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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 12:14 | rch | kyle: easy, but not trivial, as it's in the code quite a few times... |
| 12:15 | paul | kados : OpCat saving to koha fixed : modif seems to work fine now. update your svn |
| 12:16 | kados | paul: great |
| 12:16 | paul: I will send you and antoine some info on proper handling of important fields like leaders and fixed fields | |
| 12:17 | paul | ok. |
| 12:17 | kados | some js work has alredy been done for this in Evergreen |
| 12:17 | so we can just use that :-) | |
| 12:17 | paul | feel free to send bugs you're seen on koha 3.0 too, I will work on them next week |
| 12:17 | kados | ok |
| 13:28 | hdl | kados : around? |
| 13:28 | Have you ever written an XML File with Perl ? | |
| 13:31 | kados | hi |
| 13:31 | never to the filesystem | |
| 13:31 | I have created web services | |
| 13:31 | ie, export as XML to apache | |
| 13:32 | hdl | Have you created them with XML::Simple |
| 13:32 | kados | yes |
| 13:33 | hdl | Can you tell me more about how to tell XML::Simple to consider a name as an element with no attributes ? |
| 13:34 | kados | not without looking at docs :-) |
| 13:34 | example? | |
| 13:34 | dewey | i think example is 750 #0$aSummer resorts$0(DLC)sh85130430$wna |
| 13:35 | hdl | I have looked. |
| 13:35 | But hard to understand. | |
| 13:37 | kados | sure |
| 13:37 | give me an example of what you want to do | |
| 13:39 | hdl | http://pastebin.funraill.org/8[…]28913a47faf332a6/ |
| 13:39 | I want to write back configuration file | |
| 13:40 | (pastebin.ca down) | |
| 13:42 | I want to tell XML::Simple that directory has no attributes but cannot see any option, so that it takes config as attribute and uses its value. | |
| 14:07 | cm | rch or kados, are you in? |
| 14:08 | kados | hi cm |
| 14:08 | cm | hi. |
| 14:08 | i'll have one with pineapple. :) | |
| 14:08 | kados | hehe |
| 14:09 | cm | i realized we need to adjust how the due date is calculated relating to holidays. |
| 14:09 | kados | hdl: to be honest, i really worry about any application that writes out a config file |
| 14:09 | hdl: it's a big security risk to have anything writable by your webserver | |
| 14:09 | cm | right now, i think it always adds the holiday to the due date. |
| 14:09 | kados | hmmm |
| 14:10 | what is your expectation? | |
| 14:10 | cm | it really should only bump it up if the due date would fall on the holiday. |
| 14:10 | otherwise, it should ignore it. | |
| 14:10 | kados | interesting |
| 14:11 | hdl: hear that? | |
| 14:11 | hdl | yes. |
| 14:11 | kados | hdl: did san-op do the holidays management? |
| 14:11 | hdl | Normally yes. |
| 14:11 | cm | i think rch wrote the latest bit. |
| 14:11 | kados | ahh |
| 14:12 | cm | some of our librarians have been. :) |
| 14:12 | kados | hehe |
| 14:13 | hdl | cm : I think what you told is the expected way to act. |
| 14:13 | kados | cm: rch says he just merged what's been written into dev_week |
| 14:13 | cm: so whatever the intended behavior is that's how it's been written | |
| 14:14 | we could easily adapt it | |
| 14:14 | cm | i think we will need to. |
| 14:14 | i can give you an example. | |
| 14:14 | we count sundays as holidays here. | |
| 14:14 | hdl | kados : I would like to add kohaversion information to configuration file. |
| 14:15 | I know this can be a security risk. | |
| 14:15 | cm | i checked out a dvd today with an issuing period of 4 days. |
| 14:15 | kados | hdl: can't we put it in sysprefs? |
| 14:15 | hdl | No. |
| 14:15 | kados | why? |
| 14:15 | hdl | Web installer is not supposed to look into db on 2 first steps. |
| 14:16 | kados | hdl: why? |
| 14:16 | cm | it gave it a due date of wednesday, when it really should have been tuesday. |
| 14:16 | kados | hdl: it would be smarter if it could ;-) |
| 14:16 | cm: right | |
| 14:16 | hmmm | |
| 14:16 | hdl | Because I test if there is db connection and all third parties softwares installed. |
| 14:17 | kados | cm: ok, we'll take care of it |
| 14:17 | cm | cool. :) |
| 14:17 | kados | cm: so basically it just needs to check to make sure that today isn't a holiday? |
| 14:17 | I mean ... | |
| 14:17 | the due date | |
| 14:17 | hdl | yes. |
| 14:17 | kados | check to see if the due date is a holiday |
| 14:17 | cm | yeah. you beat me to it. :) |
| 14:17 | kados | then if it is, increment it by one |
| 14:17 | cm | exactly |
| 14:17 | kados | no prob |
| 14:18 | cm | thanks! |
| 14:18 | kados | might take a day or two |
| 14:18 | hdl | Not By One. |
| 14:18 | kados | we've got a backlog atm |
| 14:18 | cm | not a problem. |
| 14:18 | hdl | becaus it can be a holiday too. |
| 14:18 | cm | so do i. ;) |
| 14:18 | kyle | cindy: http://search.cpan.org/dist/Tk-MARC-Editor/ |
| 14:18 | kados | hdl: right, so we should check for the next non-holiday |
| 14:19 | cm | kyle, is that a perl module? |
| 14:20 | kyle | Sort of, it's a perl module and a small program that uses said perl module. |
| 14:20 | cm | hmm...i see it's a widget. i'll have to try it. thanks. |
| 14:22 | rch | cm: kyle: opencataloger is looking pretty good as well. |
| 14:22 | toins++ | |
| 14:23 | kados | kyle: have you used it? |
| 14:23 | kyle: Tk-MARC I mean | |
| 14:24 | kyle | nope, I let cindy handle most marc-related stuff |
| 14:24 | except when she needs a script to manipulate bulk marc records | |
| 14:25 | where can we get opencataloger? | |
| 14:25 | kados | it hasn't been packaged yet |
| 14:25 | cm | it's on gna.org but i can't get to the project's homepage. |
| 14:25 | nothing there. | |
| 14:25 | kados | and it doesn't handle fixed fields or leaders yet |
| 14:26 | cm | that's not good. |
| 14:26 | kados | I'm working with toins to improve it |
| 14:26 | I think we're ready to dump the current koha marc editor wholesale | |
| 14:26 | for serious marc editing | |
| 14:26 | cm | i was bemoaning to kyle that there isn't a version of MarcEdit for linux yet. |
| 14:26 | kados | it's just too flakey |
| 14:26 | cm | yeah. i've found that out. |
| 14:26 | kados | opencataloger has a much better framework |
| 14:27 | hdl | kados : So, A little file in modules will keep kohaversion and tell if koha was installed. |
| 14:27 | kados | hdl: in modules? |
| 14:27 | hdl | it is the directory taht is known by both OPAC and intranet. |
| 14:28 | If not modules, where ? | |
| 14:28 | kados | in sysprefs ;-) |
| 14:28 | I know you don't want step 1 and 2 of the installer to check for the db | |
| 14:28 | but I think it should ... and if it doesn't find one, it can continue as normal | |
| 14:29 | otherwise, if it does find one, it can get the kohaversion | |
| 14:29 | and continue by updating | |
| 14:29 | IMO that's the best design choice | |
| 14:30 | hdl | Will do then. |
| 14:30 | kados | hdl: maybe we could have a vote on koha-devel about this? |
| 14:30 | hdl | No need for a vote. |
| 14:30 | kados | hdl++ |
| 14:30 | hdl | Writing a little file nowhere is not a good solution IMO. |
| 14:31 | That is why I wanted to write it on an wml file. | |
| 14:31 | But It seems that writing an xml file with perl is a nitghmare. | |
| 14:31 | if it is not a VERY simple file. | |
| 14:32 | kados | hehe |
| 14:32 | yea | |
| 14:32 | XML::Simple is only simple with simple XML :-) | |
| 14:32 | hdl | I donot know if you glanced at the link I put on irc. |
| 14:33 | But xml produced is really strange to me. | |
| 14:33 | And I donot have time to look. | |
| 14:33 | It is a shame because I think taht xml and xsl would help us in many ways. | |
| 14:33 | If we could write and parse it correctly. |
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