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| Time | Nick | Message |
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| 12:22 | kados | morning #koha |
| 12:22 | jaron | morning, kados |
| 12:23 | kados | hiya |
| 12:23 | bout time for some coffee ... I'll bbiab | |
| 13:16 | hdl | morning kados |
| 13:16 | morning owen | |
| 13:46 | martinmorris | hello, whoever's there got a question about fuzzy searching in the intranet and catalogue |
| 13:58 | well, if anybody sees this, i have, for example, an author 'Petőfi, Sándor' and i'd like users to be able to search under just 'Petofi' without knowing about the accent on the 'o' - any ideas? | |
| 14:00 | jaron | martinmorris: this is an issue I've encountered as well, but never had a chance to investigate. |
| 14:00 | martinmorris | fair enough jaron (hello btw) |
| 14:01 | jaron | let me know if you discover anything. |
| 14:01 | martinmorris | will do :) |
| 14:01 | jaron | it'd be nice to have those characters indexed by their latin1 counterparts without the diacritics |
| 14:01 | martinmorris | definitely |
| 14:02 | jaron | I'm sure it's possible but unsure if something like that would be worked into 2.2. I wonder if zebra can handle this better? |
| 14:02 | owen | I know the developers have discussed this issue before, but I'm not sure what the current status is |
| 14:03 | jaron | owen: yeah, it's not trivial to implement for sure. |
| 14:04 | martinmorris | i'm tempted to automatically put something in 700$a without the accents for each case, but it's not idea by any means |
| 14:05 | jaron | it looks like for zebra you can create a huge mapping file string.chr which would do this. |
| 14:05 | martinmorris | that's good |
| 14:05 | brb | |
| 14:11 | jaron | martinmorris: see: http://www.indexdata.com/zebra[…]ter-map-files.tkl |
| 14:12 | what you want may be possible with the zebra index without changing your records. | |
| 14:14 | If you were to change your records now to include latin1 characters for indexing you may see if there's something in the MARC standard for that. I doubt it though. Otherwise you might choose a local field in the 9XX range and then change your MARC framework to also search that field. | |
| 14:15 | 1XX and 7XX should either be the authorized form or if there is no authority file the form as it appears on the piece. | |
| 14:35 | hdl | jaron : you are not far from the solution. |
| 14:35 | But you would have to reindex after changing the character map file. | |
| 14:36 | jaron | hdl: you're talking zebra? |
| 14:36 | hdl | btw, zebra and rel30 is supposed to use utf8 and not latin1. |
| 14:36 | jaron : quite | |
| 14:37 | jaron | hdl: of course utf8 but there's overlap with the ascii (or whatever) set. |
| 14:37 | hdl | not for accented characters |
| 14:37 | afaik | |
| 14:38 | jaron | hdl: yes, but what martinmorris wants would map characters from accented characters to non-accented ones |
| 14:38 | the one problem I see is that there's more than one way to normalize diacritics in utf8 | |
| 14:38 | composed and decomposed | |
| 14:39 | the MARC21 standard seems to want decomposed characters to make the round trip back to MARC-8 more possible. | |
| 14:41 | and I haven't looked at character mapping in zebra enough to know how it would handle that. | |
| 14:41 | hdl: but it's good to know I was on the right track :) | |
| 14:43 | hdl | owen : how do you manage your opac home page for athens ? |
| 14:44 | owen | What in particular? |
| 14:44 | Much of it is done by customizing the OpacMainUserBlock system preference | |
| 14:45 | I have to edit the template directly to get the right-hand sidebar extras in there. | |
| 14:48 | toins | perhaps a npl specific one ? |
| 14:48 | owen | It's dev-week specific |
| 14:49 | If there's no updatedatabase for dev-week then it may not be in there by default | |
| 14:50 | hdl | and we didnot install devweek in france. |
| 14:51 | owen | Yeah, dev-week is pretty much a dead-end I think |
| 14:53 | I think it's great to be able to manage that area of the OPAC with whatever content I want | |
| 14:53 | It's much more flexible and library-friendly than trying to fill that space with hard-coded OPAC stuff | |
| 14:59 | hdl | I am OK with this feature. |
| 14:59 | But I would like to port it to opac rel_3_0 | |
| 15:00 | Is it easiliy understandable and is the use easy for a librarian ? | |
| 15:00 | owen | No :) |
| 15:00 | It's just a textarea for pasting HTML markup | |
| 15:01 | I suppose you could use something like TinyMCE or FCKEditor to make it a more usable | |
| 15:03 | There are a few instances now of system preferences which expect HTML markup as input, it might not be a bad idea | |
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| 18:10 | owen | kados around? |
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| 23:04 | jamesa | greetings martin |
| 23:06 | martinmorris | hi jamesa |
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| 05:01 | darcilicious | ooooh. |
| 05:11 | chris | yeah k relays from/to freenode |
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