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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 12:27 | kados | morning owen |
| 17:49 | owen: back? :-) | |
| 17:57 | owen | Yeah, I'm still here. In and out. |
| 17:57 | kados | http://www.yui-ext.com/deploy/yui-ext/docs/ |
| 17:58 | that's a great example of well designed UI, plus it's docs on YUI at the same time :-) | |
| 17:58 | I love that you can hide the sidebar | |
| 17:58 | I bet the librarians would go nuts for that | |
| 18:00 | check out the slick TabPanel example | |
| 18:00 | combines various types of tabs into one | |
| 18:02 | ohhh, the Layouts one is nice too | |
| 18:03 | owen | Yeah, there's a lot of neat stuff there. |
| 18:03 | kados | talk about web 2.0 |
| 18:03 | we'd own with some of these features :-) | |
| 18:06 | and the back button works, that's what amazes me | |
| 18:06 | like the feed viewer 2 | |
| 18:06 | as well | |
| 18:10 | looking at the source, it's interesting, because there's nothing particularly sematically correct about it :-) | |
| 18:12 | owen | That doesn't sound good. |
| 18:17 | kados | owen: what do you think about the idea of having a folder->file view for the sidebar in the intranet? |
| 18:26 | owen | I'm not opposed to the idea of having javascript-driven expanding menus, but I'm not personally a fan of the folder file metaphor for navigation |
| 18:31 | I think you have to be careful with navigation like that not to reduce the 'target zone' for clicks. | |
| 18:32 | kados | http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/grids/builder/ |
| 18:32 | maybe we should start with some layout ideas | |
| 18:33 | we could probably pick three or four layout designs to cover the whole intrnaet | |
| 18:33 | I'm guessing | |
| 18:38 | owen | Last time I checked out the YUI CSS layouts they were fixed-width only. Looks like there's a little more flexibility now |
| 18:38 | kados | yea |
| 18:38 | though I have to say, I'm warming up to fixed width designs :-) | |
| 18:39 | owen | I'd love to see examples of where you think a fixed design is working better than a fluid one. |
| 18:40 | Koha is a special beast since it's not strictly a "reading" kind of site, so there is that. | |
| 18:40 | kados | yea |
| 18:40 | the parts that I usually find work well fixed are things like sidebars | |
| 18:40 | owen | Sites with fixed designs wich lots of text content often bother me because I can re-size the text and still get a comfortable layout |
| 18:40 | can -> can't | |
| 18:40 | kados | yea |
| 18:41 | here's an example | |
| 18:41 | http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/grids/ | |
| 18:41 | compare the resizing behavior when you make your browser narrow | |
| 18:41 | with what NPL's intranet does | |
| 18:42 | owen | Are you thinking of the minimum width setting on the central content area? |
| 18:43 | kados | yea, and the fact that unless you increase the text size the left-hand bar is always the same size |
| 18:44 | owen | Yeah, that's what we've got with the OPAC now--a fixed left column. |
| 18:44 | kados | basically this I guess: |
| 18:44 | http://developer.yahoo.com/yui[…]example_doc3.html | |
| 18:46 | so this actually is starting to make sense | |
| 18:49 | owen | :) How so? |
| 18:50 | kados | well the layouts are amazingly simple to create |
| 18:50 | it's basically just a bunch of divs with some classes | |
| 18:50 | and a few js libraries | |
| 18:54 | owen | Time for me to head out. Talk to me again about this stuff next week if you get time |
| 18:54 | kados | will do |
| 18:54 | have a good weekend | |
| 18:54 | owen | You too |
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