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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 11:32 | owen | toins, are you still there? |
| 11:32 | toins | owen, yep |
| 11:33 | owen | Are you familiar with acquisitions? |
| 11:33 | kados | hehe |
| 11:33 | hi guys | |
| 11:33 | toins | hi kados |
| 11:34 | owen, what 's your problem with acquisition ? | |
| 11:34 | kados | toins: you may want to see the few commits Ryan and I have made to dev_week, cleaning up a couple of minor bugs |
| 11:34 | owen | I'm curious about the screen that shows "Receive a new Parcel" |
| 11:34 | Parcel Code and Freight. | |
| 11:35 | What values should be entered there? | |
| 11:35 | toins | kados, ok |
| 11:35 | hdl | kados : what about mod_perl problems ? |
| 11:36 | kados | hdl: mod_perl probs? |
| 11:36 | hdl | Do you have mod_perl installations running ? |
| 11:36 | toins | kados, is npl under mod_perl ? |
| 11:36 | CAN seems to have some mod_perl specific bugs | |
| 11:37 | kados | npl is running mod_perl ... what bugs? |
| 11:41 | hdl | for circulation.pl, shelves.pl and branches.pl |
| 11:42 | Do you use shelves module ? | |
| 11:43 | kados | yep |
| 11:44 | what are the bugs? | |
| 11:44 | but not sure ... | |
| 11:44 | toins | kados, yes perhaps |
| 11:44 | hdl | in rel_2_2 it crashes FF. |
| 11:44 | kados | hdl: mod_perl ? |
| 11:45 | hdl | yes |
| 11:45 | owen : Parcel Code is a code you enter in order to retrieve easily the parcel. Could be the parcel # from bookseller, could be any code you want. | |
| 11:45 | owen : Freight is for freight fees. | |
| 11:49 | owen | Okay, that's what I thought, but I wanted to make sure |
| 11:51 | kados | hi tumer |
| 11:51 | dewey | it has been said that hi tumer is still strugling |
| 11:51 | kados | tumer: hdl and I were wondering if you have been working on XSLT stuff? :-) |
| 11:52 | hdl | hi tumer. |
| 11:52 | dewey | i think hi tumer is still strugling |
| 11:52 | hdl | dewey : forget hi tumer |
| 11:52 | dewey | hdl: I forgot hi tumer |
| 11:52 | toins | hi tumer |
| 11:52 | hdl | dewey : forget tumer |
| 11:52 | dewey | hdl, I didn't have anything matching tumer |
| 11:53 | tumer | kados: i tried that once when i was doing metakoha records |
| 11:53 | used xml-libxslt ;impressive | |
| 11:53 | hdl | was it slow ? |
| 11:54 | tumer | but need lots of xslt knowledge to define sheets so i left it |
| 11:54 | hdl:it was fast | |
| 11:55 | you gain speed by not converting xml to koha perl hashes anyway | |
| 11:59 | hdl | Do you still use your metakoha record ? |
| 12:07 | toins | kados, do you use a specific configuration for mod_perl ? Or a configuration like writed on the wiki ? |
| 12:09 | http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=mod_perl | |
| 12:12 | tumer_ | to whom it may concern:wiki.koha.org is not readable with IE. The left menu covers the documents and its frustating! |
| 12:12 | kados | toins: which wiki page? |
| 12:12 | toins: I can compare to NPL's config | |
| 12:13 | toins | this => http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=mod_perl |
| 12:15 | owen | What does it mean, on acquire.pl, "(that all costs are for 1 item)" ? |
| 12:15 | kados | toins: startup.pl is not included |
| 12:16 | and it looks like the handlers are commented out currently | |
| 12:16 | toins | ah ? and so you defined the PERL5LIB in the virtual host ? |
| 12:16 | kados | I have: |
| 12:16 | <Directory /koha/opac/cgi-bin/> | |
| 12:16 | PerlSetEnv PERL5LIB "/koha/intranet/modules" | |
| 12:16 | PerlSetEnv KOHA_CONF "/koha/etc/koha.xml" | |
| 12:16 | </Directory> | |
| 12:16 | for the OPAC | |
| 12:17 | toins | ok thanks |
| 12:19 | kados, and where do you writed your koha is under mod_perl ?? | |
| 12:20 | hdl | back |
| 12:20 | kados | toins: originally I had it in perl.conf file ... but I see it is commented out currently |
| 12:21 | toins: so mod_perl is enabled, but Koha doesn't use it currently (but it looks like I did test it, so I'm not sure why it's not being used) | |
| 12:24 | toins | hum... |
| 12:27 | so we can't know if there are some mod_perl bugs in the npl installation... | |
| 12:29 | kados | toins: right ... sorry :( |
| 12:30 | toins | kados, no problem... |
| 12:30 | kados | maybe I panicked at the last moment and turned it off just in case :-) |
| 12:30 | (the migration was done in a hurry as you recall) | |
| 12:31 | paul_ | kados : (hello) what sounds strange to me is that SAN-OP did some harness testing today and : |
| 12:32 | - with mod_perl activated, they have big problems (like editing a page works only 1 every 2 times) | |
| 12:32 | - without mod_perl, they have awful performances (really : 20s to get a page) | |
| 12:33 | paul | could you send me your NPL apache config files (all of them) to see if I can explain why response times are so nightmare ? |
| 12:33 | hi tumer | |
| 12:33 | tumer | hi paul |
| 14:01 | owen | kados? |
| 14:01 | dewey | kados is becoming a true Perl Monger... |
| 14:01 | kados | hey owen |
| 14:01 | dewey: forget kados | |
| 14:01 | dewey | kados: I forgot kados |
| 14:02 | kados | owen: looks like you committed a fix to the acquisitions, eh? |
| 14:02 | shall I test it out? | |
| 14:02 | owen | Yeah, hopefully it's working now. |
| 14:07 | kados | owen: looks like it's working! |
| 14:07 | I'll update dev_week and get SMFPL to test it out | |
| 14:07 | owen: thanks! | |
| 14:07 | owen | Sure thing. |
| 14:07 | And I answered my own question, so I don't have anything to ask you :) | |
| 14:07 | kados | hehe, cool |
| 14:08 | paul | kados : we face a very very strange problem with mod_perl... |
| 14:08 | kados | paul: what's that? |
| 14:08 | paul | a few script are failing miserabily : circulation.pl / branches.pl for example |
| 14:08 | the 1st time you call them, it works, the 2nd time it may works, then, empty forms... | |
| 14:09 | the db handler seems to have "disappeared", or returns nothing at all. | |
| 14:09 | kados | have you tested dev_week? |
| 14:09 | paul | but we have strictly no errors. |
| 14:09 | nope | |
| 14:09 | toins | kados, dev_week is the same thing |
| 14:09 | kados | circ does some tricky stuff |
| 14:09 | I suspect there are some problems with the way it's written (not mod_perl safe) | |
| 14:10 | toins | circulation shelves & branches.pl don't work with mod_perl on rel_3_0 and on dev_week |
| 14:10 | paul | can you explain why SANOP has so bad perfs without mod_perl and NPL didn't ? |
| 14:10 | toins | kados, on this 3 script there are some internal sub |
| 14:10 | paul | because the server is quite a good one. |
| 14:10 | toins | it may be the problem |
| 14:11 | kados | paul: so without mod_perl it seems slow? |
| 14:11 | paul | no, it IS slow |
| 14:11 | kados | hmmm |
| 14:11 | paul | (like 20/30 seconds to get a page) |
| 14:11 | kados | does rel_3 have Date::Manip ? |
| 14:12 | paul | (under medium load : 30 persons testing it. |
| 14:12 | kados | very strange |
| 14:12 | paul | in circulation => toins cleaned D::M |
| 14:12 | kados | is my.cnf optimized to handle query cacheing? |
| 14:13 | here are NPL's settings: | |
| 14:13 | # 25-33% of memory changed by JF | |
| 14:13 | key_buffer = 1G | |
| 14:13 | max_allowed_packet = 16M | |
| 14:13 | thread_stack = 128K | |
| 14:13 | thread_cache = 8 | |
| 14:13 | # Try number of CPU's*2 for thread_concurrency | |
| 14:13 | thread_concurrency = 2 | |
| 14:13 | # was 128 | |
| 14:13 | tmp_table_size = 256M | |
| 14:13 | table_cache = 512 | |
| 14:13 | sort_buffer_size = 2M | |
| 14:13 | record_buffer = 2M | |
| 14:13 | query_cache_limit = 5M | |
| 14:13 | query_cache_size = 128M | |
| 14:13 | query_cache_type = 1 | |
| 14:14 | also, try logging slow queries: | |
| 14:14 | log_slow_queries = /var/log/mysql-slow-queries.log | |
| 14:14 | long_query_time = 1 | |
| 14:14 | (means log all queries that take longer than 1 sec) | |
| 14:14 | and try to find out if the bottleneck is in perl or in mysql | |
| 14:14 | you can use mytop to see active mysql processes | |
| 14:14 | those are some of my ideas :-) | |
| 14:17 | paul | kados : could you copy your apache config as well ? |
| 14:23 | kados | yep |
| 14:23 | I use apache2 conventions for apache conf | |
| 14:24 | so it is split between several files | |
| 14:24 | in ports.conf I have | |
| 14:24 | Listen 80 | |
| 14:24 | and | |
| 14:24 | NameVirtualHost 66.213.78.76:80 | |
| 14:24 | NameVirtualHost 66.213.78.77:80 | |
| 14:24 | then in sites-enabled/ I have two conf files: | |
| 14:24 | intranet.athenscounty.lib.oh.us.conf | |
| 14:24 | search.athenscounty.lib.oh.us.conf | |
| 14:25 | paul: I will email you those files | |
| 14:26 | paul | kados & alaurin : do you have apache2 or apache1 ? |
| 14:26 | kados | paul: mailed |
| 14:26 | alaurin | we have apache 2 |
| 14:27 | paul | kados : i was interested by httpd.conf |
| 14:27 | kados | why? |
| 14:27 | paul | to find any diff between SAN & NPL |
| 14:28 | in apache core config | |
| 14:28 | kados | ahh, ok |
| 14:28 | it's just debian standard | |
| 14:28 | I'll email it to you | |
| 14:28 | it's broken into sections, so the mods aren't in the apache2.conf proper | |
| 14:28 | toins | kados, the most import file is site-enables/default |
| 14:29 | kados | but are in their dirs |
| 14:29 | toins | sites-enabled/000-default |
| 14:30 | kados | toins: mailed to paul |
| 14:30 | toins | ok |
| 14:30 | kados | so now you should have all the conf files |
| 14:30 | what distro do you run on? | |
| 14:30 | paul | mandriva for me & SANOP |
| 14:30 | ubuntu for toins | |
| 14:30 | kados | we use debian sarge |
| 14:30 | paul | I have to leave now. see you tomorrow for the 2nd part of this story ;-) |
| 14:31 | kados | ok, have a good night :-) |
| 14:31 | toins | bye all too |
| 17:04 | pecisk | hi guys, I have question again - how one can localise Koha for his local language? |
| 17:10 | chris | pecisk |
| 17:10 | http://www.kohadocs.org/KOHAtr[…]/translation.html | |
| 17:10 | if there isnt already a set of templates in your language, you can use this guide to make one | |
| 17:11 | pecisk | thanks :) |
| 17:20 | chris: question, do you use UTF-8 or something else in Koha? | |
| 17:21 | in which encoding those po files should be? | |
| 17:24 | chris | utf8 |
| 17:24 | pecisk | ahhh, cool |
| 17:30 | chris: I get Can't locate Locale/PO.pm in @INC error when launching that generation script, what CPAN thingy I need? | |
| 17:31 | chris | ah ha |
| 17:31 | i think Locale::PO | |
| 17:32 | pecisk | ok, that it is what I thought |
| 17:32 | thanks | |
| 17:37 | hmmm, it says Create FAILED at the end of issued command like in document | |
| 17:37 | without futher details | |
| 17:38 | chris | hmm |
| 17:39 | http://lists.nongnu.org/mailma[…]fo/koha-translate | |
| 17:39 | might be the place to ask | |
| 17:39 | pecisk | http://pastebin.ca/276964 |
| 17:39 | ok, I will do | |
| 19:43 | Anyone here? if someone would like to buy Koha eq. commercial software, how much he should spend? 3000$? 2000$? | |
| 19:44 | chris | to pa for something that has the same functionality as Koha? |
| 19:45 | like sirsidynix horizons ...or liberty3 ? | |
| 19:46 | you wouldnt be payng less than 40k id imagine | |
| 19:46 | kados would know better | |
| 19:46 | you can get things like dbtextworks for around 2000$ but they have no where near the features koha does | |
| 19:50 | pecisk | Jesus Christ :) |
| 19:50 | chris | 40k is cheap too |
| 19:50 | some will cost over 200k | |
| 19:52 | russ | i know one system that cost over $500k to deploy |
| 19:55 | pecisk | :) |
| 04:59 | btoumi | hi all |
| 10:42 | owen | kados? |
| 10:43 | paul | hi owen. |
| 10:43 | owen | Hi paul |
| 10:44 | paul | our mod_perl problem is (at least partially) solved |
| 10:44 | owen | This was with rel_3_0 ? |
| 10:54 | paul | yep |
| 10:54 | see the last 2 commits from toins |
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