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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 12:33 | tumer | paul:online? |
| 12:48 | hdl | hi tumer |
| 12:48 | tumer | hi hdl |
| 12:49 | i thought you or paul might be interested in my recent (today) commit | |
| 12:49 | paul | hi tumer |
| 12:49 | tumer | it speeds up marcdetail and addbiblio by 400% |
| 12:49 | paul | why could be be specifically interested ? |
| 12:49 | wow !!!! | |
| 12:50 | so, i'm heavily interested ;-) | |
| 12:50 | tumer | well marcgettagslib reads 9000 lines all the time while we only use abou 100 |
| 12:51 | hdl | CHEEEERS. |
| 12:51 | toins | tumer:++ |
| 12:51 | hdl | Congratulations. |
| 12:51 | dewey | congratulations are in order i hear owen |
| 12:51 | tumer | so i added a flag to it so it only reads used ones. mysql is very fast with that |
| 12:51 | my bencharc with marcdetail jumped to 8.9/sec from 2.2/sec | |
| 12:52 | you have to check and modify it to head | |
| 13:37 | rch | paul / hdl ? |
| 13:37 | paul | hhi rch |
| 13:37 | nice to read you. | |
| 13:38 | rch | goodmorning |
| 13:39 | have a question for you, if you've got a moment | |
| 13:39 | paul | yes, if you have a moment for me as well ;-) |
| 13:39 | rch | can you explain differenct/status of old_ and ! old_ subs in Bull.pm rel_2_2 ? |
| 13:40 | s/differenct/difference/ | |
| 13:40 | paul | which ones ? |
| 13:40 | (subs) | |
| 13:41 | rch | well, theres serialschangestatus and old_serialschangestatus |
| 13:41 | but the 'old | |
| 13:42 | one looks 'newer' | |
| 13:43 | paul | I'm not sure, but I think old_xxx is something of someone from liblime. |
| 13:43 | ok, it's someone who was not at liblime when he wrote this ;-=) | |
| 13:43 | I check | |
| 13:44 | mmm... can't find it | |
| 13:45 | hdl : do you know who introduced old_xxx subs in rel_2_2 CVS ? | |
| 13:45 | hdl | no. |
| 13:45 | paul | i think it was bob or someone from katipo. |
| 13:46 | rch | yeah, i was looking for a big +400 lines or some such in cvs history, but i don't see it. |
| 13:48 | oh, ok, i see it. | |
| 13:48 | paul | rch : I confirm, bob, nov, 24, 2006 commit |
| 13:48 | rch | right. |
| 13:48 | paul | (that's why 2.2.8 don't use this branch, to avoid such surprises...) |
| 13:49 | my question now ? | |
| 13:49 | dewey : seen kados | |
| 13:49 | dewey | kados was last seen on #koha 6 days, 18 hours, 41 minutes and 22 seconds ago, saying: I'll try to resolve it today [Tue Apr 17 07:08:01 2007] |
| 13:51 | rch | yep |
| 13:52 | paul | we are waiting for some answers & directions from our beloved release manager, and he seems to have disappeared. Our list includes YUI directions, ggsoc mail, and some (few) other things. do you know when he will be back and have some time to spend for us ? |
| 13:54 | rch | kados, i think, will be largely afk for most of this week, as he's travelling. |
| 13:55 | paul | :-( |
| 13:55 | so no directions for YUI before 1 more week... | |
| 13:55 | that's a real shame... | |
| 13:55 | we also should speak of next rel_2_2 release | |
| 13:55 | and so many other things | |
| 13:57 | rch | right - as for yui, i think there is members ready to commit |
| 13:57 | paul | i'm afraid that recent hdl commit to clean members.pm will make some conflicts. |
| 13:58 | shame on me to have forgotten that we were waiting for some kados commit... | |
| 13:58 | rch | ah, likely. |
| 13:58 | paul | but a commit for members is all i'm waiting for. and kados promised it to me 2-3 weeks ago. |
| 13:59 | rch | but i think the work is on hold right now, until he returns |
| 13:59 | paul | could I know where he is/was ? (just curious) |
| 13:59 | rch | he's in NYC atm. |
| 14:01 | yes, we spend too much time on travel | |
| 14:01 | but we like it big over here :) | |
| 14:01 | paul | liblime was looking to hire a sales guy. |
| 14:01 | do you have one now ? | |
| 14:03 | rch | yes, he's working out of southeastern US. |
| 15:40 | kyle | hey all |
| 15:42 | hdl | hi kyle |
| 15:47 | kyle | I just added a new module for handling Rotating Collections, along with npl templates for it and the previously commited ClubsAndServices, all in dev_week of course |
| 15:48 | I'd welcome any feedback from everyone. | |
| 15:54 | owen | Hi kyle, what's the workflow like? |
| 15:55 | kyle | for which module? |
| 15:56 | owen | sorry--Rotating Collections |
| 15:56 | kyle | Does anyone know if there is a quick way to look up and itemnumber by barcode? |
| 15:56 | For rotating collections, you create a Collection, then add items to that collection. | |
| 15:57 | Then, you can set the library where that collection *should* be using the Transfer link. | |
| 15:57 | owen | Re: itemnumber by barcode, there's not AFAIK |
| 15:58 | kyle | After that, if the item shows up at a different library, upon return, a message will appear telling the librarian that the item is part of a collection and the item should be transferred to the library set on the RotatingCollections::Transfer screen. |
| 15:59 | owen | Sounds really nice |
| 16:00 | kyle | Thanks, I realized that we for rotating collections, we can know what library 'owns' and item, what library 'has' the item, but not what library 'should have' the item. |
| 16:01 | hdl | kyle why do clubs and services donot require admin priv ? |
| 16:02 | kyle | I couldn't decide *what* parts of clubs and services shouldn't have them. I know that the main page and the enroll page should be available to everyone, but I suppose the create archetype and create club/service pages should require admin |
| 16:04 | what do you think? | |
| 16:05 | also, I was wondering if some library systems have system-wide clubs, or if each branch has separate reading clubs | |
| 16:05 | hdl | I think Clubs ans services have to be displayed for a user. |
| 16:05 | But he should/could have to ask a librarian to get into a new club. | |
| 16:06 | kyle | I think ClubsAndServices might need to have some extra code for the IndependentBranches setting. |
| 16:06 | hdl | (depending on a syspref) |
| 16:07 | kyle | Each club or service has a publicEnrollment field. If it is 0, a librarian must enroll a borrower in said club/service |
| 16:07 | But if it is 1 (true), I would like to add a section to the OPAC to list publicly enrollable clubs and services so the patron can enroll themselves. | |
| 16:08 | hdl | Good. |
| 16:08 | kyle | I did it this way so that if the library were to offer say an e-mail list that sends the borrower a weekly e-mail of new sci-books, then they can go to the OPAC and add themselves to the mailing list. |
| 16:09 | I'm going to write a generic list mailer that will send bulk e-mails of new items based on the items itemtype and/or callnumber | |
| 16:10 | That way, we have a Mailing List archetype, with itemtype and callnumber fields, and we can create any number of mailing lists under it for Sci-Fi, Western, DVD, or whatever you can think of. | |
| 16:10 | hdl | based on overdus ? |
| 16:10 | kyle | hdl: I don't understand. |
| 16:10 | hdl | There is a letter.pm in rel_3_0.. |
| 16:10 | you can use it. | |
| 16:11 | kyle | What does it do? |
| 16:11 | hdl | I was wondering if your generic mailer would rely on the script overdues. |
| 16:11 | It is a module that was designed to help librarian with information management. | |
| 16:11 | kyle | I've never even looked at the overdues script. Would you reccomend I use that as a starting point? |
| 16:12 | hdl | It would be better to try and use Letter.pm ... |
| 16:12 | But since it is not in rel_2_2 ... | |
| 16:12 | kyle | Do you think I can backport Letter.pm to dev_week? |
| 16:14 | hdl | then you would have to create new tables. |
| 16:14 | If it is allowed in dev_week, then do. | |
| 16:15 | Otherwise, look at overdue.pl in misc. | |
| 16:15 | kyle | maybe I'll roll a quick and dirty one now, and rewrite it using Letter.pm when we switch to 3.0 |
| 16:29 | rch | paul / hdl : what's the status of code cleaning for accounts, overdues, fines in rel3? |
| 16:29 | paul | accounts = I won't do any thing, as I don't know well enough how it works |
| 16:30 | overdues & circulation = some commits to come | |
| 16:30 | (& a mail to koha-devel) | |
| 16:30 | then, i'll start heavy testing & koha 3.0NZ | |
| 16:30 | rch | i have some work to do on fines in next 2 weeks- |
| 16:31 | i'll work on dev_week, but i'd like to do it so it's easy to port to rel_3. | |
| 16:31 | paul | I don't think so. |
| 16:31 | it will have to be manual i'm afraid | |
| 16:31 | (many sub renamed & moved | |
| 16:31 | but maybe diff is better as i think ;-) | |
| 16:32 | rch | yes, well i may use rel3 to start rather than dev_week, depending on state |
| 16:33 | when do you expect to finish on overdues? | |
| 16:33 | paul | I made a mistake, and have to rollback some things |
| 16:33 | but i'm tuning & re-reading what I did | |
| 16:33 | otherwise, it's done | |
| 16:34 | rch | so all renames & moves are done? |
| 16:35 | paul | on Overdues.pm I did nothing. but on Reserves/Circ, yes, it's done |
| 16:35 | (on Overdues.pm, naming convention was OK) | |
| 16:35 | Accounts.pm is really ... un-readable for me | |
| 16:45 | rch | yes, lots of strange code in that one :) |
| 16:47 | paul | I think chris should investigate that one. as it's a koha 1.0 module, that has almost not be changed iirc |
| 19:59 | tnb | owen: you there? |
| 20:00 | owen | Yes |
| 20:00 | tnb | did NPL do away with the Book Bag? |
| 20:00 | (can you remind me... I seem to recall a decision of that sort) | |
| 20:00 | owen | Yeah. 1. Hardly anyone liked it. 2. It was broken for a long time after we switched to dev_week. |
| 20:01 | tnb | Right. Ok , that's what I thought :) |
| 20:01 | thanks | |
| 20:01 | also, FYI, there is apparently some weirdness in IE7 | |
| 20:01 | on the NPL homepage (we are doing some testing and happened to notice | |
| 20:02 | in case you didn't already know | |
| 20:02 | owen | You're talking about the library home page, rather than the OPAC? |
| 20:02 | tnb | yep |
| 20:02 | owen | Yeah, I'm trying to pretend it's not there until the new site comes online ;) |
| 20:02 | tnb | :) Good plan :) |
| 20:46 | chris | morning |
| 07:01 | atol | Hi |
| 07:02 | I'd like to run some tests with Koha on a shared webserver. | |
| 07:02 | PHP: 4.1.2 | |
| 07:02 | MySQL: 3.23.58 | |
| 07:02 | Perl: 5.6.1 | |
| 07:02 | Python: 1.5.2 | |
| 07:02 | Java: 1.3.1 | |
| 07:02 | Does that suffice as system requirements? | |
| 07:09 | Mmm, not quite sure this works ;-) | |
| 07:20 | Are there any active members at the moment? | |
| 08:31 | slef | hi all. Should I direct "Date problems adding new members" to bugs.koha? |
| 08:49 | hdl | slef : which version is it ? |
| 08:49 | 2.2.8 ? | |
| 08:50 | or dev_week ? | |
| 08:50 | dewey | dev_week is rel_2_2 with zebra ... ie, same API as rel_2_2 |
| 08:50 | slef | 2.2.8 - see koha.lists |
| 08:51 | hdl | I saw. |
| 08:53 | bugs. but should be fixed now | |
| 08:53 | I am checking. | |
| 08:54 | slef | thanks |
| 08:55 | hdl | yes. |
| 09:00 | bug fixed in CVS. | |
| 09:04 | slef | in rel_2_2? |
| 09:05 | which file fixed it? | |
| 09:08 | hdl | yes. |
| 09:08 | C4::Date | |
| 09:12 | and hav a look at diffs of memberentry.pl | |
| 09:41 | slef | thanks |
| 09:41 | I'll email a patch if no-one beats me to it | |
| 09:41 | along with a link to my patch instructions |
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