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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 13:05 | thd` | kados? |
| 13:05 | dewey | kados is just a bit tied up |
| 15:58 | kados | hiya thd |
| 15:58 | thd | hello kados |
| 15:59 | so you are inviting me to break head by suggesting new columns now rather than later? | |
| 16:00 | kados | :-) |
| 16:00 | well, weve discussed adding columns to the framework, but I haven't seen a list yet | |
| 16:01 | I know indicators is one area we could improve in | |
| 16:01 | thd | kados: given your statement about some code which breaks on reading would that not unnecessarily delay the release? |
| 16:02 | kados: the list should obviously start with something for indicator positions similar to what is present for subfields | |
| 16:04 | kados | right |
| 16:05 | thd | kados: should improved support for indicators go where indicators are treated now in the table for the field generally or should they have their own table like subfields? |
| 16:06 | kados: adding a new table could not break anything | |
| 16:08 | kados: are you there? | |
| 16:11 | kados | yep |
| 16:14 | thd | kados: would a new table for adding better support for indicators be necessarily better because it would not break any existing code? |
| 16:16 | kados | hmmm |
| 16:16 | possibly | |
| 16:18 | thd | kados: you hesitate? |
| 16:18 | kados | no, just haven't thought about it much |
| 16:18 | and ... I'm not really a database designer :-) | |
| 16:18 | so I'm not really the one to ask | |
| 16:18 | :-) | |
| 16:19 | thd | kados: just to be clear than the fields and current limited indicator support is defined in one table |
| 16:20 | subfields are defined in another | |
| 16:20 | s/ than/,/ | |
| 16:22 | I will think about my suggestions from a year ago and propose something tomorrow | |
| 16:22 | kados: I have a couple of other questions | |
| 16:22 | kados | sure |
| 16:24 | thd | kados: I made an extra column version of the the simple frameworks representing various media types but I have been unable to add it to the misc directrory in HEAD |
| 16:25 | kados: I have been able to add new files in the past. Have the permissions changed? | |
| 16:27 | kados | hmmm |
| 16:27 | did you do a cvs add? | |
| 16:27 | cvs add filename | |
| 16:27 | cvs commit filename | |
| 16:28 | thd | yes |
| 16:29 | kados: the only thing which I did not do was to try adding again while logging the response | |
| 16:30 | kados | permissions haven't changed |
| 16:30 | (can't do that in CVS anyway) | |
| 16:31 | thd | :) |
| 16:35 | kados: I used: cvs -z3 -d thdcvs.savannah.nongnu.org:/sources/koha add marc21_simple_bib_frameworks.sql |
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| 16:35 | this command was issued from my HEAD checkout directory | |
| 16:35 | kados: what was wrong with that syntax? | |
| 16:36 | kados | nothing |
| 16:36 | did you add your ssh key to savannah? | |
| 16:36 | ahh, hang on | |
| 16:37 | you need: | |
| 16:37 | cvs -z3 -d ext:thdcvs.savannah.nongnu.org:/sources/koha add marc21_simple_bib_frameworks.sql |
|
| 16:37 | missing the type ext: | |
| 16:37 | thd | kados: is that something new? |
| 16:38 | kados | nope |
| 16:39 | thd | kados: when I added that file to rel_2_2 a year ago I did not use that syntax |
| 16:43 | kados: my other question is have you seen http://demo.openlibrary.org ? | |
| 16:43 | kados | yep, I've seen it |
| 16:44 | thd | kados: have you looked at how their data is populated and their XML schema? |
| 16:45 | kados | not yet |
| 16:47 | thd | kados: their XML schema is simpler than Dublin Core |
| 16:48 | kados: Karen Coyle has advised them but apparently they have not paid much attention because their XML fields which are populated by LC records do not even have more than one author and many other problems | |
| 16:49 | s/by/from/ | |
| 16:50 | kados: Koha is a few orders of magnitude better than what they have | |
| 16:50 | kados | *nod* |
| 16:51 | thd | kados: yet they have the backing of people with real money |
| 16:51 | kados | thd: where is the data model defined? |
| 16:53 | thd | kados: obviously they have it in the source code which is available under the AGPL 3 license which is still only a first draft with one fatal bug at FSF. |
| 17:00 | kados: Karen Coyle's notes on the schema are at http://www.kcoyle.net/temp/PharosSchema . | |
| 17:00 | kados | heh, they licensed it under a draft of a license? |
| 17:00 | that's mental! | |
| 17:00 | thd | :0 |
| 17:00 | kados | that link doesn't work for me |
| 17:01 | thd | http://www.kcoyle.net/temp/PharosSchema+kc.html |
| 17:03 | kados: what they are actually using now is even simpler and anyone can edit the whole record wiki style by just choosing edit or whatever the function is on a record | |
| 21:34 | kados: are you there? | |
| 23:31 | pananohacker | _ |
| 23:31 | Hello. | |
| 23:55 | logbot: help |
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