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| Time | Nick | Message | 
|---|---|---|
| 12:23 | hdl | hi jaron | 
| 12:24 | jaron | good day hdl | 
| 12:25 | hdl: you're taking vacation soon? Are you going away? | |
| 12:25 | hdl | next week. | 
| 12:26 | for 2 weeks. | |
| 12:26 | going in the alps take some rest and care about my wife and little daughter. | |
| 12:27 | jaron | sounds great! | 
| 13:20 | hdl | hi owen. | 
| 13:21 | kados around? | |
| 13:21 | owen | hi hdl | 
| 13:25 | kados | hdl: yep | 
| 13:25 | hdl | hi kados | 
| 13:25 | kados | hdl: did you just disable the 'facets' 'refine search' for nozebra? | 
| 13:26 | hdl | *I* didn't nothing with nozebra. | 
| 13:26 | kados | ahh | 
| 13:26 | hdl | maybe toins did. | 
| 13:26 | I donot have nozebra. | |
| 13:26 | kados | oops, you're right | 
| 13:26 | hdl | yet | 
| 13:27 | toins | kados: yes i did it | 
| 13:27 | kados | toins: what's the reason nozebra shouldn't have refine option? | 
| 13:27 | hdl | kados : I had a question about datedue onloan tag in ccl.properties. | 
| 13:28 | It refers to 9952 attrubute. | |
| 13:28 | kados | right | 
| 13:28 | hdl | I cannot see it in bib1.att | 
| 13:28 | toins | kados: paul told me it could be impossible to do iirc | 
| 13:28 | and paul has coded NZgetRecords as this => return (undef,NZorder($result,@$sort_by_ref[0],$results_per_page,$offset),undef); | |
| 13:28 | kados | toins: ? it shouldn't be, just pull out the MARC from biblioitems.marc IIRC | 
| 13:28 | toins: ahh | |
| 13:28 | toins | the last undef is the $facets attributs | 
| 13:29 | kados | hdl: strange | 
| 13:30 | hdl: it's probably 9522 | |
| 13:30 | hdl | facets are generated via scan zebra feature iirc. | 
| 13:30 | kados | hdl: typo I think | 
| 13:30 | facets are generated from zebra's 'present' feature | |
| 13:30 | which just pulls out binary MARC | |
| 13:30 | we could do the same with mysql if we wanted | |
| 13:31 | hdl: I think it's a typo | |
| 13:31 | hdl: 9522 is onloan for NPL | |
| 13:31 | hdl | it is I that made a type. | 
| 13:31 | it is I that made a typo | |
| 13:31 | But I donot have 9522 in bib1 | |
| 13:32 | kados | bib1 and record.abs are, in some ways, going to be customized per library I think | 
| 13:33 | every library that changes their frameworks to use different holdings fields will also need to change record.abs | |
| 13:33 | hdl | Are you kidding ? | 
| 13:33 | kados | to index those holdings | 
| 13:35 | toins | kados: but biblioitems.marc is already used in koha3.0 ? | 
| 13:36 | hdl | toins : marc is used. I think so | 
| 13:37 | toins | ah... | 
| 13:37 | hdl | look at ModBiblio | 
| 13:39 | kados | toins: ? does Koha 3.0 use biblioitems.marc or biblioitems.marcxml? | 
| 13:39 | toins | biblioitems.marcxml | 
| 13:40 | kados | so we should remove biblioitems.marc then | 
| 13:40 | to avoid confusion | |
| 13:42 | toins | hdl: currently yes but i think paul told to remove it for the future | 
| 13:42 | hdl | yes. it is forecast. | 
| 17:04 | kados : | |
| 17:05 | next time you want to factorize list creation (such as order lists in opac or in intranet) | |
| 17:05 | I urge you, i implore you, i beg you | |
| 17:05 | to use TMPL_INCLUDE rather than a perl script. | |
| 17:05 | Pls Pls Pls. | |
| 17:09 | kados | list creation? | 
| 17:09 | you are referring to the lists in the OPAC for language, etc.? | |
| 17:09 | because my intent is to store those in the databse, not in a template | |
| 17:09 | because every library will want a different set | |
| 17:09 | and I want local modifs to survive an upgrade | |
| 19:05 | thd | kados: are you there? | 
| 19:14 | ryan: are you there? | |
| 19:37 | ryan | hi thd | 
| 19:37 | thd | ryan: hello | 
| 19:38 | ryan: I asked Mike Taylor off list how much fixing Unicode support for Zebra would cost | |
| 19:39 | ryan | uh-oh :) | 
| 19:39 | big number ? | |
| 19:39 | thd | ryan: his answer today was $11,000 if they could get a commitment in a week or two for the funds payable at some later time | 
| 19:40 | ryan: they already have a large commitment which is about to expire soon | |
| 19:41 | ryan: I know you do not need this for your existing customers and maybe for no prospective customers at the moment | |
| 19:42 | ryan: however, I know someone who might be able to contribute something to that if opencataloger would be ready soon | |
| 19:43 | ryan: what is the prospect for a more functional demo of opencataloger than the one I saw | |
| 19:43 | ? | |
| 19:43 | ryan | afaik, there will be a fully functional cataloging client ready at the end of August | 
| 19:43 | when did you look at the demo ? | |
| 19:44 | thd | ryan: the end of August is not a week or so which Mike Taylor had stipulated | 
| 19:44 | ryan: how functional might a demo be in a week? | |
| 19:46 | ryan | i'm not sure what you looked at... | 
| 19:46 | the new google gears stuff ? | |
| 19:46 | or the previous interface ? | |
| 19:47 | thd | ryan: definitely the previous interface on which toins was working when foxnorth was just getting started | 
| 19:48 | ryan: do you have a URL to the current status? | |
| 19:49 | ryan | i'm not sure if it's public facing. | 
| 19:49 | send an email to josh; he can get you access | |
| 19:50 | functionally, it's probably at a similar place as what you saw | |
| 19:50 | thd | ryan: I was preparing an email | 
| 19:50 | ryan | the interface is quite nice | 
| 19:51 | it's looking really sharp imo | |
| 19:51 | thd | ryan: do you have any prospective Asian language customers expressing an interest in Koha? | 
| 21:04 | chris | thd: you about? | 
| 21:04 | thd | chris: yes | 
| 21:04 | chris | http://groups.google.com/group/kohataiwan/files | 
| 21:05 | http://koha.wikispaces.com/ | |
| 21:06 | anthony mao in taiwan has done lots of work with Koha and Chinese | |
| 21:06 | thd | chris: presumably they are not using Zebra | 
| 21:06 | chris | im not sure, but im guessing not | 
| 21:07 | thd | chris: they could have romanised access to the major access points in 256 characters with Zebra currently | 
| 21:08 | chris | they might be good to talk though, because they will have a vested interest in zebra and utf8 | 
| 21:08 | thd | chris: yes, exactly | 
| 21:08 | chris | even nz does | 
| 21:09 | to search maori correctly | |
| 21:09 | thd | chris: Is that an issue for your libraries currently? | 
| 21:09 | chris | so we need to get an nz client who wants 3.0 | 
| 21:09 | not currently | |
| 21:09 | but before they upgrade yep | |
| 21:09 | none of the nz ones are using zebra at the moment | |
| 21:10 | though they would like too | |
| 21:10 | mind you, romanised search would be at least as good as they other ILS's do for maori | |
| 21:10 | but we dont want to just be as good, we want to be better :) | |
| 21:11 | thd | koha should always be better when it can be | 
| 21:12 | chris: Mike Taylor has told me that there is an advantage to obtaining a commitment within a week or so for the remaining $11,000 | |
| 21:12 | chris | right | 
| 21:13 | i dont think we will be able to do much about that unfortunately | |
| 21:14 | thd | chris: I am preparing a private message to CC to Koha developers to see if there is any interest in making any commitment towards that at the present time | 
| 21:14 | chris | cool | 
| 21:15 | jaron | thd++ | 
| 21:15 | thd | chris: Mike said that it would take six months work which they could start now | 
| 21:16 | chris | k | 
| 21:18 | masonj | morning #koha | 
| 21:22 | thd | chris: would messages from Anthony Mao be found in the koha-devel list? | 
| 21:24 | chris | yeah probably in the main list too | 
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| 06:32 | shakirlkhan | hello ne help me koha installation | 
| 06:34 | ne body can help in koha | |
| 06:34 | it mean one is here | |
| 06:34 | its mean no one is here | |
| 06:34 | ok thanks | |
| 06:35 | bye | 
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