that in $f and remove location qualifier :) | 
| 16:03 | kados: I will remove call number suffix instead | |
| 16:04 | kados | akk | 
| 16:04 | why? | |
| 16:04 | I thought we needed call number suffix | |
| 16:04 | thd | kados: only to the extent we need everything | 
| 16:05 | kados: I have hardly ever noticed call number suffix used in real records | |
| 16:08 | kados | it seems like $8 would be less frequently used in koha | 
| 16:08 | thd | kados: I have never noticed coded location qualifier but that seems much more useful to know how many recent years/months/issues of a serial are kept at the serials desk | 
| 16:08 | kados: yes $8 would never be used in Koha except for preserving previous use | |
| 16:08 | kados | or $3 | 
| 16:09 | I think we should remove those from 3.0 | |
| 16:09 | simply because they aren't used in koha | |
| 16:09 | thd | kados $3 is important | 
| 16:09 | kados | but we don't use it | 
| 16:09 | it will be in 3.2 | |
| 16:09 | thd | and would be used by many people | 
| 16:09 | kados | but doesn't belong in 3.0 I don't think | 
| 16:09 | Materials Specified refers to what? | |
| 16:10 | thd | Journal of blabla 852 $3 v. 3-4 $call number $p barcode | 
| 16:11 | maybe I should put the parenthesis explanation back | |
| 16:12 | kados | Materials specified should be linked to items.multivolumenumber | 
| 16:13 | thd | $3 Materials designated (bound volume or other part) | 
| 16:13 | kados | which we removed | 
| 16:13 | thd | $3 Materials specified (bound volume or other part) | 
| 16:13 | kados | we don't handle multi-part items right now | 
| 16:13 | we will in 3.2 | |
| 16:13 | so i think we shoudl remove this from 3.0 | |
| 16:14 | anyway, we're getting distrated :-) | |
| 16:14 | thd | kados: this is not a record relationship issue | 
| 16:14 | kados: understanding this is important | |
| 16:14 | kados | ok | 
| 16:14 | thd | kados: everyone binds serials | 
| 16:14 | kados | so $3 is used to store a human-only textual string | 
| 16:14 | thd | almost everyone | 
| 16:15 | yes | |
| 16:15 | kados | ok, that's fine | 
| 16:15 | thd | so the patron/librarian knows what that is for | 
| 16:16 | kados | ok, so we'll leave that in, and I've got a note to look into that when we do binding for serials | 
| 16:16 | so the issue is, where do we put items.damaged | |
| 16:16 | thd | kados: it could also be used to designate a CD separately from the book with an empty back pocket all for the CD but all in the same record | 
| 16:16 | kados | sure | 
| 16:17 | thd | $m Call number suffix will go | 
| 16:17 | kados | ok | 
| 16:18 | thd | kados: If you have a customer using call number suffixes then it is probably infrequently and they might temporarily be stored with some delimiter in $z public note | 
| 16:19 | kados | sure | 
| 16:19 | we can alwasy customize it for customers | |
| 16:19 | it's the rest of the community I worry about for 3.0 :-) | |
| 16:19 | thd | :-) | 
| 16:19 | what rest? | |
| 16:20 | developers ? :) | |
| 16:20 | kados | no, I mean the libraries running koha without support | 
| 16:20 | there are far more of those than supported ones | |
| 16:20 | by a factor of 5-6 at least | |
| 16:20 | anyway ... | |
| 16:20 | thd | oh, well they have the mailing list and very friendly people to help | 
| 16:21 | kados | THD: add authorized value DPT to items.location | 
| 16:21 | THD: add plugin bookseller.pl to items.booksellerid | |
| 16:21 | THD: fix items.dateassessioned (put dateaccessioned.pl in plugin column) | |
| 16:21 | THD: add marc21_locationqualifier.pl to 952 $f | |
| 16:21 | THD: add marc21_classcodes.pl authorized value to 952 $2 | |
| 16:21 | THD: describe lcc vs ddc behavior | |
| 16:21 | THD: add mapping for items.damaged | |
| 17:19 | [K] | *** join #koha FreeNode: eloise212 n=aimecs cpe-74-79-243-242.twcny.res.rr.com | 
| 17:40 | ryan | thd: and kados: how about changing DPT to SHELF_LOC ? | 
| 17:41 | DPT isn't hardcoded anymore... | |
| 17:41 | thd | kados: that makes sense to me | 
| 17:42 | kados: do you concur with ryan's suggestion? | |
| 17:43 | kados: I will presume that you concur in the absence of signification otherwise :0 | |
| 17:48 | kados | hi thd | 
| 17:48 | ryan: yea, that' fine | |
| 17:49 | ryan: just that the departments feature in Koha exists | |
| 17:49 | that's where the list comes from | |
| 17:50 | actually, departments seems to be missing now from 3.0 | |
| 17:50 | where did it go? | |
| 17:51 | thd: with SHELF_LOC stored in items.location, what is the purpose of items.stack? | |
| 17:52 | nevermind, it's the coded qualification of that | |
| 17:52 | thd | what is the purpose of SHELF_LOC ? | 
| 17:52 | :0 | |
| 17:52 | kados | i assumed some libraries use Shelving location | 
| 17:52 | like for instance, 'Circ Desk' | |
| 17:53 | or ... 'New Books Shelf' | |
| 17:54 | thd | kados: I believe that shelf.location was already in use by Chis | 
| 17:54 | kados | thd: did you remember that 'Call number' should be 'Koha Call number'? | 
| 17:54 | thd | kados: yes | 
| 17:54 | kados | thd: so are the frameworks finished? | 
| 17:54 | :-) | |
| 17:55 | thd | kados: or maybe Koha full call number would be better | 
| 17:55 | kados | or do you want to explain the lcc and ddc stuff beforehand so I can decide what plugins I'll need? | 
| 17:55 | thd | kados: I was writing an explanation of that in a comment at the beginning of a file with extracted code | 
| 17:56 | kados | excellent | 
| 18:13 | thd: there are still some missing authorized values | |
| 18:13 | thd: items.itemlost => ITEMLOST | |
| 18:14 | items.damaged => DAMAGED | |
| 18:14 | items.notforloan => NOTFORLOAN | |
| 18:15 | thd | kados: when I wrote those originally no one ever told me that there was a values table to report | 
| 18:15 | :) | |
| 18:15 | kados | :-) | 
| 18:16 | that's my fault | |
| 18:18 | thd: can we change the nomenclature a bit? | |
| 18:18 | instead of Item Status (withdrawn) | |
| 18:18 | Withdrawn Status | |
| 18:19 | instead of Item status (lost) | |
| 18:19 | Lost Status | |
| 18:19 | also, please label damaged as Damaged Status | |
| 18:19 | thd | kados: that is not MARC 21 :) | 
| 18:19 | ok | |
| 18:20 | kados | marc21 doesn't define more than one type of Item status :-) | 
| 18:20 | also, where is items.notforloan? | |
| 18:21 | thd | kados: in MARC 21 different status types are stored in a repeatable status field | 
| 18:21 | kados: that would be in restricted | |
| 18:22 | kados | it seems we have both items.restricted and items.notforloan | 
| 18:22 | hmmm | |
| 18:23 | thd | ('952', 'y', 'Use restrictions (not for loan)' | 
| 18:23 | kados | ahh, ok | 
| 18:23 | it doesn't seem to be mapped to items.notforloan, is it? | |
| 18:24 | thd | ('952', 'y', 'Use restrictions (not for loan)', 'Use restrictions (not for loan)', 0, 0, 'items.notforloan', 10, '', '', '', 0, 0, '', '', '', NULL), | 
| 18:24 | kados | ok | 
| 18:24 | thanks | |
| 18:25 | thd | -- ('95k', 'y', 'Use restrictions (not for loan) (similar to 506 $a, 876-8 $h)' | 
| 18:25 | kados | no! | 
| 18:25 | :-) | |
| 18:25 | thd | that was the explanation from the comment :) | 
| 18:26 | kados | it seems items.restricted is used, but I don't see how to set it anywhere | 
| 18:26 | thd | kados: is that not set by a script? | 
| 18:27 | s/a script/in the code/ | |
| 18:27 | kados | it's not set anywhere | 
| 18:27 | but its used in circulation | |
| 18:27 | thd | kados: I assumed that something triggers the setting | 
| 18:28 | kados | no, I don't see any triggers | 
| 18:28 | what would it be good for? | |
| 18:29 | thd | to keep the careless or dishonest from handling the especially fragile or valuable material without close supervision | 
| 18:29 | kados | how does it differ from notforloan? | 
| 18:29 | thd | kados: well they are not equal | 
| 18:30 | kados | why? | 
| 18:30 | thd | kados: reference material might be on an open shelf but not for loan | 
| 18:30 | kados | restricted would be 'OK for adults', 'not OK for children' ? | 
| 18:30 | (or something like that) | |
| 18:31 | thd | kados: restricted material might be in a special climate controlled vault with armed guards :) | 
| 18:31 | kados | hehe | 
| 18:31 | ok, I get it now | |
| 18:31 | give items.restricted an authorized value of RESTRICTED | |
| 18:31 | please | |
| 18:31 | :-) | |
| 18:31 | thd | OK | 
| 18:45 | kados | russel: you really awake? | 
| 19:00 | paul_away | hello new zealand ! | 
| 19:00 | paul | chris around ? | 
| 19:00 | chris | hi paul | 
| 19:01 | paul | I suppose you're happy of the result of australia / england ;) | 
| 19:01 | chris | a little | 
| 19:02 | paul | I would never have bet 0.01€ for this result ! | 
| 19:02 | chris | me either | 
| 19:02 | russel | hiya paul | 
| 19:02 | paul | hiya russel | 
| 19:02 | strange to see all blacks in grey... | |
| 19:03 | my 1st son Simon says hello to you | |
| 19:03 | chris | hehe | 
| 19:03 | hello simon | |
| 19:03 | paul | (simon : hello chris) | 
| 19:04 | kados | hi paul | 
| 19:04 | hi simon :-) | |
| 19:04 | paul | hi kados | 
| 19:04 | you"re looking for the match too ? | |
| 19:04 | kados | hehe, no | 
| 19:06 | chris | ouch | 
| 19:06 | head in the wrong place in that tackle | |
| 19:06 | paul | yep. KO... | 
| 19:06 | what time is it for you exactly ? | |
| 19:06 | chris | 8.06am | 
| 19:09 | paul | ouch... seems really KO. | 
| 19:09 | chris | yeah | 
| 19:11 | paul | not that far... | 
| 19:11 | chris | nope was worth a shot | 
| 19:12 | paul | is it rugby or soccer ?? | 
| 19:12 | chris | hehe finals rugby always lots of kicking | 
| 19:13 | everyone to nervous | |
| 19:17 | hmmm | |
| 19:17 | paul | should do 3-0 | 
| 19:17 | chris | the ref likes to blow the whistle for rucks | 
| 19:18 | paul | (simon says : it's not all blacks, but all greys !) | 
| 19:19 | chris | hehe | 
| 19:19 | paul | (simon laught...) | 
| 19:19 | in french we call that a "cocotte" | |
| 19:20 | when 4-X players advances hidding the ball | |
| 19:20 | n the middle of them | |
| 19:20 | chris | ahh | 
| 19:21 | paul | houhou... | 
| 19:21 | chris | i think he was out | 
| 19:21 | paul | yep | 
| 19:21 | yes... | |
| 19:21 | in french "ouf" ! | |
| 19:23 | 10-0 ! | |
| 19:23 | chris | macalister is playing the best ive seen him | 
| 19:24 | paul | could have choosen another day !!!!! | 
| 19:24 | chris | hehe | 
| 19:25 | paul | the score reflect the play for instance | 
| 19:27 | chris | hmm this stadium has always had bad grass | 
| 19:27 | paul | the TV says one of the all blacks will play in england next year, and thus never more play for all blacks ? | 
| 19:28 | when you leave NZ you can't be all black anymore ??? | |
| 19:28 | chris | yeah | 
| 19:28 | paul | wow, very strict ! | 
| 19:28 | chris | you can come back and play in z | 
| 19:28 | nz | |
| 19:28 | and then become one again | |
| 19:28 | paul | ah, ok | 
| 19:28 | chris | like troy flavel did | 
| 19:29 | so not quite never again, but never if you are old :-) | |
| 19:29 | paul | hi hdl ? | 
| 19:30 | hdl | salut paul. | 
| 19:30 | En train de regarder le match ? | |
| 19:30 | paul | looking for the match ? | 
| 19:30 | yep, of course. | |
| 19:30 | and chatting with chris ;) | |
| 19:30 | chris | hehe | 
| 19:30 | paul | sweet dreams | 
| 19:30 | hdl | I hope the best will win. | 
| 19:31 | seen 5 minutes. | |
| 19:31 | And it seems NZ are really having the hand over the match. | |
| 19:31 | already | |
| 19:31 | paul | yep. but in 99 the match started like that as well | 
| 19:31 | hdl | So Happy chat. | 
| 19:32 | paul | sweet dreams to you | 
| 19:33 | the kiwi was out with the ball. should have be for us. | |
| 19:33 | chris | the officials arent doing so well so far | 
| 19:36 | paul | the ref is right for this | 
| 19:36 | wow... 43m... | |
| 19:36 | chris | right in front | 
| 19:38 | hmm i think maybe michalak for the 2nd half | |
| 19:40 | paul | yellow card ? | 
| 19:41 | could have had one... | |
| 19:42 | 3 "touches" missed... | |
| 19:42 | chris | this is the danger time, just before halftime | 
| 19:43 | paul | oh no ! | 
| 19:44 | kados | what happened? | 
| 19:44 | chris | maybe too nervous? | 
| 19:44 | paul | a french missed a penalty, it's the 2nd one that was not that hard | 
| 19:44 | (although not as easy as possible) | |
| 19:46 | chris | crazy kick | 
| 19:46 | paul | kados : score is 13-0, and a succesful penalty is 3 points | 
| 19:46 | chris | the all blacks have gone mental | 
| 19:46 | paul | crazy kick ! nice word ! | 
| 19:46 | yep. | |
| 19:47 | a new one (crazy kick)... | |
| 19:48 | chris | hehe | 
| 19:48 | paul | then half time | 
| 19:48 | chris | yep | 
| 19:48 | paul | 47m ! | 
| 19:48 | russel | but it is straight | 
| 19:48 | paul | 13-3 | 
| 19:48 | chris | maybe he can kick only hard ones | 
| 19:48 | russel | :-) | 
| 19:48 | paul | lol | 
| 19:48 | russel | man it is a bit stop start | 
| 19:48 | too much kicking | |
| 19:49 | chris | yeah | 
| 19:49 | paul | see you back soon, I go to cook the bread for tomorrow morning | 
| 19:49 | chris | yum | 
| 19:50 | made me hungry for breakfast :) | |
| 19:55 | paul | there is an ad with zinedine zidane playing rugby ! | 
| 19:55 | he makes everything wrong. | |
| 19:55 | very very poor | |
| 19:55 | at the end, he scores a goal with the head & is very happy. | |
| 19:55 | chris | heh | 
| 19:55 | paul | except it's a "soccer goal"... | 
| 19:55 | so the trainer is quite disappointed ! | |
| 20:04 | !!!! | |
| 20:04 | chris | better play from france | 
| 20:04 | paul | yep | 
| 20:05 | 3m | |
| 20:05 | 2m | |
| 20:05 | chris | card i think | 
| 20:05 | paul | in french it's "anti-jeu" | 
| 20:06 | yep. yellow card | |
| 20:09 | in french "un petit pas, un petit tas" | |
| 20:10 | "a small step, a small group" | |
| 20:10 | chris | pick and go in nz | 
| 20:10 | stupid pass | |
| 20:11 | paul | yes, but 3 or 4 minuts left... | 
| 20:11 | kudos to the blacks | |
| 20:11 | chris | yes used up time | 
| 20:12 | paul | szarzesky & chabal should enter soon says the TV | 
| 20:12 | ??? the ball was out already isn't it ? | |
| 20:12 | chris | yeah these officials are crazy | 
| 20:12 | paul | strange referees decisions... | 
| 20:13 | slef | hi all | 
| 20:13 | paul | hi slef | 
| 20:14 | slef | so, who wants to lose to England next? | 
| 20:14 | chris | heh | 
| 20:14 | paul | lol ! | 
| 20:14 | slef | and will this match be won by the referees? | 
| 20:14 | chris | looks like it so far | 
| 20:14 | paul | lol again ! | 
| 20:14 | chris | strange decisions | 
| 20:14 | paul | slef : referees are engladers if i don't mind | 
| 20:15 | slef | shame they have the roof closed... no lights visible from my office (so I'm sat in the lounge) | 
| 20:15 | actually, it's probably too misty to see Cardiff anyway | |
| 20:15 | paul | yeah !!!! | 
| 20:15 | slef | tryyyy | 
| 20:16 | heh, paul cheered before they scored here... I wonder how many satellite hops are involved for the pictures to reach me... maybe 1, maybe 3 | |
| 20:16 | chris | hehe | 
| 20:16 | slef | funny given I have line-of-sight to the stadium | 
| 20:17 | ow, that was close | |
| 20:17 | paul | ... | 
| 20:17 | kados : 13-13 ... | |
| 20:19 | ? the referee has taken a good decision ! | |
| 20:19 | everything happend !! | |
| 20:19 | (probably a frenchism...) | |
| 20:22 | slef | refs: 3 england, 1 safrican, 1 irish...odd mix | 
| 20:22 | paul | 3 englands on the field if I don't mind. dunno which it the TV ref | 
| 20:23 | slef | 2 englands, 1 safrican on the field; tv ref is english | 
| 20:23 | paul: you watching on analogue tv? | |
| 20:23 | paul | yep | 
| 20:23 | slef | that's most of the reason you're faster than me then ;-) | 
| 20:24 | paul | 2055 ! | 
| 20:24 | slef | cycle racing++ | 
| 20:25 | listened fr-nz 2000-2030 on radio though | |
| 20:25 | another try | |
| 20:25 | paul | try ! | 
| 20:25 | chris | try! | 
| 20:25 | slef | did refs see it, though | 
| 20:25 | chris | tv ref must | 
| 20:26 | slef | guess so, from the cheer | 
| 20:26 | paul | another strange descision ? | 
| 20:26 | slef | yikes, the ref only looks 12 | 
| 20:26 | paul | 'from the refs) | 
| 20:26 | chris | how can it take this long | 
| 20:27 | ? | |
| 20:27 | russel | w00t | 
| 20:27 | paul | missed | 
| 20:28 | slef | there is no kiwi wilkinson... | 
| 20:28 | chris | he's subbed off | 
| 20:28 | paul | subbed ??? | 
| 20:28 | russel | evans should be kicking | 
| 20:28 | chris | substituted | 
| 20:30 | paul | yo ! | 
| 20:30 | slef | there is no kiwi flood? | 
| 20:30 | paul | well don ekiwi | 
| 20:30 | & well done froggy as well | |
| 20:30 | chris | yep, 1 more inch | 
| 20:30 | paul | but it was limit.. | 
| 20:31 | (another frenchism i'm afraid...) | |
| 20:31 | slef | hrm, what animal are england rugby? | 
| 20:31 | england football is lions, but lions are british in rugby... | |
| 20:31 | chris | ogre? | 
| 20:31 | :) | |
| 20:31 | slef | lawyers ;-) | 
| 20:31 | chris | hehe | 
| 20:32 | paul | haha | 
| 20:32 | yeah ! | |
| 20:32 | slef | disturbing number of lawyers and military officers in england rugby over the years | 
| 20:32 | paul | yeah ! | 
| 20:32 | yeah ! | |
| 20:32 | yeah ! | |
| 20:32 | slef | wow | 
| 20:32 | out of nothing | |
| 20:32 | chris | forward pass | 
| 20:32 | paul | yep | 
| 20:32 | I think you"re right | |
| 20:32 | just at the beginning | |
| 20:32 | chris | the ref has a lot to answer for | 
| 20:33 | slef | yep | 
| 20:33 | chris | i dont think he will be reffing again | 
| 20:33 | paul | probably | 
| 20:33 | slef | won't be able to - england will be too involved ;-) | 
| 20:33 | paul | france behind ! | 
| 20:33 | slef | er, ahead? | 
| 20:33 | paul | kados : 20-18 | 
| 20:33 | sorry | |
| 20:33 | ahead, right | |
| 20:34 | slef | 10mins to go | 
| 20:34 | ack, called to kitchen | |
| 20:35 | paul | ! | 
| 20:35 | kick of the century ! | |
| 20:36 | chris | momentum shifted to france here | 
| 20:37 | paul | the last 5mn will be loooooonnnnggggg ... | 
| 20:38 | slef | 1 penalty needed | 
| 20:38 | chris | yep | 
| 20:39 | but we dont have our 2 best kickers | |
| 20:39 | paul | do you have a pass counter on your TV ? | 
| 20:39 | chris | no | 
| 20:39 | paul | it's 13th | 
| 20:39 | 14th | |
| 20:39 | 16th | |
| 20:39 | 17th | |
| 20:40 | 19th | |
| 20:40 | chris | cmon | 
| 20:40 | paul | cmon ? | 
| 20:40 | 21th | |
| 20:40 | chris | yelling at the tv | 
| 20:40 | come on nz | |
| 20:41 | paul | ouf !!! | 
| 20:41 | chris | jeez | 
| 20:41 | what is the touch judge doing | |
| 20:41 | slef | smoking pot | 
| 20:41 | chris | hands on the ground | 
| 20:41 | slef | I hear it's easy to get around the stadium | 
| 20:41 | chris | hehe | 
| 20:42 | paul | 2mn to go ... | 
| 20:43 | maybe 3 | |
| 20:45 | chris | :( | 
| 20:45 | paul | ... | 
| 20:45 | chris | well i wont be sending the ref a christmas card | 
| 20:45 | but well played france | |
| 20:46 | paul | yeah !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | 
| 20:47 | france win ! | |
| 20:47 | after 7 misses against blacks. | |
| 20:47 | but i'm not that proud of that victory | |
| 20:47 | chris | i think there will be lots of talk | 
| 20:47 | about the officials | |
| 20:47 | paul | semi final : no more than 1 team of southern hemis | 
| 20:48 | probably the 1st time this happends | |
| 20:48 | chris | argentina and south africa | 
| 20:48 | 2 maybe | |
| 20:49 | paul | I was just counting NZ/AUS/SAF | 
| 20:49 | the 3 best teams in the world | |
| 20:49 | 2 eliminated ! | |
| 20:49 | chris | i think SAF will win from here | 
| 20:50 | slef | nah, eng to retain | 
| 20:50 | ;-) | |
| 20:50 | [K] | *** join #koha FreeNode: ru55el_ n=russel 203-118-134-114.netspace.net.nz | 
| 20:50 | paul | ok, time to go to bed for frenchies. | 
| 20:50 | chris | gnight | 
| 20:51 | paul | (sincerely) | 
| 20:51 | russel | night paul | 
| 20:51 | paul | gday russel | 
| 20:51 | russel | well played france | 
| 20:51 | chris | ill be happy again in a few hours | 
| 20:51 | but it probably cost the nz economy a few million $ | |
| 20:51 | hehe | |
| 20:51 | paul | the TV sing a famous french song : "we all are going to paradise" | 
| 20:52 | "you and me" | |
| 04:48 | Brooke | what's up? | 
| 05:30 | chris | hi hdl | 
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