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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 16:34 | slef | hi saorge |
| 17:07 | hm | hi... was just wondering whether someone knows of a vmware image with koha 2.2.9 pre-installed ?\ |
| 17:08 | owen | hm, I thought I just saw something on the mailing list about that... |
| 17:10 | http://kylehall.info/index.php[…]irtual-appliance/ | |
| 17:12 | hm | :) i c ... i was actually wondering if anyone wanted mine of koha 2.2.9 on centos 4.4 vmware ... na way since it already exists one theres no need for mine! |
| 17:21 | martinmorris | evening all got a quick newbie question :) |
| 17:21 | i want the call number for a book to always be the UDC number i put in (because that's how the library works) | |
| 17:21 | is the way to do that easy and am I being thick in not finding it? | |
| 17:24 | jaron | there are a couple of different places for call numbers that koha uses |
| 17:24 | the 942 is in the bib record | |
| 17:24 | martinmorris | i've been trying the iteamcallnumber field in the system preferences |
| 17:25 | tried putting in both 080a and 080$a | |
| 17:25 | jaron | all your item stuff probably needs to be in the same field |
| 17:25 | martinmorris | how do you mean? |
| 17:26 | jaron | i think all the item level information should be mapped to a single field (952) |
| 17:27 | martinmorris | ok, i'm wondering how to do that |
| 17:27 | jaron | two ways you can go about that |
| 17:27 | martinmorris | right... |
| 17:27 | jaron | either in your MARC framework |
| 17:28 | or, erm, that other place I can't think of right now :) | |
| 17:28 | I'm not at my Koha machine | |
| 17:28 | slef | martinmorris: btw, will your library be on http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=kohausers soon? |
| 17:28 | martinmorris | hehe fair enough |
| 17:29 | yes it will slef - but i've a fair bit of cataloguing to do first! and some learning too | |
| 17:29 | and the honorary librarian will need some help getting used to it too | |
| 17:30 | anyway, 942 only seems to offer dewey or LCC | |
| 17:30 | jaron | right |
| 17:30 | look in 952 | |
| 17:31 | there are several call number fields mapped to there by default | |
| 17:31 | martinmorris | and library school didn't cover the depths of every marc tag :) |
| 17:31 | ah, that's better | |
| 17:31 | jaron | well, the 9XX are local use fields so you wouldn't have covered those much ;) |
| 17:32 | martinmorris | fair enough :) |
| 17:32 | so something in 952 will be mapped to my UDC classification? | |
| 17:33 | i'm seeing it's got the barcode and holding branch | |
| 17:33 | jaron | something in your 952 will be mapped to a Koha table--think of it as mapped to a variable |
| 17:33 | something like itemcallnumber | |
| 17:34 | martinmorris | ok let me take a llok |
| 17:34 | look | |
| 17:34 | jaron | I think you'll have to move your call number down to the 952 into the correct subfield |
| 17:36 | or have the biblio call number mapped to your UDC classification and use the biblio call number in appropriately your templates | |
| 17:37 | s/in appropriately/appropriately in/ | |
| 17:37 | what I do is run my records through a script that moves the dewey call number down to the proper 952 fields | |
| 17:38 | martinmorris | two secs |
| 17:39 | jaron | martinmorris: if you have records in Koha and then you change the framework you'll want to make sure to rebuildnonmarc before looking at the results |
| 17:39 | just ignore me until you read the scrollback :) | |
| 17:41 | martinmorris | sorry jaron trying to get off the phone! :) |
| 17:41 | jaron | no prob |
| 17:42 | martinmorris | oh, my koha server has just crashed |
| 17:42 | rebooting it | |
| 17:43 | slef | ow |
| 17:43 | that shouldn't happen - what is it? | |
| 17:44 | martinmorris | it's just a little machine i'm using to play with while i build the library's new system |
| 17:44 | jaron | what distro? |
| 17:44 | slef | Which distribution? |
| 17:44 | heh | |
| 17:45 | martinmorris | ubuntu |
| 17:45 | it's been fine for months | |
| 17:45 | slef | wow... did you see why it crashed? |
| 17:46 | martinmorris | waiting for it to come back up |
| 17:52 | looks like i forget it's a dhcp'd ip address :) | |
| 17:52 | i forgot even | |
| 17:54 | yep, it did an address refresh and teh address changed, how silly :) | |
| 17:54 | *blush* | |
| 17:59 | anyway, i see that 952k is mapped to items.itemcallnumber | |
| 18:01 | but that there' snothing in 952k when i view the MARC record | |
| 18:01 | jaron | you'll have to put something in there, right? |
| 18:01 | martinmorris | do i have to do that manually, i can't just tell it i want teh contents of 080a in there? |
| 18:02 | jaron | read over the scrollback for my other suggestion |
| 18:02 | martinmorris | ok |
| 18:09 | so i think the second option would be better, i definitely want teh UDC number to be on 080a so if i can map the call number to that it would be good | |
| 18:10 | jaron | then map the biblio callnumber or whatever it's called to where your classification number is now |
| 18:10 | martinmorris | that's the itemcallnumber |
| 18:10 | i've done that already | |
| 18:10 | jaron | itemcallnumber MUST be mapped to 952 somewhere with the rest of your item information |
| 18:10 | AFAIK | |
| 18:11 | you're looking for a bibliocallnumber | |
| 18:11 | or something like that | |
| 18:11 | martinmorris | OK, two secs |
| 18:11 | that's different from itemcallnumber then | |
| 18:11 | jaron | yes |
| 18:11 | and is used differently in the templates too | |
| 18:11 | martinmorris | ok having a look |
| 18:12 | jaron | in other words you can have both a biblio call num and an item call num |
| 18:12 | that helps out some libraries with different classification depending on library | |
| 18:12 | from what I understand | |
| 18:12 | that is some libraries have branches which will want to use different call numbers | |
| 18:13 | martinmorris | right, that doesn't apply to me but thanks for the explanation |
| 18:15 | 942j is currently mapped to biblioitems.classification | |
| 18:15 | jaron | I think that's the one |
| 18:15 | martinmorris | so i want to map that to 952k instead? |
| 18:15 | jaron | change biblioitems.classification to the field where you classification will be |
| 18:15 | dewey | jaron: that doesn't look right |
| 18:16 | jaron | be quiet, dewey. |
| 18:16 | dewey | jaron: what? |
| 18:16 | jaron | dewey: shush |
| 18:16 | dewey | jaron: excuse me? |
| 18:17 | martinmorris | i've stopped for a second... |
| 18:18 | am i changing biblioitems.classification from 942j to 952k? | |
| 18:19 | jaron | biblioitems.classification to 082a or wherever you classification lives now |
| 18:19 | I think that's what you want | |
| 18:20 | martinmorris | 080a |
| 18:20 | jaron | so go to 080a |
| 18:20 | martinmorris | after which i have to rebuild marc |
| 18:20 | jaron | yes |
| 18:20 | rebuildnonmarc methinks | |
| 18:22 | martinmorris | it's not finding C4/Context.pm |
| 18:22 | is there an environment variable i need to be setting? | |
| 18:22 | jaron | export PERL5LIB= |
| 18:22 | martinmorris | ah, of course, thanks! |
| 18:23 | jaron | for me: export PERL5LIB=/usr/local/koha/intranet/modules |
| 18:24 | martinmorris | it's doing something :) |
| 18:24 | *nervous* | |
| 18:24 | jaron | yes, 'something' is not always good :) |
| 18:24 | martinmorris | hey, it worked :) |
| 18:24 | thanks, learned something about the guts of koha there - thanks | |
| 18:25 | jaron | sure |
| 18:25 | martinmorris | now, if i want 952k to automatically be the same as 080a....? |
| 18:26 | i have to map that too within the marc structure? | |
| 18:26 | jaron | the marc structure can't do that, methinks |
| 18:26 | martinmorris | right |
| 18:26 | jaron | a script could though |
| 18:26 | martinmorris | oh i can do that in the database easily enough |
| 18:26 | jaron | koha allows for plugins |
| 18:26 | martinmorris | i just wondered if koha had a native way of doing it |
| 18:37 | slef | can use perl -I rather than export PERL5LIB for a one-off command |
| 18:38 | jaron | slef: good to know, thanks |
| 18:53 | owen | kyle_: are you not seeding that koha vmware image anymore? |
| 19:10 | slef | and business letters are even more important, if a bit tedious |
| 00:00 | martinmorris | hello me again, got a problem importing some MARC records i've generated |
| 00:00 | i'm using the intranet, and getting this message in my koha-error.log | |
| 00:01 | [Wed Jun 27 00:59:49 2007] [error] [client 10.0.0.202] malformed header from script. Bad header=MARCRECORDMARCRECORDMARCRECORD: breeding.pl, referer: http://d | |
| 00:01 | az:8080/cgi-bin/koha/import/breeding.pl | |
| 00:01 | if anybody's there and knows what that means i'd love to know too | |
| 00:01 | the records are generated in USMARC format and i'm select MARC21 at the import screen | |
| 00:01 | [K] | <rangi FreeNode> hmm, you might have to ask that one on the mailing list |
| 00:02 | martinmorris | i thought so |
| 00:02 | [K] | <rangiFreeNode> lots of MARC guru's on there |
| 00:02 | martinmorris | it's about 5,000 records in one file, that's OK I take it? |
| 00:02 | [K] | <rangiFreeNode> yeah ive done 300,000 + |
| 00:02 | martinmorris | and there's some unicode characters in there too |
| 00:03 | is there any way i can up the logging level to see more information? | |
| 00:03 | [K] | <rangiFreeNode> not that im aware of |
| 00:03 | martinmorris | ok |
| 00:12 | jaron | martinmorris: are you trying to import into the reservoir? |
| 00:12 | martinmorris | i believe so, yes |
| 00:13 | jaron | try the same records with bulkmarcimport.pl and see what you get |
| 00:13 | martinmorris | ok :) |
| 00:13 | jaron | is you database utf8? |
| 00:13 | martinmorris | they import into OpenBiblio fine i notice incidentally |
| 00:13 | yes it is | |
| 00:14 | jaron | ok, if your leader byte 9 is encoded correctly bulkmarcimport will take care of conversion from marc8 to utf8 |
| 00:14 | or at least should :) | |
| 00:14 | [K] | <rangiFreeNode> they are full records you want straight in the catalogue eh? |
| 00:14 | jaron | character encoding is a pain |
| 00:14 | martinmorris | yes they are [k] |
| 00:14 | [K] | <rangiFreeNode> not ones you want in the reserviour |
| 00:14 | martinmorris | the 000 header was automatically created by MARC::Record |
| 00:14 | [K] | <rangiFreeNode> cool, just checking |
| 00:15 | jaron | [k] is a bot |
| 00:15 | martinmorris | well, ideally i'd like them straight into the ctalogue but i thought i had to go via the reservoir |
| 00:15 | [K] | <rangiFreeNode> nope bulkmarcimport -> straight in |
| 00:16 | martinmorris | well a lot of them are working but i'm getting some errors too |
| 00:16 | jaron | what are the errors? |
| 00:16 | dewey | the errors are different. It says up-to-date check failed and terminates |
| 00:16 | martinmorris | here's an example |
| 00:16 | jaron | ok |
| 00:16 | martinmorris | looks like it's for certain " style characters that have crept in |
| 00:16 | Converting record 103 encoding from MARC8 to UTF-8 | |
| 00:16 | no mapping found for [0x80] at position 3 in ACâ197/198â? *71 #l -e1b g0=ASCII_DEFAULT g1=EXTENDED_LATIN at /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.8/MARC/Charset.pm line 210. | |
| 00:17 | yeah, and other unicode characters | |
| 00:17 | here's another | |
| 00:17 | Converting record 160 encoding from MARC8 to UTF-8 | |
| 00:17 | no mapping found for [0x9D] at position 25 in Internacia Katolika UnuiÄ?o Esperantista g0=ASCII_DEFAULT g1=EXTENDED_LATIN at /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.8/MARC/Charset.pm line 210. | |
| 00:18 | so falling over on the Ä? character | |
| 00:18 | jaron | those are both control characters |
| 00:18 | martinmorris | you're seeing them as control characters? |
| 00:18 | jaron | that's what the hex code maps to |
| 00:18 | http://www.fileformat.info/inf[…]9d&preview=entity | |
| 00:19 | martinmorris | weird |
| 00:19 | it's seeing the characters wrongly then | |
| 00:20 | i'm far from expert on that kind of thing | |
| 00:20 | that should be g with a circumflex on it | |
| 00:20 | jaron | that's what I'm seeing |
| 00:20 | martinmorris | good |
| 00:20 | jaron | could you send me one of those records? |
| 00:21 | it's hard to tell without seeing a record | |
| 00:21 | at least for me :) | |
| 00:21 | martinmorris | they're all in one file (1.5Mb) |
| 00:21 | want the lot? | |
| 00:21 | or shall i recreate one of them for you? | |
| 01:18 | CGI766 | test |
| 07:23 | toins | hi #koha |
| 09:44 | martinmorris | hello got another probably basic question |
| 09:48 | in the catalogue I've got, i want people who search for one name to be directed to another one | |
| 09:48 | and i'm not sure how to set that up | |
| 11:26 | kados | g'morning #koha |
| 11:41 | paul | hello kados |
| 11:42 | i just see : http://liblime.com/products/masterkey | |
| 11:42 | what's masterkey ? | |
| 11:43 | (technically) | |
| 11:43 | because i've got questions about OAI support in Koha, merged /multiple sources searches ... | |
| 11:43 | things that "masterkey" seems to be able to do ! | |
| 11:44 | (+ i've seen yakpac as well : very nice) | |
| 11:44 | (except flash technology, of course) | |
| 11:44 | kados | masterkey.indexdata.com |
| 11:44 | hi paul | |
| 11:44 | masterkey doesn't have OAI support, in fact, it doesn't store any data itself | |
| 11:44 | it's a metasearch engine | |
| 11:45 | it just queries other searches and merges the results | |
| 11:45 | we have a customer who will go live with it in about 3 months | |
| 11:47 | paul | wow, very impressive demo. |
| 11:48 | kados | This is the customer: http://www.schlowlibrary.org/ |
| 11:48 | they have 4 libraries that will use it to search each other's collections | |
| 11:49 | yesterday was the last day of the largest library con in the US, ALA | |
| 11:49 | many many people were interested in open source ILS :-) | |
| 11:49 | paul | some good business contacts here ? |
| 11:50 | kados | yes, met with some good people |
| 11:50 | so today I have a holiday :-) | |
| 11:50 | paul | so what are u doing here ? |
| 11:50 | kados | I'm going to see the capitol and smithsonian, etc :-) |
| 11:50 | ahh, it's still early, so I'm just catching up on email, etc. and saying hi to Paul Poulain of course :-) | |
| 11:51 | http://www.google.com/url?sa=t[…]vvi-0t_TD_l37Bv_g | |
| 11:51 | oops | |
| 11:51 | www.si.edu/ | |
| 11:51 | since they have a two letter URL you know they are rich :-) | |
| 11:51 | paul | lol |
| 11:51 | kados | it's the most prominent museum in the US I think |
| 11:52 | paul | like the louvre in Paris ? |
| 11:52 | kados | similar, yes |
| 11:52 | it was founded by a famous person, James Smithson | |
| 11:53 | he donated his wealth to the US to found the Smithsonian Institute | |
| 11:53 | (side note: they contacted me recently about Koha, but this visit is unrelated :-)) | |
| 11:55 | paul: quick question | |
| 11:55 | someone asked me yesterday about serials | |
| 11:56 | paul: do any libraries manage more than one subscription for a biblio? | |
| 11:56 | paul | yep |
| 11:56 | kados | (what if a library has 4 branches, and they order 4 issues of each serial) |
| 11:56 | paul | they create 1 subscription for each they have |
| 11:56 | kados | ok, i thought so |
| 11:57 | paul | in head, there is a "branch" filter available, to specify that this subscription is attached to branch X |
| 11:57 | kados | cool |
| 11:57 | paul | (and if IndependantBranches is ON, then the librarians will see only it's subscriptions) |
| 11:57 | on the other side, the "note" field appears everywhere | |
| 11:58 | so, you can have 2 subscriptins for the same branch, one with "public access" and one with "for reserve" (example) | |
| 11:58 | kados | ahh, cool |
| 11:59 | I think his wife just had a baby | |
| 11:59 | so he takes a couple days off :-) |
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