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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 03:23 | hdl | helo |
| 03:34 | paul | hello |
| 04:14 | Lea | hi ppl |
| 04:29 | hdl | hi Lea |
| 04:38 | Lea | I'm really getting there with my migration. I may have to update the wiki with what I've done. I've written some handy scripts for data migration from this particular system. |
| 10:17 | everyone asleep? | |
| 10:18 | paul | frenchies don't sleep atm... |
| 10:18 | it's 4PM in france ;-) | |
| 10:18 | Lea | frenchies lol! |
| 10:18 | hi paul :D | |
| 10:18 | paul | hi lea |
| 10:19 | Lea | i've pretty much got my data migration sorted, apart from creating subjects (This can wait). I'll be looking at creating a custom intranet/opac. I was thinking of doing this via Joomla! CMS. Have you had any experince with creating custom front ends? |
| 10:20 | paul | hehe... we were just speaking, hdl & me of this question... |
| 10:20 | Lea | oh right :D |
| 10:20 | hdl | yes. |
| 10:20 | paul | Lea ask : I was thinking of doing this via Joomla! CMS. Have you had any experince with creating custom front ends? |
| 10:20 | Lea | well, I'll be creating a joomla component or something so maybe I can help? |
| 10:21 | hdl | Good. |
| 10:22 | I find joomla more difficult to add bots than Drupal. | |
| 10:22 | And Drupal **seems** more active from a module development point of view. | |
| 10:22 | Lea | tbh, i dont really mind. But last time i looked at drupal, it seemed only good for blogs |
| 10:23 | hdl | tbh ? |
| 10:23 | Lea | to be honest |
| 10:24 | i did setup a drupal site and I got to a point where i could allow people to comment on my news and there didn't seem to be anything else i could do | |
| 10:24 | owen | Like what, Lea? |
| 10:25 | I'm re-doing my library's site in Drupal, and find it works well to handle our fairly static content | |
| 10:25 | hdl | There are now Plenty of modules. |
| 10:26 | paul | hi owen |
| 10:26 | hdl | hi owen. |
| 10:26 | Lea | hi owen |
| 10:26 | owen | (Hi everyone :) ) |
| 10:26 | Lea | :) |
| 10:26 | hdl | owen : Drupal 5 or 4.7 ? |
| 10:26 | owen | 5 |
| 10:27 | Lea | i just found drupal to be too basic. Maybe i had a bad experience. |
| 10:27 | hdl | Is joomla more sophisticated ? |
| 10:28 | Lea | it seemed to be |
| 10:28 | hdl | and is it "userfriendly" ? |
| 10:28 | Lea | like it's really easy to have multiplingual sites |
| 10:28 | yeah, seemed to be | |
| 10:28 | owen | I found Joomla to be too "CMS-like" I didn't feel I could customize it very well to go with our site and its content |
| 10:29 | hdl | It seems to. (I am testing it) |
| 10:29 | Lea | ah, i think that's what i was looking for. |
| 10:29 | paul | what do you mean by "CMS-like" ? |
| 10:29 | owen | But that doesn't have anything to do with whether it's a good system |
| 10:29 | I mean that it seemed like Joomla sites always looked like Joomla. Same blocks here, same blocks there | |
| 10:29 | paul | ah, ok |
| 10:29 | Lea | yeah, this is true |
| 10:30 | hdl | The fact is that library would really appreciate to have a blog-like site. |
| 10:30 | Becaus most of the time, they will present with events in the library ? | |
| 10:30 | owen | I think it would be great to be able to incorporate Koha into a CMS. I think it would really expand its appeal |
| 10:30 | Lea | yeah, it would |
| 10:30 | hdl | owen do you agree with me ? |
| 10:30 | Lea | well, I have no CMS bias so I'm happy to develop for either |
| 10:31 | owen | If you ask kados, he'll tell you it should be Plone |
| 10:31 | hdl: about a blog-like site? | |
| 10:31 | hdl | yes. |
| 10:31 | owen | I think it's not necessarily true. |
| 10:31 | We have an active events calendar, but a blog-like presentation wouldn't work for our needs. | |
| 10:32 | Lea | ah, I know what annoyed me about Drupal: We have 3 libraries and i couldn't find an easy way to split the content. |
| 10:32 | owen | Split it how? |
| 10:33 | Lea | well, ideally, i'd like to allow the librarian on each site to edit their own "subcontent" area |
| 10:33 | so the front end is an overall library page, but people can go into "mini-sites" | |
| 10:35 | owen | I've heard others say that they were dissatisfied wtih Drupal's user-role/permissions management. I haven't run into it because of the limited number of people who will contribute content for our site |
| 10:35 | Lea | maybe I'll give it another shot. I did find joomla! to be somewhat "cluttered" |
| 10:35 | heh, it's kinda like Gnome VS KDE | |
| 10:36 | owen | I don't know anything about CMS module development, but I know lots of the "big" PHP apps have been ported to multiple CMSes |
| 10:36 | I wonder how hard incorporating Koha will be given it's not PHP? | |
| 10:37 | paul | owen : I may know the answer ... |
| 10:37 | I have integrated Koha with a PHP software (not a public one) | |
| 10:37 | Lea | if you are just calling cgi scripts with GET/POST vars then no at all |
| 10:38 | paul | (and not a CMS, but it was PHP & I think I've meet some/most of the problems ) |
| 10:38 | Lea | *not at all |
| 10:38 | paul | the main problem is authentification ! |
| 10:38 | you need to create the koha cookie as well as the mySQL DB entry. | |
| 10:38 | it's not a big problem, but has to be done carefully | |
| 10:38 | (mainly to manage user branch for example) | |
| 10:39 | (as the user branch may not exist out of Koha) | |
| 11:01 | Lea | ok, so how can i help with drupal/koha integration? |
| 11:03 | hdl | Everything has to be done. We are at the begining. |
| 11:06 | I wanted to look at Gallery2 module | |
| 11:06 | To see how it was integrated with gallery. | |
| 11:06 | And use it as a base for Koha module development. | |
| 11:10 | Lea | ok, well for now I'll develop some custom static pages and see about just displaying them in drupal |
| 11:10 | i think proper integration is much harder, IE, user logging in to drupal = logging in to koha etc |
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