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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 12:06 | kados | hey hdl |
| 12:07 | hdl: I've received paul's email, unfortunately, I've got a day-long meeting today | |
| 12:07 | I will think about a response and hope to reply tongiht | |
| 12:07 | tonight I mean :-) | |
| 12:08 | hdl | So tomorrow morning, we will receive your answer. |
| 12:08 | kados | one point, the installer is not finished |
| 12:08 | as soon as it is I would be satisfied doing a 'developers' release | |
| 12:08 | even with the templates a bit in flux | |
| 12:09 | hdl | what do you mean by installer not finished ? Is there any hard problem to solve ? |
| 12:10 | kados | really, I think adding the toolbars and views (just a bunch of <li>s) would solve 90% of template changes |
| 12:10 | hdl: have you tried to install Koha 3.0 using the installer? | |
| 12:10 | hdl | In France, we have problems with CGI::Session and accent management. |
| 12:10 | Not yet | |
| 12:10 | kados | accent? |
| 12:10 | hdl | éèà |
| 12:11 | kados | related to CGI::Session? |
| 12:11 | perhaps you're not storing as utf8? | |
| 12:11 | hdl | yes. It seems that table is truncated. |
| 12:11 | yes. It seems that table data is truncated. | |
| 12:11 | No, we are. | |
| 12:11 | kados | so it's a bug of CGI::Session? |
| 12:12 | hdl | I think so. But cannot tell precisely. |
| 12:13 | kados | it affects people's names with accents? |
| 12:14 | hdl: so my initial answer is that when the installer is finished and working I will release a developers version | |
| 12:14 | but it's impossible to release if you can't install Koha! | |
| 12:14 | IMO we also need to reach a concensus in the community about how to update the database | |
| 12:15 | hdl | yes it affects people or data with accents. |
| 12:16 | For instance : Bib. des Sociétés chrétiennes. | |
| 12:16 | And we cannot release if session problem is not definitely understood and fixed. | |
| 12:17 | kados | I agree |
| 12:17 | so we have : | |
| 12:17 | 1. fix installer | |
| 12:17 | 2. decide on how to update the database | |
| 12:17 | 3. fix encoding probs with sessions | |
| 12:17 | hdl | But anyway, basically we think that time has come NOT to fuzzy templates or design any longer. |
| 12:17 | kados | I don't see how improving the templates affects anything |
| 12:18 | issues 1-3 need to be solved | |
| 12:19 | there was a good post from a koha community member | |
| 12:19 | I'll try to find it | |
| 12:22 | slef has responded to paul's questions re: installer | |
| 12:28 | morning owen | |
| 12:28 | owen | Hi kados |
| 12:28 | kados | owen: looking at your example |
| 12:28 | I like it! | |
| 14:32 | hdl | owen ? |
| 14:32 | dewey | i think owen is hardly ever in direct contact with kados. We communicate here. |
| 14:32 | owen | Hi hdl |
| 14:32 | paul | hi owen |
| 14:32 | hdl | hi how are you ? |
| 14:32 | owen | I am well, thank you |
| 14:32 | hdl | I was wondering if you use subscription-add.pl |
| 14:33 | with New Zealand stuff for numbering pattern. | |
| 14:33 | owen | I have tested it |
| 14:34 | hdl | Did you like it ? |
| 14:34 | owen | It seemed to work well. Since I've never used it in actual practice I'm not a good judge |
| 15:26 | paul | owen : about the reserves. |
| 15:27 | use case = I reserve a book that is available at my branch and I "reserve this item" | |
| 15:27 | after placing the reserve, what should appear in request.pl ? | |
| 15:27 | actually it's "document waiting at ..." | |
| 15:28 | which is partially correct & partially uncorrect | |
| 15:28 | the librarians have not picked it up in the shelves, but it's available if the patron goes to the library | |
| 15:28 | (i've added a systempref that seems to work well, except for this. | |
| 15:28 | if you want to test : | |
| 15:28 | http://i15.bureau.paulpoulain.[…]/koha/mainpage.pl | |
| 15:29 | (abel / abel) | |
| 15:29 | owen | More accurate would be "Waiting to be pulled" or "Waiting to be retrieved" |
| 15:29 | paul | search "chaos" in catalogue & request one of the book at the end of the list |
| 15:29 | (search for "test" patron) | |
| 15:29 | place a request on a given item. | |
| 15:29 | look in "transferts to do", it appear | |
| 15:30 | (the "transfers to do" has to be renamed to "hold to pick up in shelves") | |
| 15:30 | (because it's sometimes a transfer, sometimes a local reserve now) | |
| 15:30 | then check in the book, and that's it | |
| 16:32 | owen : patch sent to chris, you can check http://i15.bureau.paulpoulain.[…]/koha/mainpage.pl | |
| 16:33 | (systempreferences >> tab circulation >> set ReservesNeedReturns to 1 and check behaviour) | |
| 16:48 | ttl... | |
| 20:27 | chris | cool 5 new ones |
| 22:33 | masonj | morning koha |
| 22:35 | rach | morning |
| 22:35 | masonj | heya rach |
| 22:35 | rach | how are you this fine morning mason? |
| 22:36 | masonj | caffeinated ;) |
| 22:36 | pretty good really | |
| 22:36 | rach | excellent |
| 22:37 | masonj | saw a great thing on heli-skiing on tv a cupla days ago in sth island |
| 22:37 | thought of u :) | |
| 22:37 | rach | we tried to get a day heli in but the weather didn't play ball :-( |
| 05:41 | hdl | owen: chris ? |
| 05:41 | dewey | chris is probably now too |
| 05:42 | hdl | chris if you are awaken, have you had time to peer into my CGI::Session problem. |
| 05:42 | ? | |
| 05:43 | I realized that there were 3 different serialize engines in CGI::Session Storage, Default (Data::Dumper) and FreezeThaw. | |
| 05:43 | I wonder if ot could come from that. | |
| 05:53 | rach | is 5.55pm here so I suspect he might be off finding beer or dinner or both |
| 05:53 | (friday night) | |
| 05:56 | chris | that sounds quite plausible HDL |
| 05:56 | i had a look but i couldnt figure out what was different but htat might be it | |
| 05:59 | now im going to find some food, ill will bbl |
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