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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 12:45 | kados | morning owen |
| 12:45 | morning all | |
| 12:45 | owen | Hi |
| 12:45 | dewey | hi, owen |
| 12:45 | paul | hello kados & owen |
| 12:45 | kados | hi paul |
| 12:46 | paul: your patches have been applied | |
| 12:46 | paul: I'm wondering if we shouldn't just go ahead and move the OPAC tempaltes into the same structure as the staff client | |
| 12:46 | paul: do you like the new organization? | |
| 12:46 | paul | (on phone) |
| 12:48 | hdl | hi kados. |
| 12:49 | imho, OPAC has only one directory, So Would not need same structure. | |
| 12:50 | But, if we want a light maintenance... we may have rather do the same thing. | |
| 12:50 | .... | |
| 12:50 | Little question... | |
| 12:50 | kados | sure |
| 12:51 | hdl | Is it interesting to have opac-scriptname for opac ?? |
| 12:51 | kados | s/opac-search.pl/search.pl/ IMO |
| 12:52 | hdl | Since it breaks things for ISBD... I would find it more interesting to have only one Script API... ... But anyway. |
| 12:52 | It would not be the same path to scripts. | |
| 12:52 | kados | ahh, it breaks for ISBD? |
| 12:52 | one thing I'd like to do is remove the need for /cgi-bin/koha/ | |
| 12:52 | dewey | Hmm. No matches for that, kados. |
| 12:52 | kados | make that a syspref or a config file setting rather than hard coded |
| 12:52 | so I could choose to have just / or /koha or sth | |
| 12:53 | hdl | Yes, if you have a link say opac-search.pl in your ISBD, you won't be able to click on this link in intranet. |
| 12:53 | ... | |
| 12:53 | kados | hdl: ahh, right |
| 12:53 | hdl: good point actually | |
| 12:53 | hdl | But all those things are 2dary to BUG FXING. |
| 12:53 | kados | hdl: yep |
| 12:56 | paul | back |
| 12:57 | kados : about absolute path for opac, i 100% agree. we need to be able to have a more simpler architecture. Just note that, iirc, mod_perl don't like scripts without a complete path. | |
| 12:58 | kados | paul: ahh, good to know |
| 12:59 | paul: but the scripts will have a complete path w/respect to the server, for pre-compiling, right? | |
| 12:59 | or are you not talking about pre-compiling? | |
| 12:59 | it's been a while since I looked at mod_perl stuff, I know there's a bunch of options for how to use it | |
| 13:00 | paul | I don't understand internals. I just know that virtualshelves were not working well in 2.2 due to global variables (they are gone everywhere afaik), and scripts call being xxx.pl and not /cgi-bin/koha/xxx.pl |
| 13:01 | kados | *nod* |
| 13:01 | paul | about the template strcuture : I haven't investigated what you did exactly on intranet. what is nice with git is cherry picking ;-) : I don't have applied patches related to the templates rewriting : it breaked my ipt setup... |
| 13:01 | kados | paul: do you have some tests for mod_perl sanity? |
| 13:01 | paul | nope. |
| 13:02 | kados | we should make some before we make any changes to the script locations |
| 13:02 | paul | worst : san-op identified 1 problem with mySQL handlers not being freed, and they solved that by hardcoding a time-to-live of 10seconds for handlers |
| 13:02 | (mysql parameter) | |
| 13:02 | + i have found that some Context features, that were supposed to be cached were not in fact | |
| 13:03 | limiting the perf increase when going mod_perl. | |
| 13:03 | so, my suggestion would be : "don't do anything that will break mod_perl compatibility, but don't consider that it is working atm" | |
| 13:08 | kados | *nod* |
| 14:19 | owen | Hi foxnorth |
| 14:20 | foxnorth | hey owen- how's it going? |
| 14:20 | owen | Pretty well, thanks. |
| 14:21 | I finally got to see a preview of the cataloging client on Friday. It looks great | |
| 14:21 | foxnorth | hey, cool. it's coming along, i think |
| 14:28 | hdl | hi |
| 14:29 | foxnorth | hey hdl |
| 14:35 | Brooke | hola |
| 14:35 | dewey | salut, Brooke |
| 14:37 | bureado | hola :) |
| 14:37 | hdl | que tal ? |
| 14:38 | Brooke | pretty good |
| 14:39 | lots o stuff on the weekend | |
| 14:39 | got done thats been sitting and it was fun to boot | |
| 14:53 | right, lunch time | |
| 14:56 | owen | Did everyone see Colin McD's message to the Koha list? While the message itself was a little hard to get through, the core message is a good one: Koha needs to /work/. Every bug is bad customer experience. |
| 14:59 | kados | paul: ? hdl ? |
| 14:59 | paul | yep ? |
| 14:59 | hdl | yes |
| 14:59 | paul | I saw it too |
| 15:02 | owen | I wanted to highlight that email in case people brushed it off because of the suggestions for how to fix the problem. |
| 15:14 | kados | yea, that's a good point owen |
| 15:16 | paul | I don't understand "brushed it off" :-\ |
| 15:17 | kados | paul: means 'ignore' |
| 15:17 | owen | Sorry |
| 15:17 | paul | owen / kados : do you know when the template rewriting will be finished ? |
| 15:17 | I have some bugs on bugzilla I can't fix because it's probably a template problem & I don't want to interfere with what you're doing | |
| 15:18 | owen | I don't think we do. If they're template bugs can you pass them to me? |
| 15:18 | paul | owen : it's bugs you've entered & assigned to me ;-) |
| 15:19 | for example 1394 | |
| 15:19 | (bug that I can't reproduce however) | |
| 15:20 | owen : what do you mean by "I don't think we do" ? | |
| 15:20 | owen | I mean template-rewriting is part of the process of getting 3.0 ready. I can't see it ending until 3.0 is ready for release. |
| 15:21 | If there's a bug in a template, though, it should be fixed, and whatever changes need to be made later to that template can be corrected with the fix included | |
| 15:23 | Why do you say 1394 is a template bug? | |
| 15:23 | paul | I suspect. |
| 15:23 | but not sure, as I can't reproduce it atm | |
| 15:23 | (maybe it's a DateFormat systempref problem, maybe something else) | |
| 15:25 | owen | Here's more info: I just changed the DateFormat systempref from us to metric and the bug didn't happen |
| 15:26 | So it sounds like it's something about us or non-metric date formatting. | |
| 15:27 | paul | owen : maybe you could suggest GWB to discard us format for dates and use a more logic one ? |
| 15:28 | owen | Sure I'll get right on that :) |
| 15:28 | paul | ok, I close the bug then... :-D |
| 15:28 | owen | No, just reassign to GWB |
| 15:30 | Although I assigned him a bug for "global warming" and it came back marked "invalid" | |
| 15:46 | paul | owen : could you look at : http://i15.bureau.paulpoulain.[…]/koha/mainpage.pl |
| 15:46 | (login abel/abel) | |
| 15:47 | and tell me if it's the way a raw git repository should appear or if it should be nicer ? | |
| 15:47 | (same question to kados eventually) | |
| 15:47 | owen | No, that's not how it should look. It doesn't look like it's an up-to-date version. |
| 15:47 | paul | I suspect I should add some data somewhere in my database... |
| 15:48 | owen : it is an uptodate version (unless i'm mistaken, or joshua hasn't pushed everything) | |
| 15:48 | owen | In the current up to date version the main page uses staff-global.css instead of intranet2.css |
| 15:48 | paul | what is most probable is that something must be added in the systemprefs or somewhere |
| 15:48 | gotcha !! | |
| 15:49 | I just had to remove the intranetstylesheet ! | |
| 15:49 | mmm... | |
| 15:49 | no | |
| 15:53 | there's something going wrong with git (probably my use) | |
| 15:53 | if I switch to my local branch, it's OK | |
| 15:54 | if I switch to "master", it seems i go back to an old state | |
| 15:54 | (there is no modules/css/js/ in templates directories) | |
| 16:00 | ok, I understand what happends but not how to solve the problem... | |
| 16:00 | master is stamped to aug,13 | |
| 16:01 | the uptodate is called origin/master | |
| 16:03 | git checkout master | |
| 16:03 | git rebase origin | |
| 16:03 | hop, master is uptodate while localbranch is untouched... | |
| 16:03 | owen : is http://i15.bureau.paulpoulain.[…]/koha/mainpage.pl ok now ? | |
| 16:03 | owen | Yes |
| 16:04 | paul | yeah ! /me really happy with git ! |
| 16:06 | owen : are all template "yui-ed" ? | |
| 16:07 | owen | Not all, but most |
| 16:07 | auth.tmpl is an example of a page structure with no columns (single column). intranet-main.tmpl is an example of a page with a left-hand column | |
| 16:08 | Right now the left-hand navigation column in contained in mainmenu.inc, included just above intranet-bottom.inc | |
| 16:09 | paul | catalogue search results gives poor result, isn't it ? |
| 16:10 | owen | Yes, I'm working on it now |
| 16:10 | paul | ok |
| 16:10 | owen | My zebra index is broken, so I'm having difficulty working on catalog results pages |
| 17:04 | paul | kados : mail sent to koha-devel, about database structure. |
| 17:04 | end of the day for me anyway now. | |
| 17:08 | kados | paul++ |
| 17:08 | owen: your zebradb is busted? | |
| 17:08 | ahh, right, never did fix that, sorry :/ | |
| 17:08 | owen | :) |
| 18:54 | thd | kados: ping |
| 22:51 | chris: are you there? | |
| 02:27 | chris: I have a question about the patch submission process for git | |
| 02:27 | kados | thd: it's outlined on the wiki |
| 02:28 | thd: and chris is out of town today | |
| 02:28 | thd | kados: yes I know, my question is about submitting compressed patch archives which is not outlined |
| 02:28 | kados | thd: he'll be back tomorrow |
| 02:28 | compressed patches, eh? | |
| 02:28 | I think paul's done a couple of those | |
| 02:28 | to reduce space I guess? | |
| 02:28 | thd | ok thanks kados |
| 02:29 | kados: my mail system cannot accommodate very large attachments | |
| 02:29 | kados | *nod* |
| 02:44 | thd | kados: Do you know if both biblio.biblionumber and biblioitems.biblioitemnumber still need to be stored in the bibliographic record for Koha 3.0? |
| 02:45 | kados | currently they do |
| 02:46 | thd | kados: how had you accommodated using 001 which has no subfields for storing both of those values? |
| 02:47 | kados: you had told me that some of your installations used 001 for storing the Koha record ID but 001 is defined for storing only a single value. | |
| 07:52 | Brooke | howdy |
| 07:52 | dewey | niihau, Brooke |
| 08:01 | hdl | hi Brooke |
| 08:01 | Brooke | Bonjour :) |
| 08:36 | hi llyod | |
| 09:44 | hmmm sleepy again | |
| 10:15 | s3 | hi |
| 10:15 | dewey | hi, s3 |
| 10:16 | s3 | i want ask |
| 10:16 | can use koha system in special library | |
| 10:16 | and | |
| 10:17 | koha for windows | |
| 10:17 | or for lunix | |
| 10:18 | paul | hello s3. |
| 10:18 | s3 | hello |
| 10:18 | dewey | hola, s3 |
| 10:18 | paul | don't expect anything intelligent from dewey, it's a stupid bot ;-) |
| 10:19 | what is "special library" ? | |
| 10:19 | Koha works fine on windows and on linux, but it's easier to set up the server on linux/unix/mac OS-X | |
| 10:20 | s3 | i mean Specialized library |
| 10:20 | and i want ask | |
| 10:20 | paul | Koha is used in many differents libraries, I don't know why you could not use it ;-) |
| 10:21 | s3 | koha system how creait ti |
| 10:22 | library in usa or in uk or waht | |
| 10:22 | what | |
| 10:22 | paul | ??? |
| 10:24 | s3 | who desien this system |
| 10:24 | paul | many ppl develop Koha. |
| 10:24 | s3 | i am sorry |
| 10:25 | many peaple tell me this system desigen in israel | |
| 10:25 | paul | hdl & me (france) being the "european" part of the main core. kados, ryan and other LibLime folks being the US part |
| 10:25 | no israelian is involved yet | |
| 10:25 | why do you ask this question ? | |
| 10:26 | you're from Israel ? | |
| 10:26 | s3 | no |
| 10:26 | paul | the 1st version came from New Zealand. |
| 10:26 | now it's international | |
| 10:26 | s3 | i am egyptions |
| 10:26 | you live in new zealand | |
| 10:27 | paul | nope, i'm french. |
| 10:27 | so I live in France :-D | |
| 10:27 | s3 | i am happy to meet you |
| 10:27 | my name is ahmed |
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