| Time |
Nick |
Message |
| 13:03 |
kados |
paul: around? |
| 13:03 |
paul |
hi kados. |
| 13:03 |
kados |
hiya |
| 13:03 |
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paul: chris is here in athens |
| 13:03 |
paul |
no, i'm with my 2 caledonian students |
| 13:03 |
kados |
paul: we finished migrating koha to git |
| 13:03 |
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paul: git.koha.org |
| 13:04 |
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and wrote some docs: |
| 13:04 |
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http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]lopment:git_usage |
| 13:04 |
paul |
(hdl is around, & will probably be more available) |
| 13:04 |
kados |
(cool) |
| 13:04 |
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hdl: hi :-) |
| 13:04 |
hdl |
hi hdl |
| 13:10 |
chris |
morning |
| 13:15 |
owen |
Hi guys |
| 13:15 |
kados |
morning owen |
| 13:16 |
chris |
hiya owen |
| 14:38 |
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slef |
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| 18:59 |
chris |
hey slef |
| 19:56 |
slef |
chris? |
| 19:56 |
dewey |
rumour has it chris is now too |
| 19:57 |
chris |
just saying hi :) |
| 19:58 |
slef |
hi |
| 19:58 |
dewey |
hola, slef |
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| 02:46 |
CGI268 |
hello? |
| 02:46 |
dewey |
hello is anyone here |
| 02:46 |
masonj |
me! |
| 02:46 |
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i am! |
| 02:46 |
CGI268 |
three of us? |
| 02:47 |
masonj |
whats up cgi? |
| 02:47 |
CGI268 |
I'm thinking about installing Koha. |
| 02:47 |
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What's up with you, masonj? |
| 02:47 |
masonj |
im fiddling with a reserves report |
| 02:48 |
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learning tricky sql joins |
| 02:48 |
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left and right joins... |
| 02:48 |
CGI268 |
I have a lot of newbie questions. I should probably look through the email list archive. |
| 02:49 |
masonj |
yeah, no probs, there are a few newbie guides/pages about |
| 02:49 |
CGI268 |
Like I think our version of Debian is older than what's mentioned in the Koha documentation. |
| 02:50 |
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I suppose I should research my questions before bothering you, unless it's an easy answer. |
| 02:50 |
masonj |
hmm, how old? :) |
| 02:51 |
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yeah, just have a go, then when u get stuck, jump back on |
| 02:51 |
CGI268 |
uname -a: Linux harley 2.6.8-2-386 #1 Tue Aug 16 12:46:35 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 02:51 |
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are people always on here? |
| 02:52 |
masonj |
yep, the developers have their irc clients always in the #koha channel |
| 02:54 |
CGI268 |
I think the Koha installation documents are only for Debian 3.0 and 3.1, but ours seems to be 2.6? |
| 02:55 |
masonj |
the 2.6 from yr uname is the kernel version , i think |
| 02:55 |
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try a 'cat /etc/debian_version' |
| 02:55 |
CGI268 |
okay, thanks |
| 02:56 |
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Thanks you very much! It's 3.1. |
| 02:56 |
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whew |
| 02:56 |
masonj |
cool, thats not so old :) |
| 02:57 |
CGI268 |
I guess it's like the Fedora Core number and the kernel version are different? |
| 02:57 |
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Thank you for pointing that out, and for the helpful info! |
| 02:57 |
masonj |
yeah, exactly |
| 02:57 |
CGI268 |
Okay, well I'll be back again with more dumb newbie questions. |
| 02:58 |
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Much luck with your SQL queries. |
| 02:58 |
masonj |
lol, ill need 'em |
| 03:05 |
CGI268 |
bye |
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| 05:30 |
CGI971 |
hello? |
| 05:30 |
dewey |
hello is anyone here |
| 05:31 |
masonj_ |
heya cgi :) |
| 05:31 |
CGI971 |
Hey Mason, are you up for another question? |
| 05:31 |
masonj_ |
a quickie, im about to shoot off |
| 05:32 |
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hit me |
| 05:32 |
CGI971 |
Okay, I am following Joshua Ferraro's install manual for Fedora Core 1, 2, 3 |
| 05:32 |
masonj_ |
uhuh... |
| 05:32 |
CGI971 |
So I just installed Yaz |
| 05:32 |
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Which was for FC3, yaz-2.1.8-1 etc |
| 05:32 |
masonj_ |
u are running debian? |
| 05:33 |
CGI971 |
Then I try to install the remaining Perl modules |
| 05:33 |
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I'm on Redhat Fedora Core 3 now. |
| 05:33 |
masonj_ |
aah |
| 05:33 |
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im a bit rusty on redhat |
| 05:33 |
CGI971 |
so the perl -MCPAN -e 'install Event' goes fine |
| 05:33 |
masonj_ |
right |
| 05:33 |
CGI971 |
but then I'm trying the next Perl module, Net::Z3950 |
| 05:33 |
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this gives an error |
| 05:34 |
masonj_ |
right , ive been thru this a few times too :) |
| 05:34 |
CGI971 |
ZOOM-Perl requires at least version 2.1.50 of Yaz but you only have version 2.1.8 |
| 05:34 |
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So I see in the YAZ repository that 2.1.50 is in the FC5 directory |
| 05:35 |
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Well, I think this won't work well with FC3, but I try it any way |
| 05:35 |
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Okay, so back to installing YAZ, this time 2.1.50-1 |
| 05:35 |
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(of FC5) |
| 05:35 |
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but now it says "Failed dependencies" |
| 05:35 |
masonj_ |
right, a workaround is to grab yaz from indexdata's ftp site |
| 05:35 |
CGI971 |
libc.so.6, libcrypto.so.6, libssl.so.6 |
| 05:36 |
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What should I do? |
| 05:36 |
masonj_ |
gimme a tic... |
| 05:36 |
CGI971 |
Does this mean I need to upgrade to Fedora Core 5? |
| 05:36 |
masonj_ |
probably not |
| 05:37 |
CGI971 |
Hmmm? |
| 05:37 |
masonj_ |
http://ftp.indexdata.dk/pub/yaz/redhat/ |
| 05:37 |
CGI971 |
Yes, that's where I found it. |
| 05:38 |
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In fact, I have that open in another browser window. |
| 05:38 |
masonj_ |
right , but fc3 , only has yaz.2.1.8 tho... |
| 05:39 |
CGI971 |
Where are you located, masonj? |
| 05:39 |
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I hope it is not getting into the wee hours for you. |
| 05:39 |
masonj_ |
new zealand |
| 05:39 |
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nah, 6pm here |
| 05:40 |
CGI971 |
It is about 10:45 pm here, Monday night. |
| 05:40 |
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I'm glad it's not late there. |
| 05:40 |
masonj_ |
hmm, so have you tried grabbing a yaz*rpm from fc5, and installing that? |
| 05:40 |
CGI971 |
Are you stuck, too? |
| 05:40 |
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Do you think I should post this on the email list? |
| 05:41 |
masonj_ |
nah, the wireless here has started playing up, and my vi/ssh sessions are lagging like crazy |
| 05:41 |
CGI971 |
I downloaded yaz...2.1.50-1 from fc5, because the error message said I needed at least 2.1.50. |
| 05:42 |
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But this causes other incompatibilities. |
| 05:42 |
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Yesterday I did a complete yum update (yum is the package/rpm manager for Fedora) |
| 05:42 |
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So everything is the latest for FC3 |
| 05:42 |
masonj_ |
yeah, it can be a little bit of a dependancy dance |
| 05:43 |
CGI971 |
So the files that yaz needs are probably beyond FC3 |
| 05:43 |
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and might mess things up if I install them |
| 05:43 |
masonj_ |
well, i guess the simple answer is upgrade to fc4 |
| 05:43 |
CGI971 |
I mean other dependencies might break or something. |
| 05:44 |
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Well FC4 is an idea. |
| 05:44 |
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Do you know what Fedora Core most people are using with Koha? |
| 05:44 |
masonj_ |
hmm, no idea actually, most of the developers use debian |
| 05:45 |
CGI971 |
That's what we have at work, but I wanted to try it at home, and my boss loaned me a Linux machine with FC3 on it. |
| 05:45 |
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I read that Koha was developed using Debian. |
| 05:46 |
masonj_ |
well, looks like they are up to fc6, so fc3 is kinda old |
| 05:47 |
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june 2005 |
| 05:47 |
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set up a debian box, or a newer fedora |
| 05:48 |
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and save yourself some pain |
| 05:48 |
CGI971 |
I've seen stuff about FC7, but it says something about 64-bit. So I didn't know if it would work with this old computer. |
| 05:49 |
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Do you know if "64-bit" depends on the CPU or the memory bus or some other hardware? |
| 05:50 |
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Or can any machine run a 64-bit operating system? |
| 05:51 |
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If I upgrade to FC4, do you think it will leave the data partitions in place (like with all of my boss's personal data in his home directory?) |
| 05:51 |
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Now I'm hitting you with all these questions. I'm sorry. You probably need to be elsewhere. |
| 05:51 |
masonj_ |
lets put it this way...... |
| 05:52 |
CGI971 |
...yes? |
| 05:52 |
masonj_ |
u currently know waaaaaay more about fedora than i do :) |
| 05:52 |
CGI971 |
I never used it except yesterday and one other day. |
| 05:53 |
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But running "yum update"'s for 9 hours yesterday was a bit of an education. |
| 05:53 |
masonj_ |
ah, i take that back |
| 05:53 |
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ow |
| 05:53 |
CGI971 |
not how you usually want to spend your Sunday |
| 05:54 |
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especially if I upgrade and have to do it again or several more times |
| 05:55 |
masonj_ |
yeah, but if your boss doesnt mind, try putting debian on the box |
| 05:55 |
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looks like the net is back on over here... |
| 05:55 |
CGI971 |
Do you think that would leave the data partition, like home directories, in tact? |
| 05:56 |
masonj_ |
yeah, if you set it up that way during the deb install |
| 05:57 |
CGI971 |
Well, I think that would work if they were previous Debian home directories, but I wonder if it will work when crossing over from Fedora to Debian. |
| 05:58 |
masonj_ |
just tell the deb partition manager to leave alone the current fc3 /home partition |
| 05:58 |
CGI971 |
okay, I will try that if I do it. |
| 05:58 |
masonj_ |
which might not leave u much space :), but hey... |
| 06:00 |
CGI971 |
well, if you subscribe to the koha mailing lists, you'll see my dumb newbie questions unleashed on the whole world soon |
| 06:00 |
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Thank you for all your help, MasonJ, and have a good evening! |
| 06:00 |
masonj_ |
http://ftp.indexdata.dk/pub/yaz/yaz-2.1.50.tar.gz |
| 06:00 |
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u can always just grab that, and try compilling it manually too |
| 06:01 |
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lots of people have done yaz setups that way, with good success |
| 06:01 |
CGI971 |
one odd thing is that if I do a "locate libc.so" I find /lib/i686/libc.so.6 |
| 06:01 |
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and some others, but the message is |
| 06:01 |
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libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.4) is needed by yaz-2.1.50-1.i386 |
| 06:02 |
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So I don't know what the (GLIBC_2.4) means, or why it doesn't like the libc.so.6's I already have |
| 06:02 |
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Do you know? |
| 06:03 |
masonj_ |
hmmm, nah i dont |
| 06:03 |
CGI971 |
I will see if I can copy and paste this transcript into my email list post. |
| 06:03 |
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parts of it - not the whole thing |
| 06:04 |
masonj_ |
i guess the newer versions of yaz , need a newer libc |
| 06:04 |
CGI971 |
I don't know how to compile it manually. Does it have a make file? Or do you run "configure"? |
| 06:04 |
masonj_ |
but im not sure why it doesnt like your libc |
| 06:05 |
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there will be a nice README in the yaz tar , that will tell u all that |
| 06:07 |
CGI971 |
Okay, well I'll try it. Will it matter that it came from the yaz directory instead of the fc3 directory? |
| 06:07 |
masonj_ |
not really |
| 06:07 |
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cd into the yaz dir |
| 06:08 |
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./configure |
| 06:08 |
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make |
| 06:08 |
CGI971 |
Yep, I see it! |
| 06:08 |
masonj_ |
make install (as root) |
| 06:08 |
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thats about it, |
| 06:08 |
CGI971 |
I have to get up tomorrow at 6 o'clock - that leaves me 7 hours of sleep, so I better go. |
| 06:09 |
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Thank you, masonj, for all your patience and help! I really appreciate it. I will work on it some more tomorrow. |
| 06:09 |
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Have a good night! |
| 06:09 |
masonj_ |
yep, you too |
| 11:33 |
Brooke |
howdy |
| 11:33 |
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bonjour paul, henri |
