IRC log for #koha, 2007-08-16

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14:00 kados mornin foxnorth
14:01 foxnorth hey kados: just got your email and checking into that db error
14:01 kados: may need to adjust my reset/setup funcs
14:01 owen hi kados and foxnorth
14:03 foxnorth hey owen
14:04 paul_ hello USA
14:04 ryan hi paul
14:04 paul commit for C4::Context::KOHAVERSION coming in the next hours...
14:38 foxnorth kados: i believe that error is fixed, if you want to refresh and try again
14:43 kados hiya owen
14:44 fixed
15:24 thd kados: are you there?
15:27 ryan: ping
15:38 kados hiya thd
15:39 thd: did you ever talk to paul about that issue you were having with the authorities frameworks?
15:39 paul yes, and I don't have any idea what happends...
15:39 kados paul: were you able to re-produce the problem?
15:39 paul nope
15:39 kados strange ...
15:40 paul I asked an URL, but thd didn't get me any
15:40 kados ahh, it's committed to rel_2_2
15:40 you can try from there
15:40 paul mmm... I thought it was on 3.0
15:40 kados nope, not yet
15:40 paul so I probably missed something...
15:41 is chris the only person validating patches ?
15:41 kados nope
15:41 your commits are in my queue
15:41 paul I submitted 11 patches yesterday, didn't you recieve them ?
15:41 ok
15:41 kados yes, chris approved them
15:42 I'll review them today
15:42 thd paul: I committed to the misc directory in both rel 2_2 and head if you were referring to the authorities frameworks
15:42 kados paul: http://cvs.savannah.nongnu.org[…]a&pathrev=rel_2_2
15:43 thd: I'm going to try the auth frameworks on 3.0 right now
15:44 thd: are they meant to be installed along with the default ones, or to replace the default?
15:45 thd kados: if you import the SQL file it dumps the old authority frameworks tables and recreates them with new frameworks including a default framework
15:47 kados: the default framework is more complete but unlike the bibliographic frameworks the original default was fairly close to correct and mostly complete
15:47 kados ok
15:47 thanks
15:48 thd paul: to remind you of the problem I had when I tested is that.
15:48 kados thd: did you go to library camp?
15:49 thd kados: yes, I learnt quite a bit and saw chris
15:49 kados excellent, I was going to ask
15:51 thd kados: chris suggested I post a link for Koha to the unconference wiki about RDF when it has some real information which may be about a month from now.
15:51 kados using the new web installer
15:51 excellent idea
15:53 so who is working on rdf?
15:53 hmmm
15:53 thd: error:
15:53 marc21_standard_auth_frameworks.sql
15:53 ERROR 1217 (23000) at line 144: Cannot delete or update a parent row: a foreign key constraint fails
15:53 paul: see error above using web installer
15:54 paul isn't this just a SET FOREIGN_KEY_CHECKS = 0; problem ?
15:54 kados ahh, I think you're right
15:55 thd kados: I put that in the standard installation file but not in the post installation update script
15:56 kados paul: should SET FOREIGN_KEY_CHECKS = 0 be in rel_2_2 code now also?
15:56 kados don't think so
15:56 thd: I'm testing on 3.0
15:56 paul I don't think so, there are no foreign keys in 2.2
15:58 kados interesting
15:58 now I got an error for the authorities_normal_marc21.sql file:
15:58 ERROR 1062 (23000) at line 2: Duplicate entry '010-a' for key 1
15:58 I think it worked though
15:59 we need to fix the installer a bit though, it should be able to negociate those errors better IMO
15:59 huh
15:59 there are a lot of duplicates
15:59 http://jmf.dev.kohalibrary.com[…]thorities-home.pl
16:00 thd kados: I had no SQL errors when I applied the script.  I do not understand the last error you reported.
16:00 kados thd: can you look at the headings and confirm they are correct?
16:00 or are there duplicates?
16:00 if duplicates I will re-run the installer and unselect the mandatory auth file
16:01 thd: I suspect your script is meant to replace the default one
16:01 thd: sorry, s/script/sql/
16:02 thd kados: yes, that is what I said.
16:02 kados ok, I"ll make that change and reinstall
16:02 thd kados: maybe it does not work with the web installer in that case
16:03 kados it shuld work fine
16:04 I've replaced it
16:04 testing again
16:04 thd kados: what do you mean by "replaced it"?
16:05 kados I replaced the default auth frameworks with yours in my install dir
16:05 well, not really the install dir
16:05 the misc/sql-datas/en/optional dir
16:05 importing now
16:05 ...
16:06 thd: we still need to fix the 3.0 marc simple bib frameworks
16:06 thd kados: I changed the mandatory one in HEAD with the new frameworks
16:06 kados add the new column
16:06 for default value
16:06 thd: do you have time to work on that?
16:06 thd kados: yes, but not until this evening
16:07 kados ok, the headings are loaded
16:07 http://jmf.dev.kohalibrary.com[…]thorities-home.pl
16:07 thd: ok, so what is the bug?
16:08 thd: do you want to try to reproduce on my 3.0 install?
16:09 thd kados paul: the bug I saw was that the initial frameworks inserted from the SQL file show all the same fields and subfields (that is everything in the standard) instead of the ones specified for personal name, corporate name, etc.
16:09 kados thd: http://staff-jmf.dev.kohalibrary.com user:thd pass: thd
16:09 thd kados: yes let me look
16:09 kados thd: you're a super librarian
16:12 thd kados: http://staff-jmf.dev.kohalibra[…]es/authorities.pl is stranger than on rel_2_2
16:13 kados: if I try to add an authority record I now have nothing appearing where the record editor form should be.
16:13 kados sounds like a bug :-)
16:13 paul: are any of your libraries using authorities in 3.0?
16:13 paul yep, ipt widely use them
16:14 although I haven't tested the cvs recently
16:14 thd kados: the list of frameworks is still backwards alphabetically on the authorities page
16:14 kados http://staff-jmf.dev.kohalibrary.com
16:14 thd / thd
16:15 zebra is running, but zebraqueue not
16:15 thd kados: what should I see there?
16:15 kados paul: http://staff-jmf.dev.kohalibrary.com thd / thd
16:16 paul: installed using web installer just now, running off of git version using thd's new frameworks
16:16 paul sorry guys, but I have to leave
16:16 (we have a dinner with friends...)
16:16 paul_dinner (and i'm already late...)
16:17 thd paul_dinner: will you be around tomorrow morning to look at this?
16:19 kados: In the link to which you pointed me I have nothing in the main part of the page except "Welcome to Koha"
16:19 kados yes, that's the default for 3.0
16:19 I was just showing paul how to get to 3.0 with authorities
16:20 thd oh :)
16:21 kados: seems to be broken because no form appears in the authorities editor.
16:21 kados yea
16:21 thd kados: can we try rel_2_2?
16:21 kados so add that to the list of broken features in 3.0 :-)
16:22 thd kados: can we try on a test install of version 2 now?
16:23 kados yes, I'd like to
16:23 but I have to wait for ryan
16:24 thd kados: by wait do you mean wait for him to come back from lunch or something?
16:24 kados yes, 
16:25 thd kados: so for how long should I do something else now?
16:26 kados hehe
16:26 I'll call him
16:26 just a sec
16:30 thd kados: I was speaking with him on telephone just before you and paul appeared on IRC.
16:40 ryan thd: i'll have time to test on dev_week late tomorrow or fri morning
16:43 thd foxnorth: hello
16:44 foxnorth: Is opencataloger ready for production use?
16:48 foxnorth thd: well i've been working on this web based cataloging app, with a different ui toolkit and a few different ideas from toins' and paul's opencataloger project
16:49 thd: it's not ready for production but it's getting a little closer each day :)
16:50 thd: eg no help system yet, still working on the marc editor
16:52 kados thd: it'll be ready for your review in a week or two :-)
17:05 owen kados: any further ideas on how to get the changes from my local repository to my remote one?
18:05 kados owen: sorry, chris has been awol since he left athens :-)
18:05 haven't had a chance to ask him yet
18:05 owen That's what happens when you let your employees run free
18:05 kados hehe, yea
18:19 owen kados, why would the error log show only "premature end of script headers" without going into more detail?
18:43 kados owen: because apache2 did some mentalness and it ignores the error log setting in the apache conf
18:43 all the real errors are in the main log
18:44 owen the main log?
18:44 kados the main apache log
18:44 /var/log/apache2/error.log
18:44 it's damned annoying
18:44 wish I could find a solution for it
18:45 so we need to give you sudo privs to tail the apache error log on arwen
18:45 ryan: you on that?
18:45 owen Does that mean that my Koha install's errors are lumped together with everyone elses on that machine?
18:45 kados yea :(
18:45 but don't blame us, it's apache2 :-)
18:48 owen Who defines the patron category category types? Those are built into Koha by default?
18:50 [K] *** part FreeNode!#koha: rangi n=nnchris@203.118.134.114
18:51 kados I think so
18:51 well
18:51 you can define new categories, but based on some category types
19:51 owen Shouldn't the installation process prompt you for a value for the LibraryName system preference?
22:38 kados chris: you around?
22:38 chris: just looking at the first batch of stuff you pushed to me
22:39 chris: it's an 'all or nothing' patch, I'd rather deal with each of these individually, because some of them aren't up to snuff IMO
00:48 [K] *** join #koha@FreeNode: rangi n=nnchris@203.118.134.114
01:04 kados hey chris
02:03 Set-Cookie: CGISESSID=34998e2b89466ef1476e395ca8defb0a; path=/^M
02:03 Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 02:02:02 GMT^M
02:03 Content: text/html^M
02:03 Content-Type: utf-8^M
02:03 that's the prob with 3.0
02:03 shoudln't content-type be first?
02:12 fixed now
02:12 yay
08:40 martinmorris hello all our little library is going to adopt koha which is good - but I'm having trouble getting barcodes to work
08:40 i'd also appreciate some practical advice on how we actually implement it
08:43 masonj hi martin, i might be able to help u in a few hours
08:43 im busy at the moment
08:44 js hello, if you want some help, explain your problem
08:45 martinmorris ok, the barcode problem: I believe I have all the correct modules installed, but when I try to generate barcodes a new browser window pops up and nothing more happens
08:45 I have added my own country code beforehand (Great Britain/GB)
08:45 it's possible i'm just putting wrong information in beforehand
08:46 paul_ hello martinmorris
08:46 martinmorris hi paul_ :)
08:46 paul_ is your problem printing barcodes or entering barcodes when creating an item ?
08:47 martinmorris oh i can enter barcodes fine
08:47 but they don't appear when I go to Barcode Generator and enter the details
08:47 the barcode just autogenerate for a specific item so that's no problem
08:47 paul_ bad news : I can't help you on this, because I never use barcodes stuff (& didn't code it )
08:48 martinmorris not to worry paul, thanks anyway
08:49 will try i ton a different browser
08:51 on firefox is just offers to let me download barcodesgenerator.pl - which is a blank document
08:58 well i'll keep this logged in in case anybody has ideas.  I'm using Safari and Firefox on a Mac running 10.4.9
08:58 beg pardon, 10.4.10
09:00 paul_ martinmorris: it means there has been an internal server error I bet. You should check apache logs.
09:15 chris around ?
09:15 (a git question... another one...)

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