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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 11:16 | atol | To Paul: Sorry, was away from the computer |
| 11:16 | You can mail me at danny.aerts [a] atol.be if you want to try such an import. | |
| 11:17 | Thanks for the help! | |
| 11:46 | cm | morning all |
| 11:46 | i found some problems with Calendar.pm that kept me from deleting repeatable holidays, | |
| 11:46 | but I fixed it. | |
| 11:47 | can I send somebody a diff? | |
| 11:59 | hdl | cm : yes please send me. |
| 12:05 | cm | do you want it in the chat you just opened? |
| 16:29 | kados, do you have a moment? | |
| 16:29 | kados | cm: sure, what's up? |
| 16:30 | cm | i have a question about how zebra is sorting by publication date |
| 16:30 | kados | hehe |
| 16:30 | cm | uh oh... :) |
| 16:30 | kados | well it's not zebra's fault |
| 16:30 | it's MARC :-) | |
| 16:30 | cm | is it looking at 008 or 260c or what? |
| 16:30 | kados | my guess is that any weirdness you're seeing is because your dates are formatted like this: |
| 16:30 | cm | yeah, i'm not suprised, given the state of our marc records. :) |
| 16:30 | kados | c2004 |
| 16:30 | or | |
| 16:30 | p1999 | |
| 16:31 | i think i wrote a blurb about this somewhere, lemme track it down | |
| 16:31 | cm | yeah, that's certainly a possible culprit. |
| 16:31 | i imported a record from NPL and it sorted properly, so I figured it was our data. | |
| 16:32 | kados | cm: http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]rchingdefinitions |
| 16:32 | cm: have a look at the "Dates" section there | |
| 16:32 | cm | okay, cool. |
| 16:33 | kados | melm 008 ln:n:range(data,35,3),ctype:w:range(data,24,4),Date:n:range(data,0,5),Date:s:range(data,0,5),Date:n:range(data,7,4),Date:s:range(data,7,4),Date:n:range(data,11,4),Date:s:range(data,11,4),pubdate:n:range(data,7,4),pubdate:s:range(data,7,4),dateaddeddb:n:range(data,0,5),dateaddeddb:s:range(data,0,5),pl:w:range(data,15,3),ta:w:range(data,22,1),ff8-23:w:range(data,23,1),ff8-29:w:range(data,29,1),lf:w:range(data,33,1),bio:w:range(data,34,1), |
| 16:33 | that's the 008 line | |
| 16:33 | Date:s:range(data,11,4) | |
| 16:34 | cm | so it's indexing by what's in 008? |
| 16:34 | kados | tells you there's a sort index (the s) on the range 11-14 |
| 16:34 | that's one way | |
| 16:34 | cm | yes, i've been staring at the zebra documentation. :) |
| 16:34 | kados | melm 260$c Date,Date:s,Date:y |
| 16:34 | there's another sort index on Date | |
| 16:34 | looks like there isn't one for 362 | |
| 16:34 | yet | |
| 16:34 | cm | hmm, mine doesn't have Date:y. |
| 16:35 | what does the :y do? | |
| 16:35 | kados | that'd be the year index |
| 16:35 | think I was just experimenting with it | |
| 16:35 | cm | ok. |
| 16:35 | kados | the marc data's not consistantly 4 chars long so it didn't work IIRC |
| 16:35 | so if you want to sort accurately by date | |
| 16:35 | cm | that makes sense. |
| 16:35 | kados | you'll need to pick a field or fields to 'normalize' |
| 16:36 | let me know if you need more info | |
| 16:36 | cm | probably 260$c would be our most 'normal'. |
| 16:36 | kados | yea |
| 16:36 | so you coul remove the sort index on 008 | |
| 16:36 | if you wanted to just have one place to deal with | |
| 16:36 | cm | okay, simple enough. |
| 16:36 | i'm fairly certain a lot of our dates in 008 are wrong. | |
| 16:37 | thanks! | |
| 17:22 | _paul | hello russ |
| 17:23 | paul | does NZ know that Matthieu Poulain is born on sunday, 11:26AM ? |
| 17:23 | russ | i didn't |
| 17:23 | congrats paul | |
| 17:23 | paul | so now you know ;-) |
| 17:24 | russ | :-) |
| 17:24 | mother and baby well? | |
| 17:24 | paul | 3.530kg, 52cm. The smallest of our 4 boys... |
| 17:24 | yep. They'll be back home tomorrow morning. | |
| 17:24 | my wife mother is here to help us for almost 2 weeks. | |
| 17:26 | russ | so she can look after the boys while you work on koha? ;-) |
| 17:27 | paul | right. Even if i'll work only a few in march probably (and not very efficiently) |
| 17:35 | chris | congratulations paul |
| 17:35 | paul | thx |
| 17:35 | chris | ill be waiting to see photos :-) |
| 17:35 | paul | you will have to wait 1-2 days. |
| 17:38 | chris | paul: my sister had her son on thursday |
| 17:38 | so Kahurangi has his first cousin | |
| 17:39 | paul | how is Kahurangi ? |
| 17:39 | chris | very good, 3 months and 1 week old now (time goes fast) |
| 17:39 | paul | are your night sleepy ? |
| 17:40 | or does he still need some milk ? | |
| 17:40 | chris | last night he woke up quite a bit |
| 17:40 | paul | (Jérémie, our 3rd boy, needed * |
| 17:40 | chris | but usually he sleeps 6 or 7 hours |
| 17:40 | paul | 9* months to do complete nights...) |
| 17:40 | chris | :-) |
| 17:41 | paul | did you hear 6nations cup results ? |
| 17:41 | france is the only country that won it's 3 matches. | |
| 17:41 | only 2 and "grand chelem" is for us ! | |
| 17:42 | the biggest surprise coming from italy that had it's 1st victory outside of Italy since she is involved in the tournament | |
| 17:43 | chris | yeah that was pretty amazing |
| 17:43 | france plays england this week eh? | |
| 17:45 | paul | yep. and not in france, but in england. |
| 18:00 | chris | hmm england will want to bounce back too ... vive la france :-) |
| 20:49 | tumer | i am really here after 10 days of international disturbance |
| 20:50 | russ | hi tumer |
| 20:50 | tumer | any real kohers around? |
| 20:50 | hi russ | |
| 20:50 | chris | international disturbance? |
| 20:51 | tumer | a conference on environment--nothing about koha |
| 20:51 | chris | ahh right |
| 20:52 | tumer | even new-zelandeders didnot know about koha to my suprise |
| 20:53 | 108 countries 700 people only one frenech heard koha! | |
| 20:53 | chris | heh |
| 20:54 | any librarians? | |
| 20:55 | tumer | but at least 79 universitieies from turkey decided about a workshop on koha in september --To be environtenlally secure !!!! |
| 20:55 | chris | wooo hoo :) |
| 20:56 | need a new zealander to come along? :) | |
| 20:56 | tumer | no all acacdemicians aboutt everthing |
| 20:56 | but i managed to confirm that environementally KOHA is secure | |
| 20:57 | chris | :) |
| 20:57 | tumer | i whish you were here |
| 20:58 | the guy from new zealand did not not know know KOHA and poor guy felt out of plcae | |
| 20:59 | althought the conference were on environment. But KOHA is vevrything right? | |
| 20:59 | chris | hehe exactly |
| 20:59 | mason | hiya tumer |
| 20:59 | tumer | hiya mason |
| 21:03 | chris: i am reading that Tery Rees wrote things not nice about KOHA and GPL licence software | |
| 21:03 | chris | oh yeah really? |
| 21:03 | who is Tery Rees? | |
| 21:04 | tumer | its a shame that he has one of the best MARC modules avalaible on GPL for MARC |
| 21:06 | chris | but he doesnt like GPL ? |
| 21:06 | tumer | me just reading previous corresponce. TR from oregon university is Terry rEEs |
| 21:06 | chris | ahhhh |
| 21:06 | yes | |
| 21:06 | he doesnt really get it | |
| 21:06 | its a bit of a shame | |
| 21:06 | tumer | are you with me ? about TR? |
| 21:07 | chris | yep, i commented on his blog entry |
| 21:07 | i think joshua might see him at the code4lib conference, so maybe he can show him Koha in person | |
| 21:08 | because i dont think he has actually looked | |
| 21:09 | tumer | yep and this person has the best Marc tool on GPL and keep recoomending him in all blogs |
| 21:09 | chris | yep |
| 21:10 | I mention NEU in my last comment :) | |
| 21:11 | tumer | i will read everything next week |
| 21:11 | chris | cool |
| 21:14 | tumer | chris: btw are you a father now? |
| 21:14 | chris | yes indeed, 3.5 months now |
| 21:14 | hdl | paul is 4times father ;) |
| 21:15 | chris | and paul had another son |
| 21:15 | hi hdl | |
| 21:15 | hdl | tumer any link to terry Ree |
| 21:15 | hi chris. | |
| 21:15 | tumer | you should bring them to to cyprus for christening |
| 21:15 | chris | http://oregonstate.edu/~reeset/blog/archives/417 |
| 21:15 | good idea tumer :) | |
| 21:15 | tumer | hdl:hi |
| 21:16 | them:/he/she | |
| 21:17 | chris | mines a he :) |
| 21:17 | tumer | good for for, less problems |
| 21:17 | sorry rest???? | |
| 21:18 | chris | http://photos.bigballofwax.co.[…]DSC02520.JPG.html <-- theres a photo |
| 21:20 | tumer | wow, a real KOHA'er and hansome |
| 21:20 | chris | hehe |
| 21:21 | tumer | i bet he was saying taking ne to Cyprus |
| 21:22 | KOHA is better in spellenig then I am!!! | |
| 21:23 | chris | :) |
| 21:23 | tumer | s/spelleing/spelling and so on |
| 21:24 | hdl | solong |
| 21:24 | tumer | any way nice to find you all.And see you here some time |
| 21:25 | here /Cyprus | |
| 21:26 | with the handsome kid i hope | |
| 21:26 | chris | yep definitely |
| 05:00 | toins | hello all |
| 05:07 | chris | hi toins |
| 05:07 | toins | hi chris, how are you ? |
| 05:16 | chris | good thanks, how are you? |
| 05:22 | toins | fine too |
| 08:51 | Lea | Hi! Anyone awake? :D |
| 10:50 | hdl | lea hi |
| 10:51 | Lea | hi hdl. |
| 10:52 | i had a quick question: The data I've got exported from this windows system is MARC21, but it contains barcode information. Now I've got no issues with converting this data into a bibliography set, but what strategy should i employ on importing items | |
| 10:57 | hdl | Lea : You have to |
| 10:58 | a) create a biblio | |
| 10:58 | b) create an item attached to this biblio | |
| 10:58 | You can use NEWnewbiblio and NEWnewitem. | |
| 10:59 | with the same record (It is OK). | |
| 10:59 | STOP | |
| 10:59 | you'll get a problem |
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