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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 13:29 | kyle | hey all |
| 13:42 | hdl | hi kyle |
| 14:49 | rch_ | hi hdl |
| 14:49 | paul | hello rch_/ryan |
| 14:50 | rch_ | hey paul |
| 14:50 | paul | it's a nightmare to test... |
| 14:50 | login as B, issue, logout, login as A, reserve, logout, login as A ... | |
| 14:51 | I use 2 differents browsers to help, but that's still a nightmare... | |
| 14:53 | rch_ | http://www.openqa.org/selenium/ |
| 14:53 | never tried it, but looks like more fun than by hand | |
| 14:55 | paul: i see hdl committed some bugfixes to serials | |
| 14:55 | paul | right. |
| 14:56 | BLO bugfix if i don't mind | |
| 14:56 | (at least CRI) | |
| 14:57 | rch_ | yes, we've found some problems with it, and are trying to resolve this week. |
| 15:00 | hdl | rch_: is this bug fix which cause a problem ? |
| 15:02 | rch_ | hdl: no. i just wanted to tell you that we're working on it, so we both don't fix bugs in different ways :) |
| 15:02 | hdl | Ok. |
| 15:02 | rch_ | i think the katipo commits on it do not abide by 1-1 biblio-biblioitems |
| 15:02 | for the routing module. | |
| 15:03 | hdl | But that bug I fixed is really a huge one. |
| 15:03 | rch_ | they put the item/issue info at biblioitem level. |
| 15:03 | hdl | Since when modifying an existing subscription would delete any exisiting serial name in serial table. |
| 15:06 | rch_ | right- i think the commits changed some functionality without thinking about anyone who was already using serials |
| 15:07 | so we are going to try to sort this out this week, and get rel_2_2 serials working | |
| 15:08 | and have a safe upgrade path. | |
| 15:08 | paul | rch_: on 2.2.8, there is nothing for serial routing, as it is based on 2.2.7, that did not have it yet. |
| 15:09 | that's one of the reason I didn't wanted to release 2.2.8 from rel_2_2. : I did some tests, and founded some problems with routing & improved subscription management | |
| 15:09 | hdl | paul : unfortunately, on rel_2_2, there are things abour RoutingList. |
| 15:09 | Asking sometimes for a routing table. | |
| 15:09 | + using claimdate. | |
| 15:09 | paul | not on 2.2.8 |
| 15:09 | or i made a mistake somewhere... | |
| 15:10 | rch_ | i have no checked out 2.2.8 |
| 15:11 | paul | commits since dec, 19 are not in 2.2.8, except for the bugfix ones. |
| 15:11 | that makes around 100 commits (mainly those of bob, waylon & mason) | |
| 15:24 | rch_ | so we will be looking to fix these problems- |
| 15:25 | I think it may require the added feature of item-level reserves. | |
| 15:25 | without which, the serials routing bit just doesn't really work. | |
| 15:25 | paul | wow... that will be a huge stuff... |
| 15:25 | (i'm afraid) | |
| 15:26 | rch_ | yes- we are committed to heavily testing |
| 15:27 | paul | mmm... /me think you're spending too much time on feature improvement for 2.2 ... |
| 15:27 | (I already told to kados, and I know he disagree with me) | |
| 15:28 | rch_ | yes, i see this - for use, though, we need a fast solution. |
| 15:29 | s/use/us/ | |
| 15:29 | so we need the routing to work on rel_2_2 | |
| 15:29 | paul | what kind of routing ? (could you explain what you need functionnaly) |
| 15:30 | rch_ | the routing module takes a list of users and automatically places a reserve on a new issue of a serial when it arrives. |
| 15:30 | paul | which is really different of the other routing method i've added to head : |
| 15:31 | when an issue arrives, print a paper, with the user list, and let's start routing. | |
| 15:31 | in french, it's called "circle routing list" (mine) vs "star routing list" (your's) | |
| 15:31 | mine is from far simple to code ;-) | |
| 15:31 | rch_ | surely :) |
| 15:32 | paul | circle routing list : each user gives the issue to the next "issuer", and in the ILS we don't know where is the item. |
| 15:32 | rch_ | ah, i see - the circle and the star. |
| 15:32 | yes, we need a star. | |
| 15:33 | paul | and having both in koha will be a great +. |
| 15:35 | rch_ | so it is okay for rel_2_2 RM to add item-level reserves ? |
| 15:40 | we plan to discuss with chris & mason late today a more specific plan - | |
| 15:40 | and to coordinate with bob (still at katipo), who did much of the routing commits | |
| 15:42 | paul | rch_: i'm not sure i'm OK to add item-level reserves. but i'm not sure kados will agree if I say no ;-) |
| 15:43 | however i'm open to speak of this, let me know what/how you intend to do this. | |
| 15:44 | rch_ | okay, i understand your concerns. will discuss late today what we need to do on our end, and present some more ideas tomorrow |
| 15:45 | there may be other ways | |
| 15:45 | which are not so scary :) | |
| 15:50 | paul | rch_: a quick question : do you spell transfer or transfert in english ? |
| 15:53 | owen | transfert is not an English word |
| 15:53 | paul | hi owen. |
| 15:53 | owen | hi paul :) |
| 15:53 | paul | so what word should we use ? |
| 15:54 | owen | Transfer, I'm assuming. |
| 15:54 | paul | when you move a book from a branch to another |
| 15:54 | (because of a reserve for example) | |
| 15:55 | and we have a branchtransfer table in Koha | |
| 15:59 | owen | yes, Transfer is the right word |
| 15:59 | paul | thanks (in french we spell it transfert) |
| 16:07 | rch_ | hi cm - did you see all those dev_week commits by mason on calendar? |
| 16:08 | he removed C4::Calendar::Calendar and kept C4::Calendar . | |
| 16:38 | hdl | rch_: paul : does anyone know where rentaldiscount comes from ? |
| 16:39 | It is now in issuingrules. | |
| 16:39 | And I donot know what it is used for. | |
| 16:41 | rch_ | i've never seen it outside the table definition. |
| 16:49 | hdl | Are there libraries that have a pay for rent ? |
| 16:50 | owen | hdl, I think some libraries charge for certain types of materials |
| 16:50 | It's something to ask chris--I suspect it might be something that originated in NZ | |
| 16:50 | hdl | OK. Can there be discounts for some borrower cats? |
| 16:53 | owen | I would think so |
| 17:35 | cm | hi rch. yeah, I saw them. |
| 17:36 | i'll probably apply them at some point. | |
| 17:38 | anybody here know what this zebra error means? | |
| 17:38 | message: error: 224 ES: immediate execution failed | |
| 17:39 | we're trying to get our script that deletes biblios without items attached to work. | |
| 17:39 | they seem to get deleted from the db but some don't get deleted from the zebra index | |
| 17:41 | rch_ | cm check to see if you lost your biblionumber 090 field in biblioitems.marc |
| 17:41 | cm | ok, I'll check. |
| 17:42 | rch_ | we were having some problems with this when importing marc8 records. |
| 17:54 | cm | yeah, there's no 090. |
| 17:54 | i thought bulkmarcimport was supposed to fix that. | |
| 17:54 | kados | rch_: we shuould port the rel_2_2 fix to dev_week asap |
| 17:55 | cm | can you make it optional to check for duplicate barcodes while you're at it? :D |
| 18:01 | rch_ | cm: the problem should be fixed as far as new data goes |
| 18:02 | cm | you mean for 090? |
| 18:02 | rch_ | but you'll have to run through your existing data and make sure you've got the 090's |
| 18:02 | cm | yeah, i was just looking into that. |
| 18:02 | rch_ | yes- recent commits to breeding.pm |
| 18:02 | cm | ok. |
| 18:02 | rch_ | and z3950 search.pl |
| 18:02 | should fix on import. | |
| 18:03 | basically just run through all your biblios and add an 090 if it's missing. | |
| 18:04 | cm | i need to clean out our db and do another test upload again anyway. |
| 18:04 | we've finally set an official migration date--May 21! | |
| 18:05 | there's a script to patch missing 090's, isn't there? i thought i remembered seeing it. | |
| 18:06 | rch_ | yes, i think so. you can also just add a line to update_items. |
| 18:07 | cm | ok. |
| 18:11 | actually, on second look, the data for 090c seems to be there. | |
| 18:12 | took me a while to realized what i was looking for. | |
| 18:12 | s/realize/realized | |
| 18:20 | kyle, are you around? | |
| 18:20 | kyle | yeah |
| 18:20 | cm | i think the scrub script might be choking on the records with duplicate barcodes. |
| 18:21 | i have an example up in my office if you want to see. | |
| 18:21 | kyle | ok |
| 18:46 | owen | Lookin' for rch_ or kados |
| 19:01 | kados | hey owen |
| 19:01 | owen | Hi kados |
| 19:02 | Did you see the message to the Koha list a few days ago about reserve fees? | |
| 19:03 | kados | ahh, I see |
| 19:03 | the $1.00 charge error | |
| 19:03 | I remember that one, I thought it was fixed in 2.2.8 | |
| 19:03 | hi paul | |
| 19:03 | paul | hi aka |
| 19:03 | hi kados | |
| 19:03 | owen | Yeah... I remember we worked on it in dev_week. I'm thinking it didn't get fixed in rel_2_2 ? |
| 19:03 | kados | ahh, could be |
| 19:07 | owen | kados: I'm wondering if you could check this out in short order or should I email the sender about trying to fix it based on the changes in dev_week? |
| 19:07 | kados | owen: sure, I'd be happy to |
| 19:07 | owen | Thanks kados |
| 19:08 | kados | I'll try to resolve it today |
| 19:21 | rch_ | paul_: are you still up? |
| 19:21 | paul_ | yep |
| 19:21 | even if my connection seems tired... | |
| 19:22 | rch_ | so item-level reserves in rel 3 ... |
| 19:22 | work for available items, | |
| 19:22 | can you reserve an item that is on loan now? | |
| 19:23 | paul | mmm... yes, of course |
| 19:23 | in fact, you must consider 2 cases : | |
| 19:23 | - there is 1 available item & X unavailable | |
| 19:23 | - all items are unavailable | |
| 19:25 | rch_ | so for biblio A, if item 1 is available, and items 2,3,4 are on issue, |
| 19:25 | i want to reserve item 4. | |
| 19:25 | is this possible? | |
| 19:25 | paul | you should be able to do it. |
| 19:54 | slef | chris: "non-ajax commenting is disabled" says your blog. Would you *please* put that on a page that I see before I waste my time typing a comment? |
| 19:54 | hi all ;-) | |
| 19:59 | bbi60+ | |
| 20:58 | quiet today | |
| 09:42 | hi rach |
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