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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 12:46 | kyle | kados, rch you around? |
| 13:19 | rch_ | hey kyle |
| 13:51 | kyle | hey rch |
| 13:51 | I need a bit of help... | |
| 13:52 | We need to be able to view items.itemnotes from the returns page. I traced it all the way back to Circ2.pm and it's passing everything, including the itemnote but for the life of me I can't get it to appear. | |
| 13:53 | I'm trying to get a dump from $template->param, but I can't find a good way to do so. | |
| 13:56 | owen | kyle, that's an interesting idea. How are itemnotes being used in your library? Are they being added via the MARC edit screens? |
| 13:58 | kyle | Basically, our current reserve system is to put a note on an item stating it is reserved, and who it is reserved for. We are going to hold off on using koha's built in reserve system until we make the switch to 3.0 |
| 13:59 | We aren't using the marc edit screen, we are using additem.pl to edit notes. | |
| 13:59 | rch_ | kyle: what about reserves don't work for you? |
| 13:59 | kyle | cindy set it up with the help of either you or kados, I can't remember who. |
| 14:00 | owen | We couldn't use itemnotes at NPL because we limit who has access to additem.pl. It'd be nice to be able to add item notes from the intranet catalog, though. |
| 14:01 | kyle | There is a multiude of reasons the librarians find the reserve system currently unusable, first being that it only tells you there is a reserve on checkin, there is no quck way to see a reserve status, and the way patrons are ordered for a resrve is screwy. |
| 14:01 | owen | kyle: what kind of reserve status are you looking for? |
| 14:01 | kyle | We could always create another page the *only* allows editing of an item note. |
| 14:03 | So, for now we'll just use our old system, and either someone else will fix the reserve system, or I'll work on it. | |
| 14:03 | owen | kyle: NPL runs an automated script that "fixes" the reserve ordering nightly. It means that staff can't re-order the reserve list, but it prevents other problems. |
| 14:03 | I'm not sure what Koha would do if you told it that every person in a 20-reserve list had priority 1, but Koha would let you do it. | |
| 14:04 | kyle | I guess we need to be able to reorder patrons, and be able to move patrons so that a particular person is always last on the list. |
| 14:04 | I know, that is a very big flaw imho | |
| 14:05 | do you know if anyone is working on the reserves system actively? | |
| 14:05 | owen | I believe Liblime is... rch_? |
| 14:05 | kyle | We have homebound patrons who reserve dozens of items and such, and keep them for months, so they get last priority to make it more fair for other patrons. |
| 14:06 | rch_ | no, it's not big on the list... other circ work is coming, though |
| 14:06 | kyle: i think you want to look around line 450 of returns.pl ? | |
| 14:06 | owen | kyle: interesting. So for you guys a patron-type-weighted reserve list would be ideal |
| 14:06 | kyle | If no one else is working on it, I can volunteer some time, but right now we are focusing on switching over. |
| 14:07 | owen: somthing like that would work. | |
| 14:07 | rch_ | kyle: you should just be able to add: $ri{itemnotes} = $iteminformation->{'itemnotes'}; |
| 14:07 | and it should be available in the riloop tmpl loop | |
| 14:08 | kyle | rch: I see, I'll give that a try. |
| 14:09 | owen | kyle, notice there is already a "notes" field for reserves (in request.pl). We always ignore it, though, because it doesn't get used anywhere else :| |
| 14:09 | kyle | owen: that should probably be removed then. It's good to see some real kruft removal being done on Koha. |
| 14:10 | rch: it doesn't look like that helped any. | |
| 14:10 | owen | well, my question is, is that a more sensible place to put the notes that you're talking about? |
| 14:12 | kyle | in our current system, we use the standard notes field, so it doesn't matter to use. Using the common notes field is just find, and extends it's usefulness to other things. |
| 14:12 | it's simpler and more convenient to just use item notes. | |
| 14:14 | rch, I got it working, I put the line too early in the script. My next question is: why don't we just push all the item information wholesale, and let the template designer choose which information to display>? | |
| 14:14 | owen | kyle: I'd encourage you to file enhancement bugs for the changes you'd like to see in reserves. You'll find some from me in there. |
| 14:15 | kyle | owen: we'll do that. |
| 14:16 | rch_ | kyle: only reason would be to save a few bytes of memory |
| 14:17 | kyle | rch: and I think that in this day and age, it's not worth causing so much pain to save a few bytes on servers with 2 gigs of RAM or more. |
| 14:17 | Even on a low-end system I don't think it would cause performance issues. | |
| 14:18 | owen | the more people that use it the more useful it will be! |
| 14:19 | kyle | agreed |
| 14:20 | cm | kyle: so what did you want me to explain? |
| 14:20 | kyle | rch: how do I undo my last commit, I just overwrote returns.pl with my returns.tmpl ; ( |
| 14:21 | rch_ | doh! |
| 14:21 | :) | |
| 14:21 | kyle | cm: don't worry about it, we'll submit an enhancement request with our suggestions. |
| 14:21 | indeed ; ) | |
| 14:21 | I just had a head crash. | |
| 14:21 | cm | ok. don't forget we have the list in mantis. |
| 14:22 | kyle | cm: ok. |
| 14:22 | cm | kyle, you crash your computer about as often as you get stuck in the elevator! |
| 14:22 | rch_ | kyle: i'm actually not sure... I've just committed over my mistakes... but i imagine there's a better way |
| 14:22 | kyle | cm: that's what I get for pushing it too far ; ) |
| 14:22 | cm | :) |
| 14:23 | kyle | that's a good idea, I can do that, thanks. |
| 14:23 | cm | at least 7 or 8 times since we hired him! |
| 14:23 | kyle | rch: *alot* our elevator has it in for me, I think it's been twice as much as cindy's estimate ; ) |
| 14:24 | cm | i've been here almost 9 years and I've never gotten stuck in it. :P |
| 14:24 | kyle | cm had better watch out, the elevator knows all and sees all ; ) |
| 14:25 | cm | he he! i'd better start taking the stairs. |
| 14:26 | rch_, how are the tweaks to due dates/holidays coming? | |
| 14:32 | rch_ | cm: what's your status on that? I thought the bugs were worked out? |
| 14:33 | Ah - you needed only to change the due date if it landed on a holiday, right? | |
| 14:33 | whereas it is currently calculating loan length as number of non-holiday days? | |
| 14:33 | cm | yeah, exactly. |
| 14:34 | right now it always adds the holiday to the due date, not just when the due date is a holiday. | |
| 14:34 | i chatted with kados a while ago and he said you guys would fix it. | |
| 14:35 | rch_ | okay - i'll look at it this morning |
| 14:35 | cm | thanks. it's definitely something we need before we officially migrate. |
| 14:41 | kyle | any progress on switching the rules for checkouts from the items homebranch to the logged in branch. |
| 14:52 | cm | i almost forgot about that. |
| 17:38 | rch_ | kyle: , cm: committed Calendar.pm -> set syspref 'useDaysMode' to 'Datedue', and loan length should calculate properly. |
| 17:39 | cm | cool, rch. i'll try it. :) thanks! |
| 17:40 | rch_ | re: the branch thing... if you're around later this afternoon, can discuss it then |
| 18:27 | cm | kados, are you in? |
| 18:27 | I just set your demo intranet to our template to show it to someone, and now I can't change it back! | |
| 18:40 | never mind, it refreshed itself. | |
| 18:40 | the ccfls version of the template on there is a bit old, I think. The Intranet tab is missing from the system preferences so I couldn't change it back. | |
| 18:56 | rch_, are you back from lunch yet? | |
| 18:58 | I updated Calendar.pm, and now there's an error when I issue. | |
| 19:01 | rch_ | hi cm |
| 19:01 | what's the error? | |
| 19:01 | dewey | i think the error is not recoverable: exiting now |
| 19:01 | cm | hi. |
| 19:02 | ] Undefined subroutine &C4::Calendar::Calendar::Add_Delta_Days called at /usr/local/koha/intranet/modules/C4/Calendar/Calendar.pm line 501., referer: http://circ.ccfls.org/cgi-bin/[…]borrower=25199323 | |
| 19:02 | [Mon Apr 09 14:52:48 2007] [error] [client 192.168.1.210] Premature end of script headers: circulation.pl, referer: http://circ.ccfls.org/cgi-bin/[…]borrower=25199323 | |
| 19:03 | rch_ | ah, uncomment |
| 19:03 | use Date::Calc | |
| 19:03 | cm | ah-ha. |
| 19:03 | it is uncommented. | |
| 19:04 | in Calendar.pm, anyway. Is that where you mean? | |
| 19:04 | rch_ | yep. |
| 19:04 | i'm not sure what the status is of Date::Manip in that module. | |
| 19:05 | cm | it's commented. |
| 19:14 | rch_ | cm: sorry... brb |
| 19:14 | cm | okay. |
| 19:22 | rch_ | cm: |
| 19:22 | use Date::Manip; | |
| 19:22 | use Date::Calc qw/Add_Delta_Days/; | |
| 19:24 | cm | okay. |
| 19:25 | I also noticed that in the docs you have Datedue but in the actual perl you have Duedate. | |
| 19:26 | aah, that seems to have worked. :) | |
| 19:26 | i'll stick a holiday in there just to be sure. | |
| 19:29 | yep, it's still correct. Thanks! | |
| 09:46 | hdl | tumer hi |
| 09:48 | tumer[A] | hi hdl |
| 10:05 | sinantena | hello! |
| 10:06 | i'm in europe maybe its still to early in new zealand for people to be conected!!! | |
| 10:06 | is this the koha help chat room?? | |
| 10:08 | tumer | hi:sinantena we are not all in new zealand, i am in cyprus |
| 10:08 | sinantena | haha i figured that not everybody was in new zealand.. it was just a joke.. to break the ice ;-) |
| 10:08 | anyway i am looking for help with installing koha i am totally lost | |
| 10:09 | tumer | if its on a windows box i may help otherwise wait for others |
| 10:10 | sinantena | ah ok well the thing is that i wanted to install it on a remote server. |
| 10:10 | not on my own personal server | |
| 10:11 | tumer | youu need root access privileges on whatever server you are installing it on |
| 10:12 | sinantena | yeah i figured that would be a problem.. its a comercial server that my company contracted i only have root acces to our account |
| 10:13 | tumer | well already sounding linux box privileges and this is beyond me |
| 10:16 | sinantena | hehe ok iĺl come back later when more people are online |
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