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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 20:09 | cori | Hi, I need help with installing Koha |
| 20:12 | we ran the perl install script, and set everything up, but we don't know where to put koha files | |
| 20:12 | was that supposed to be automatically handled by the install.pl script? | |
| 20:12 | mason | hiya cori, u on a windows or linux box? |
| 20:12 | cori | ubuntu |
| 20:13 | edgy eft | |
| 20:13 | mason | cool, try /usr/local/koha |
| 20:14 | install.pl should have installed koha to that dir | |
| 20:14 | cori | should the entire contents of the koha-2.2.7 folder go in that folder? |
| 20:15 | mason | you downloaded the koha-2.2.7.tar file ? |
| 20:15 | cori | yes |
| 20:15 | we ran the install.pl script, and it is reporting back as installed | |
| 20:16 | mason | cool |
| 20:16 | so , have u got a /usr/local/koha dir now? | |
| 20:17 | cori | yes, I'll try running it now |
| 20:17 | mason | ah, answer to your 'should the entire contents of the koha-2.2.7 folder go in that folder?' question is no |
| 20:18 | cori | yeah, I get this error from a web browser: The requested URL /cgi-bin/koha/mainpage.pl was not found on this server |
| 20:19 | mason | right, you might need to do a little apache configing to set that up |
| 20:20 | hmm, i guess edgy is running apache2 | |
| 20:20 | cori | yes, what is the apache configuration that we need to do |
| 20:20 | we put Include /etc/koha-httpd.conf into the apache2.conf | |
| 20:21 | mason | let me just check... |
| 20:21 | cori | is koha not compatible with apache2? |
| 20:21 | mason | yes, it is |
| 20:24 | cori | it looks like my koha conf files all refer to /usr/local/koha but my apache server files use /var/www |
| 20:24 | do I need to change any settings in apache? | |
| 20:25 | mason | weve got a koha running with apache2 here |
| 20:25 | cori | yes |
| 20:26 | mason | looks like the /etc/koha-http.conf file is moved into /etc/apache2/sites-available |
| 20:28 | cori | what should the default intranet url be for my koha server? ... what is the "index.html"? |
| 20:28 | mason | and a symlink is made from /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/koha-http.conf to ./etc/apache2/sites-available/koha-http.conf |
| 20:29 | kados | cori: did you run the installer? |
| 20:29 | cori | yes |
| 20:30 | mason | ah, the installer asks you for the default koha and opac urls... |
| 20:30 | kados | so just make sure there's a line in your apache.conf file |
| 20:30 | something like: | |
| 20:31 | Include /usr/lib/koha/etc/koha-http.conf | |
| 20:31 | and then edit that file as needed for your local config | |
| 20:31 | mason | look for a line like |
| 20:31 | # KOHA's INTRANET Configuration | |
| 20:31 | <VirtualHost koha.koha.hostname.com:81> | |
| 20:35 | thanks josh :) | |
| 20:35 | cori | I see it, |
| 20:35 | thanks | |
| 20:37 | mason | you might need to add your new <VirtualHost> name to your dns or hosts file too |
| 20:37 | if its not getting resolved properly... | |
| 20:41 | cori | it looks correct |
| 20:42 | mason | great |
| 20:43 | cori | except it's not working |
| 20:45 | is there a highly recommended lamp configuration for koha that's publicly available, that involves minimal post install adjustments? | |
| 20:46 | a koha install that could work out of the box? | |
| 20:46 | kados | cori: some knowledge of apache, mysql and linux is a requirement for running a complex tool like Koha |
| 20:47 | cori: otherwise, there are hosted solutions managed by koha companies | |
| 20:47 | cori: http://liblime.com/products/ko[…]ha-classic-hosted | |
| 20:47 | for instance :-) | |
| 20:48 | cori | I had heard about Libime |
| 20:48 | I think someone called you Josh, if you're the same Josh at Liblime | |
| 20:48 | kados | yep, that's me |
| 20:51 | cori | I'm interested, I'll be in touch. thank you all. |
| 21:30 | thd-home | kados: are you still there? |
| 21:30 | kados | thd-home: my flight was delayed |
| 21:30 | thd-home: it leaves at 8:00 now :/ | |
| 21:30 | (they keep pushing it back) | |
| 21:31 | thd-home | kados: the Marriot La Guardia hotel is at the airport itself or across a street from the airport. |
| 21:32 | kados | cool |
| 21:33 | thd-home | kados: are you returning Wednesday? |
| 21:34 | kados | yes, wednesday evening |
| 21:35 | and a meeting back in athens on thursday :( | |
| 21:35 | busy week | |
| 21:36 | thd-home | kados: I will be in Westchester county on Wednesday so it would have to be tomorrow if we were going to meet. |
| 21:36 | or tonight :) | |
| 21:38 | kados | thd-home: I was just thinking that I might need to meet up with randy tonight to go over the strategy for tomorrow |
| 21:38 | thd-home: what time tomorrow are you avaialble? | |
| 21:39 | thd-home | I have no specific plans for tomorrow so I should be available most any time. |
| 21:40 | The airport is about an hour and a half from lower ( the southern part) Manhattan by city bus and subway | |
| 21:41 | kados: other forms of transport are faster but cost real money. | |
| 21:41 | kados | right |
| 21:42 | ok, well I'll find out my schedule from randy and get back to you on a time | |
| 21:43 | thd-home | kados: I understand why you asked about LC possibly discontinuing MARC support now |
| 21:43 | kados | did you see the recent minutes from the first meeting? |
| 21:44 | LCWGMinutes110306 | |
| 21:44 | here's an interesting blurb: | |
| 21:44 | "A particularly salient issue is how, and to what extent, | |
| 21:44 | libraries can fit with the world of search engines. She believes that libraries exist to connect | |
| 21:44 | people with content; therefore the challenge for libraries is how to make the library experience | |
| 21:44 | thd-home | kados: I think it just means that some of the documentation was being maintained by someone who may have retired and not replaced. |
| 21:44 | kados | easier for users and how to serve users more directly. A wide range of library literature makes it |
| 21:44 | clear that users consider library catalogs antiquated and not very user-friendly. She had found | |
| 21:44 | that LC catalogers, when asked to face this reality, tended to have two responses: first, | |
| 21:44 | agreement that users have difficulty using the catalog; and second, that the catalog is actually | |
| 21:44 | better than most users realize, if only librarians would educate users. | |
| 21:46 | of the roughly 132 million items in the Library of Congress collections, | |
| 21:46 | probably no more than 15 million are represented by bibliographic records in the LC Online | |
| 21:46 | Catalog. | |
| 21:46 | Dr. Marcum recalled that at the recent Digital Library Federation meeting, Judith Nadler | |
| 21:46 | had said that we should not try to fix existing systems; rather, we should try to pretend that we | |
| 21:46 | had just arrived on Earth from Mars, so that we could consider how we would create systems of | |
| 21:46 | bibliographic access if we were unencumbered by the past. | |
| 21:46 | that sounds to me like they want to replace marc | |
| 21:47 | thd-home | kados: I think the real problem is that the OPAC, and I mean none of them is anywhere near what it could be as a tool which guides users to finding what they are seeking. |
| 21:48 | kados | yea |
| 21:49 | thd-home | kados: Judith Nadler wants a scorched earth policy to library systems design. |
| 21:50 | kados | wow, their action items are daft |
| 21:50 | not a single one will result in anything | |
| 21:51 | loc-- | |
| 21:51 | thd-home | kados: we could certainly do a better job starting from nothing but no one has the funding to do that job of building a new elegant system. |
| 21:52 | kados | yea :( |
| 21:52 | maybe some day :-) | |
| 21:53 | thd-home | kados: there is the danger that the future of bibliographic control committee is just some pretence of consultation so it would not matter that the committee accomplished nothing. |
| 21:55 | kados: LC management could simply use it as something to point to when they go ahead with their own plan. | |
| 21:58 | kados: LC was only doing about a third of the work for series authority control so, while the impact is bad where that matters it is not catastrophic for series authorities. | |
| 21:58 | s/catastrophic/fatal/ # it is catastrophic for series authorities | |
| 22:00 | kados | thd-home: talk to you soon |
| 22:00 | thd-home | pleasant flying |
| 10:20 | toins | hi all |