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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 12:18 | kados | morning all |
| 12:18 | paul around? | |
| 12:18 | or hdl? | |
| 12:18 | dewey | i heard hdl was here |
| 12:18 | hdl | yes |
| 12:19 | kados | for 2.2.9 I believe |
| 12:19 | hdl | morning kados. |
| 12:19 | kados | g'morning |
| 12:19 | hdl | Yes. |
| 12:19 | I answered him. | |
| 12:19 | Very bad publicity he does indeed. | |
| 12:19 | 1) not on bugs.koha.org | |
| 12:19 | kados | yep |
| 12:19 | hdl | 2) it is mainly a framework problem imho |
| 12:20 | kados | could you 'bounce' your reply to the list |
| 12:20 | so others can see the solution? | |
| 12:21 | hdl | But it is quite surprising to be told that on liblime demo, updating items donot work... Does it ? |
| 12:22 | kados | wow |
| 12:22 | if I edit a biblio | |
| 12:23 | I edited the biblio title | |
| 12:23 | and the title disappeared! | |
| 12:23 | maybe someone has messed up the framework | |
| 12:24 | I guess we need to have cron update the framework every day too | |
| 12:24 | jaron | At one point the framework was locked down for demo users. |
| 12:25 | kados | yea, I'll have to ask ryan about that |
| 12:25 | hi jaron, what's new? | |
| 12:25 | jaron | Not much. I was going to ask here myself about that fellow's problems. |
| 12:26 | I didn't know where to start trying to help him. | |
| 12:26 | kados | right |
| 12:26 | thanks for volunteering :-) | |
| 12:26 | you can tell him on-list that the problem is caused by incorrectly defined frameworks | |
| 12:26 | jaron++ | |
| 12:27 | jaron | This isn't a problem with 2.2.9 per se? |
| 12:27 | I haven't upgraded yet myself. | |
| 12:28 | kados | no, not a bug at all |
| 12:28 | a miss-configuration | |
| 12:31 | jaron | One of the bugs Bo reported I've run into myself in 2.2.8. |
| 12:31 | 3. When Deleting a book from Koha, the Biblio Subtitle (245b) is not | |
| 12:31 | erased from the subtitle database. When new books are added then the | |
| 12:31 | subtitles of the other books get all screwed up, Wrong, random subtitles | |
| 12:31 | for the books. | |
| 12:31 | Bugzilla Bug 1346 | |
| 12:32 | kados | hdl: can you confirm that does not happen in 2.2.9? |
| 12:33 | hdl: if we are getting reports then it is likely a problem and should be fixed asap | |
| 12:33 | jaron | I'm on mysql 5 so that's be my first guess |
| 12:34 | kados | jaron: do you see any errrs in your logs? |
| 12:34 | jaron | ah, give me a little to check.... |
| 12:34 | I'm not on that machine. | |
| 12:35 | kados | paul have you seen this bug report? |
| 12:37 | morning owen | |
| 12:37 | owen | Hi kados, what's new? |
| 12:37 | kados | nuthin much |
| 12:37 | just having a look at some recent bug reports | |
| 12:38 | it seems there are some pretty serious ones reported in 2.2.8/9 in the last few days | |
| 12:38 | owen | Yeah, I have noticed a bit of complaining on the list |
| 12:42 | jaron | kados: I check koha-error_log for the days around when I reported that bug and didn't see any errors concerning the phantom subtitle bug. |
| 12:42 | kados | paul, hdl, do you plan to investigate these bugs and fix them in the 2.2 series? |
| 12:42 | hdl | which ones ? |
| 12:43 | kados | hdl: see Jaron's post above about subtitles |
| 12:43 | jaron | hdl: this is one: Bugzilla Bug 1346 |
| 12:44 | Please let me know if you need any clarification concerning this bug. I'm the one who reported it. | |
| 12:45 | kados | hdl: bugs 1334 - 1346 all look to be un-addressed |
| 12:46 | hdl | a) is there mysql errors in koha-error log when deleting biblio. |
| 12:46 | jaron | hdl: no errors in koha-error_log |
| 12:48 | hdl | b) would you mind sending offending bibliosubtitle record, previous bibnum taht was deleted, and an instance of an other biblio with its biblionumber ? So that we could follow the problem. |
| 12:49 | jaron | hdl: All trace is gone. I've since dumped all my MARC records and imported them again to completely rebuild the tables. |
| 12:50 | hdl: I do not currently have a testing machine to replicate the problem and I'm not willing to do it on production again :) | |
| 12:50 | hdl | I understand |
| 13:14 | jaron : problem 1346 should be fixed in CVS. Could you confirm and close ? | |
| 13:15 | kados | hdl++ |
| 13:16 | jaron | hdl: sure. might not be until later that I get a chance. what file(s) changed? |
| 13:16 | kados | jaron: Biblio.pm |
| 13:16 | jaron | ok |
| 13:16 | hdl | two lines to be added. |
| 13:16 | in OLDdelbiblio | |
| 13:27 | kados | hdl: how about the other report from Bo on 'purchase suggestions' |
| 13:27 | hdl: have you seen that one? | |
| 13:30 | hdl | not on my configuration. |
| 13:31 | suggestions work ok. | |
| 13:38 | kados | the report specifically is about when you are not logged in |
| 13:54 | rch | yes, this is the case for us: no error; the suggestion is just ignored. |
| 14:12 | jaron | hdl, kados: On 2.2.8 I applied hdl's two line patch to Biblio.pm. I imported a record with a subtitle, then deleted it. Before the patch I'd be left with a record for that bib number with just a subtitle, after applying the patch I have a blank bib as it should be. |
| 14:12 | Looks like this bug can be closed. | |
| 14:12 | hdl++ | |
| 15:38 | kados | jaron: great, thanks for your help on this |
| 15:39 | hdl++ | |
| 15:39 | bbiab | |
| 15:39 | paul | 2.2.10 to release asap ? |
| 15:39 | kados | paul: no, there are more bugs to squash |
| 15:39 | Bo has reported some, and others are on bugs.koha.org | |
| 15:39 | paul | ok, waiting a little bit (and leaving for a demo tomorrow, for 2 days) |
| 15:40 | read you later | |
| 17:26 | owen | kados, are you around? |
| 17:27 | kados | yep |
| 17:27 | owen: what's up? | |
| 17:28 | owen | Has Stowe-Munroe talked to you about the downloadable audio books at all? |
| 17:28 | I'm curious if other Koha libraries are trying to address the same problems we are | |
| 17:28 | kados | no, not yet |
| 17:28 | but I know it's a biggie for the academic libraries that are interested | |
| 17:28 | they are going to need that overlay module | |
| 17:29 | owen | Module? |
| 17:29 | kados | to allow import and overlay of records |
| 17:29 | owen | Oh, right. |
| 17:29 | kados | not sure module is the best work, 'feature' is probably better |
| 17:30 | s/work/word/ | |
| 17:30 | owen | The issues don't stop there, for us |
| 17:30 | kados | no? |
| 17:30 | deletions too, eh? | |
| 17:31 | owen | We have to figure out how to work with NetLibrary's authentication scheme, which right now is IP-based. Home users are supposed to log in on NPL's site |
| 17:31 | kados | ahh |
| 17:31 | I thought we had a proxy redirect in place | |
| 17:31 | owen | So how do you catch a click from the OPAC and get the user properly logged-in? |
| 17:31 | kados | a proxy redirect ;-) |
| 17:31 | owen | :) |
| 17:32 | If it's circs Lauren wants... :) | |
| 17:32 | kados | now traditionally this would be done with ezproxy IIRC |
| 17:32 | did they mention anything about that? | |
| 17:32 | owen | No, but I'm not talking to a tech person |
| 17:33 | kados | if we have an agenda for Thursday that could be on it |
| 17:33 | remember a while ago we had some PHP script or something that was supposed to authenticate users? | |
| 17:34 | what ever happened with that? | |
| 17:34 | owen | https://www.athenscounty.lib.o[…]hoice=eaudiobooks |
| 17:34 | kados | yea |
| 17:34 | so I enter in my card number | |
| 17:35 | works like a charm | |
| 17:35 | so what's the prob? | |
| 17:35 | ahh | |
| 17:35 | you need to catch the click from the OPAC | |
| 17:35 | owen | Right. If you've got a record in the catalog for an e-audio book, what does it link to? |
| 17:36 | kados | ok, so coupla ways to do this |
| 17:36 | more than a couple actually | |
| 17:37 | probably the most elegent is to have koha regex add the redirect URL to the real URL and have a script somewhere that handles the authentication | |
| 17:37 | so you'd have something like: | |
| 17:37 | http://myacls.org/authenticate[…].org/audiobook/14 | |
| 17:37 | and it would check to make sure the user was logged in | |
| 17:39 | owen | What do you mean by koha regex? Koha is re-writing the URL coming from the MARC record? |
| 17:40 | kados | right |
| 17:40 | meant perl regex | |
| 17:41 | owen | I suppose you could build a URL click-handler that worked for all URLs, on which you could add things like pattern match conditions and redirect URLs. It would be a nice way to add click-tracking to Koha's statistics. |
| 17:41 | kados | great idea! |
| 17:42 | heh | |
| 17:45 | slef | hi all |
| 17:45 | dewey: botsnack? | |
| 17:45 | dewey | thanks slef :) |
| 17:45 | owen | kados, are other clients of yours wrestling with the issue of how to handle records without items? |
| 17:45 | kados | not vocally |
| 17:46 | but I suspect it's a problem for all koha users | |
| 17:46 | the problem with koha users is they don't want to pay for anything ;-) | |
| 17:46 | present company excluded of course ;-) | |
| 17:46 | owen | Lousy skinflints! |
| 17:46 | kados | hehe |
| 17:49 | rch | hi, slef |
| 17:50 | i notice there's a virtual shelf OO implementation with your name on it | |
| 17:50 | slef | Someone is hitting me with a shelf? |
| 17:51 | rch | not the case? |
| 17:51 | two virt shelf modules, one oo. | |
| 17:51 | kados | owen: the idea you presented wouldn't be very difficult to implement, it's in the order of the xisbn idea |
| 17:51 | 10-15 hours I'd guess | |
| 17:51 | rch | i thought i saw your name in the credits for the oo version. |
| 17:51 | slef | I'm still slapping my head against the MakeMaker problems. |
| 17:51 | kados | owen: we can discuss further on Thur if you want |
| 17:52 | slef | It's possible. I can't remember what I did last week. :-/ |
| 17:52 | kados | makemaker-- |
| 17:52 | make-- | |
| 17:52 | owen | Yeah, I'll be sure to bring it up if we have time. |
| 17:52 | slef | kados: makes(sic) it very easy to package, though. |
| 17:52 | kados | yep |
| 17:52 | owen | Does #koha really have a karma bot? |
| 17:52 | slef | BTW, did you all see the Anal Tourism Research post on librarian.net? |
| 17:52 | owen | @karma |
| 17:52 | kados | @karma make |
| 17:52 | slef | dewey: karma make |
| 17:52 | dewey | make has karma of -1 |
| 17:53 | kados | guess so |
| 17:53 | slef | Greetings from the XMPP world, by the way. |
| 17:53 | kados | greetings |
| 17:54 | neat | |
| 17:54 | slef | (which isn't in DNS, at least not yet) |
| 17:54 | owen | Anal Tourism Research post: http://community.livejournal.c[…]_mofo/489373.html |
| 17:54 | kados | hehe |
| 17:58 | slef | dewey: koha |
| 17:58 | dewey | somebody said koha was the first open-source ILS or a good free software ILS |
| 17:58 | slef | dewey: karma koha |
| 17:58 | dewey | koha has neutral karma |
| 17:58 | slef | koha++ |
| 17:59 | owen | yeah, koha++ |
| 18:02 | kados, does NPL have rapid index-updating now? | |
| 18:02 | kados | no, but they should |
| 18:02 | my fault | |
| 18:03 | owen | Weird... I just deleted something and it disappeared from search results right away |
| 18:03 | kados | well deleting might be instant |
| 18:08 | slef | Oops. |
| 18:09 | owen | kados: have you gotten feedback about an IRC dev meeting? |
| 18:09 | slef | brb |
| 18:10 | kados | owen: yep, and scheduling it is on my todo for today |
| 18:11 | about 6-8 folks responded | |
| 18:12 | owen | show-off ;) |
| 22:09 | Lea | hi |
| 22:09 | dewey | hola, Lea |
| 22:09 | Lea | long time :D |
| 22:09 | I kust popped in before going to bed. Any worg on Koha v3 yet? | |
| 22:12 | chris | hi lea |
| 22:12 | Lea | hi |
| 22:12 | chris | we are having an irc meeting to talk about that soon, paul is deploying it soon for final(ish) testing |
| 22:13 | Lea | great stuff |
| 22:13 | I'm being asked to do a load of stuff for V2 that may not be necessary | |
| 22:13 | chris | what sort of stuff? |
| 22:13 | Lea | to do with data migration |
| 22:13 | chris | ah right |
| 22:13 | Lea | i think there was also 2 showstoppers for v2: |
| 22:13 | 1. Short term loans | |
| 22:14 | 2. Holidays | |
| 22:14 | chris | ahh holidays are fixed for v2 |
| 22:14 | Lea | I believe V3 will have these |
| 22:14 | ? | |
| 22:14 | chris | and yes 3 does |
| 22:14 | holidays were just recently backported to v2 | |
| 22:14 | Lea | i would be willing to test 3 if you like |
| 22:14 | i have a full time librarian who could test it | |
| 22:14 | chris | its all in cvs :-) |
| 22:15 | Lea | ah ok :D |
| 22:15 | chris | we dont have a nice tarball install package yet, but if you check out the HEAD of cvs, thats 3 |
| 22:15 | Lea | looks like I might have to do this as well as re-engineering my entire network + servers this summer :( |
| 22:15 | chris | busy summer |
| 22:15 | Lea | ok, well it's good news |
| 22:15 | yeah | |
| 22:16 | right I need to go to bed | |
| 22:16 | it's really late | |
| 22:16 | chris | are you on the devel list? |
| 22:16 | Lea | talk in the morning if you're still up :D |
| 22:16 | no I'm not | |
| 22:16 | chris | cool :) |
| 22:16 | you might want to lurk on that | |
| 22:16 | Lea | ok |
| 22:16 | will check it out tomorrow | |
| 22:16 | chris | cool |
| 22:16 | Lea | nn all! |
| 22:16 | chris | sleep well |
| 09:59 | slef | oh for a router that is stable |
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