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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 12:28 | paul | kados around ? |
| 12:40 | kados | hi paul |
| 12:40 | paul | hi kados |
| 12:41 | kados | I will be gone from Jan 17 - Jan 23 at ALA |
| 12:41 | then I'll be on holiday from Jan 23 to Feb 7 | |
| 12:41 | Feb 8 actually | |
| 12:42 | so today is probably the best time to talk | |
| 12:42 | about 3.0 timeline | |
| 12:43 | paul | OK, so I begin : |
| 12:43 | * SANOP is live with Koha 3 since jan 3rd, and things are confirmed to be smooth (official message from jerome pouchol to come very soon on infoskoha-fr.org) |
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| 12:43 | kados | excellent! |
| 12:44 | paul | * i'll set rel_3_0 on IPT very soon too |
| 12:44 | * jan, 22, i organize a day for testing with 8 users, from 6 libraries | |
| 12:44 | (ENSMP, EMN, IPT, sociologie, IEP Lyon, in2p3) | |
| 12:44 | kados | really great news! |
| 12:45 | paul | toins has just 1 minor feature to add (let the user flush it's reading history or choose to never flush it, for improved services) |
| 12:45 | kados | ahh, good |
| 12:45 | much needed | |
| 12:45 | paul | then, feature freeze (so many things already added...) |
| 12:45 | kados | well ... |
| 12:45 | paul | (i mean feature freeze for us !) |
| 12:45 | kados | ahh, ok |
| 12:46 | what about mysql 5? | |
| 12:46 | paul | s/for us/from us/ |
| 12:46 | kados | does san op use 4.1? |
| 12:46 | toins | kados, i have no pb with mysql 5.0 |
| 12:46 | kados | toins++ |
| 12:46 | so it sounds like we're very close | |
| 12:46 | paul | (although SANOP is with 4.1 iirc) |
| 12:47 | that's my opinion too. | |
| 12:47 | kados | however, I don't want to jump the gun on the actual release |
| 12:47 | paul | jump the gun ? |
| 12:47 | kados | I would prefer to do a lot of testing |
| 12:47 | 'jump the gun' is an idiom for 'move too fast' | |
| 12:49 | it's a good goal | |
| 12:49 | but I hesitate to say a specific date | |
| 12:49 | paul | So, what could be your timeline ? |
| 12:49 | kados | because IMO it's better to define a set of features |
| 12:49 | at least for a major project like 3.0 | |
| 12:50 | otherwise, we'll end up right where we were with 2.0 | |
| 12:50 | more important to make sure all features are working as expected before a major release IMO | |
| 12:51 | no 'workarounds' or 404/500 errors, links that don't work, features that don't work as expected or are undocumented, etc. | |
| 12:51 | paul | right. and my test day + 2nd setup at IPT is there to improve testing. |
| 12:51 | kados | excelletn |
| 12:51 | excellent even | |
| 12:51 | paul | (because SANOP 1st don't use acquisition, and 2nd is a public library, with differences compared to a specialized one) |
| 12:51 | kados | unfortunately, although we planned to use rel_3 for SMFPL and for BPL, when we tested it, it was very buggy and we had to go back to dev_week |
| 12:52 | paul | BPL ? |
| 12:52 | kados | Barberton Public Library |
| 12:52 | another Ohio library | |
| 12:52 | paul | what kind of bugs ? when did your test occured ? |
| 12:52 | kados | it was some weeks ago |
| 12:52 | soon after I told you we planned to use rel_3 | |
| 12:53 | so maybe things are fixed now | |
| 12:53 | I haven't personally tested, though I know rch has done some testing | |
| 12:53 | I also can say that there are many many improvements in rel_3 | |
| 12:54 | obviously the french team has been working hard :-) | |
| 12:55 | I don't want to hold up the release, I just want to make sure it's a 3.0 release for French and US libraries | |
| 12:56 | paul | http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]opment:roadmap3.0 is really outdated & shows many improvements that have been done, don't show some that have been done too, & don't point improvements that are abandonned/later |
| 12:56 | I could update it. | |
| 12:56 | kados | that would be great! |
| 12:56 | paul | then we could decide what we do with "not done" features. |
| 12:56 | kados | I think our development cycles were offset from each other |
| 12:57 | LibLime invested much in development in early 2006 and then we got burned out | |
| 12:57 | then the french team took over :-) | |
| 12:58 | perhaps we can work on more frequent communications about plans in 2007 | |
| 12:58 | and now that LibLime has a full time sales person I will have more time for planning | |
| 12:59 | and development | |
| 12:59 | unfortunately, Jan and Feb are for training and some holiday for me :-) | |
| 12:59 | so I may not get much done then ... | |
| 13:00 | paul: another question I had recently concerns HEAD | |
| 13:00 | paul: is it possible to make rel_3_0 HEAD? | |
| 13:00 | I think it's a better base to start from than the current state of HEAD | |
| 13:00 | cvs-- | |
| 13:00 | paul | (on phone) |
| 13:00 | kados | ok |
| 13:06 | paul | kados : back |
| 13:07 | your question, iic, is to overwrite HEAD with rel_3_0, right ? | |
| 13:07 | kados | yes |
| 13:07 | paul | the next question being : what do we do with tumer head ? |
| 13:07 | we create a branch "tumer" ? | |
| 13:07 | kados | make it neu_branch |
| 13:07 | or something | |
| 13:07 | dewey | something is not recognising the value actually in the leader. |
| 13:07 | kados | in fact, we should have done that first :-) |
| 13:07 | paul | right. |
| 13:08 | kados | looking back it seems correct |
| 13:08 | is it possible in CVS? | |
| 13:08 | paul | but we planned to have a rel_3_0 stable quite quickly... |
| 13:08 | it's always possible, but I think it need : | |
| 13:08 | - create the neu_branch | |
| 13:08 | - cp *.(tm)pl from rel_3_0 to head | |
| 13:09 | (on a local copy) | |
| 13:09 | - commit everything | |
| 13:09 | so, not really automated | |
| 13:09 | kados | it's a lot of work :( |
| 13:16 | paul | kados : not so much work. anyway, we should do this after an IRC meeting imo |
| 13:16 | kados | sure |
| 13:17 | paul | do you think rch could give a try to rel_3_0 once again and report the problems he meet ? |
| 13:17 | kados | yes, it's planned for next week actually |
| 13:17 | paul | really great !!! |
| 13:18 | Ill be here all the week (except 1 -yet unknown day, where i'll be at SANOP) | |
| 13:18 | Ill be here all the week (except 1 day, where i'll be at SANOP -yet unknown, probably monday-) | |
| 13:18 | kados | ok |
| 13:18 | paul | hdl is here too. |
| 13:18 | kados | so it's a good opportunity for collaboration |
| 13:18 | I'll tell rch | |
| 13:18 | he should be in the office soon | |
| 13:18 | (he had the morning off) | |
| 14:37 | paul | kados : wiki roadmap updated. bye & have a good week end. |
| 14:37 | paul_weekend | on monday i'll be at SANOP, so let's see you & rch_ on tuesday |
| 14:38 | kados | ok, have a great weekend, thanks! |
| 15:14 | toins | bye world, have a good week end. |
| 17:29 | slef | Is NZ likely to get the DMCA disease? http://artemis.utdc.vuw.ac.nz:[…]le/tags/Copyright |
| 17:34 | chris | its starting to look that way unfortunately |
| 17:35 | but its going to select committee, where people can make submissions, and there seems to be a lot of opposition to it | |
| 17:35 | so theres hope yet | |
| 17:36 | slef | :-/ |
| 17:36 | chris | if it gets thru select committee, then it still has to be passed in parliament |
| 17:37 | but i wouldnt want to count on that bit failing, the only chance is to stop it in select committee | |
| 17:38 | slef | Does gov.nz listen to people not in nz or is this something those in nz have to tackle themselves? |
| 17:40 | chris | it listens to ppl outside nz far to much, specially those promising free trade agreeements :) |
| 17:40 | slef | heh |
| 17:40 | chris | i think that partnering with someone in nz, and helping them wih research/preparing a good submission would be the most effective way |
| 21:40 | qiqo | hi folks |
| 21:43 | i just want to ask if the windows version of koha has barcode printing capabilities | |
| 05:05 | js | hello |
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