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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 07:52 | chris | hi paul |
| 07:52 | paul | hello chris |
| 07:53 | chris | hows things in the south of france today? |
| 07:53 | paul | how are things in NZ ? |
| 07:53 | hehe... sunny. | |
| 07:53 | chris | rainy and cold today |
| 07:53 | paul | yesterday was our 1st beach day |
| 07:53 | chris | ohh cool |
| 07:53 | paul | from 11AM to 5PM |
| 07:53 | not too hot yet, it was secure even for Matthieu (2 months) | |
| 07:54 | everybody (except matthieu) swimmed a little | |
| 07:54 | chris | :) does he like the beach? Kahurangi likes the sea breeze |
| 07:54 | and the noise of the waves | |
| 07:54 | paul | at 2 months, he was happy to sleep most of the day ;-) |
| 07:55 | a lot of bugs affected to chris of jmf... | |
| 07:55 | chris | ahh yes i see you have closed one already :) |
| 07:55 | yeah i have to go through and fix a lot, change email addresses too | |
| 07:56 | tomorrow i think we will shift bugs.koha.org to a liblime server .. | |
| 07:56 | or maybe wait till the weekend | |
| 07:56 | yep, it will be faster for you | |
| 07:56 | paul | the address will still be bugs.koha.org |
| 07:56 | chris | yep |
| 07:56 | same version too | |
| 07:56 | paul | and slower for you in NZ ? |
| 07:57 | chris | basically just dump the db, and copy it over to an install running the same version |
| 07:57 | yeah a little slower, not much though | |
| 07:57 | paul | hdl asked me a question last friday : who at liblime uses 2.2 version ? |
| 07:57 | (how many ) | |
| 07:57 | chris | hmm lots |
| 07:57 | paul | (I mean liblime customers) |
| 07:57 | and do they use official 2.2.8 ? | |
| 07:57 | or something from rel_2_2 CVS branch ? | |
| 07:58 | chris | only 2 customers use dev_week |
| 07:58 | hdl | hi chris. |
| 07:58 | paul | because a LOT of things are on rel_2_2, but NOT on 2.2.8 |
| 07:58 | chris | well the nz ones (hlt, kapiti, rdl, opus) use 2.2.8 |
| 07:58 | the US liblime ones (except ccfls, and NPL) use rel_2_2 | |
| 07:59 | paul | so all improvements about serials, routing lists... are not in NZ, right |
| 07:59 | ? | |
| 07:59 | chris | at katipo we didnt run from cvs (too dangerous) we ran from a release, and installed the bits we wanted from cvs |
| 08:00 | so Opus has 2.2.8 plus serials | |
| 08:00 | paul | how do you manage "local" adds ? |
| 08:00 | chris | we used to run our own version control and merge the changes in |
| 08:00 | paul | i'm interested because we have a few changes for some customers, and atm, we reintroduce them manually :-( |
| 08:00 | which one ? | |
| 08:00 | dewey | well, which one is that? :-) |
| 08:00 | chris | used to be cvs |
| 08:00 | now we run git | |
| 08:01 | http://dev.kohalibrary.com/cgi[…]nts.git;a=summary | |
| 08:01 | thats the git repository for the nz koha clients | |
| 08:02 | paul | can you explain how you do things when a release is done ? |
| 08:02 | (I mean an official release) | |
| 08:03 | chris | ahh, ill explain how we used to do it at katipo |
| 08:03 | we look at the changelog | |
| 08:03 | to see what new features are added and what bugfixes are added | |
| 08:04 | then we ask the clients if they want any of those new features | |
| 08:04 | if they dont, we apply whatever bugfixes we havent already applied | |
| 08:04 | if they do, we run up a copy of the latest version, using their data, and get them to test | |
| 08:05 | basically we use diff a lot :) | |
| 08:06 | but because our clients run the same version of code, we only have to make the fixes once | |
| 08:06 | paul | ah, ok. |
| 08:06 | chris | there is lots of manual work still to be done ... whereas how liblime run straight from the main cvs |
| 08:07 | paul | our problem is that our (few) local modifs are unique. For example, library X don't want to see the "dewey" line on detail.pl |
| 08:07 | chris | right |
| 08:07 | paul | library Y want to call members "chercheurs" and not "lecteurs" |
| 08:07 | ... | |
| 08:07 | chris | we try to do that with templates .. its usually changing the templates takes the longest |
| 08:07 | paul | we explain that it's harded, will cost more, but they want... |
| 08:08 | so we do... | |
| 08:08 | i'm dreaming of a tool to have all diffs somewhere & reintroduce them automatically on each official release | |
| 08:08 | chris | yeah, git makes that easier |
| 08:09 | the way it uses branches, and merging to and from branches is much better | |
| 08:09 | but still not automatic | |
| 08:10 | but instead of having 3 copies of the templates (one for each client) | |
| 08:10 | you have 3 branches | |
| 08:10 | and you make the changes in one branch, and merge that into the other 2 | |
| 08:10 | and git does most of it (except if it gets a conflict) | |
| 08:11 | eg | |
| 08:11 | cd koha-tmpl | |
| 08:11 | git checkout hlt | |
| 08:11 | edit some files | |
| 08:11 | git commit | |
| 08:11 | git checkout rdl | |
| 08:12 | git pull . hlt | |
| 08:13 | that will merge the changes we just made in hlt into our rdl branch | |
| 08:14 | oh and hi hdl :-) | |
| 08:15 | hdl | hi again. |
| 08:15 | paul | chris : yes, thx |
| 08:15 | chris | :) |
| 08:19 | the thing we can do, is with a new release | |
| 08:19 | git branch new_release | |
| 08:20 | pull in the files from the new release into there | |
| 08:20 | and test, and then merge them over | |
| 08:21 | in theory anyway, i havent tried that yet | |
| 08:21 | (maybe with 2.2.9) | |
| 08:22 | but all of liblimes US clients, run from cvs either rel_2_2 or dev_week | |
| 08:23 | which is good if no one ever commits broken code :) | |
| 08:23 | i prefer to run from releases | |
| 08:24 | but clients want things NOW, not in the next release | |
| 08:24 | so at katipo we added the features, and at liblime, they run from cvs | |
| 08:25 | we still haave to work out what we will do in the future :) | |
| 09:45 | paul | chris still around ? |
| 09:48 | chris | yep |
| 09:48 | paul | writing a mail to koha-devel for you, about "your bugzilla needs attention" ;-) |
| 09:49 | chris | ahh right, i can turn that off if its annoying :) |
| 09:49 | paul | it's annoying with this form. But I suggest something else. |
| 09:49 | chris | cool |
| 09:50 | paul | limiting the daily list to blo/cri/nor |
| 09:50 | which are obviously the bugs that needs immediate attention. | |
| 09:50 | and havin a weekly list with everything | |
| 09:51 | chris | right, at the moment its just doing the bugzilla default |
| 09:51 | paul | if you can do that, then my list will be... empty this evening ;-) |
| 09:51 | chris | but im sure you must be able to configure it somewhow |
| 09:51 | paul | mail sent, you should have it on koha-devel |
| 09:52 | chris | cool |
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