IRC log for #koha, 2006-11-29

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12:19 paul hello kados
12:19 seems you're at office now, as you write mails ;-)
12:25 kados hi paul
12:25 :-)
12:25 yes, I'm at the office, and it's a slow monday for once
12:25 (probably librarians are catching up after the holiday :-))
12:25 paul holiday ?
12:26 kados thanksgiving
12:27 paul what do you (kados) eat for thanksgiving ?
12:28 really ? i've read somewhere that some fast-food just produced a new hamburger, called "heart break ham", with 8000 calories in just 1 hamburger !!!
12:28 they are crazy...
12:28 kados wow
12:29 paul (it was in US, of course, but can't remember where exactly)
12:30 kados : toins ask me if thanksgiving is a christian holiday ? I don't think, but you'll have the correct answer
12:31 owen It's origins are technically Christian, but it's now non-denominational.
12:32 (And: the Quadruple Bypass Burger: http://www.thesun.co.uk/articl[…]06510748,00.html)
12:34 paul hi owen
12:34 owen Hi paul
12:42 Thanksgiving is a very carnivorous holiday, so vegetarians may feel left out of the traditional festivities.
12:55 hdl Traditional dish is the turkey isn't it ?
12:57 owen Yes
12:57 hdl was it not for the first pilgrims to Thanks Lord for their arrival on this new ground ?
12:58 (There is/was... ( 10years ago ) a living museum near Boston very interesting...
13:00 owen http://www.plimoth.org/visit/what/ or something similar
13:01 hdl yea.
13:04 toins : http://www.pilgrimhall.org/ThanxProc2000.htm for the latest GW Bush proclamation of Thx Giving...
13:33 paul kados : about popularity, a quick question :
13:33 melm 952$s popularity means it's related to items.
13:33 shouldn't it be related to sum(all items of this biblio) ?
13:46 btoumi kados are u around?
13:50 kados hi btoumi
13:51 paul: yes, ideally
13:51 paul: but I didn't have time
13:51 btoumi how are u kados
13:51 kados good, and you>?
13:52 btoumi same for me , can u tell me where do u find some french ? perhaps we forget
13:52 paul I just wrote a small script for OPAC, showing books by popularity. It does not rely on zebra, and the patron can select 1 branch only, 1 itemtype only, 3/6/12 months acquisitions only
13:53 kados btoumi: when adding a member, the 'Mr., Mrs.' salutation titles
13:53 paul: cool
13:53 btoumi kados right we forget to change
13:53 i will change on cvs
13:56 and commit kados :
13:57 paul btoumi : probably a good candidate for a systempref...
13:58 (because even in french, christian libraries, for exemple, will be happy to add "Father", "Sister"... and research libraries will add "Prof."...)
13:58 not only in french probably ;-)
13:59 btoumi sure : borrowerstype for examples
14:00 paul BorrowersTitle would be better
14:00 BorrowersTitles being the best ;)
14:01 btoumi yes not type  
14:15 kados IMO it would even be better to have a new table
14:16 for SaultationTitle
14:16 so a library can define for themselves what are approapriate values
14:19 paul kados: why do we need a table ? A systempref is enough.
14:19 I mean, it contains the list of title separated by commas, and a split builds the array, for the template.
14:19 btoumi: you understood what i explained here, or planned to have a systempref just to choose between french & english titles ?
14:21 btoumi paul : a systeme preference to have french title or english title
14:22 kados paul: a syspref is slower to read because it must be parsed in perl as well, whereas a read from mysql is quite fast ... but either way it's OK
14:22 paul BorrowersTitles being a list of avaialble titles for the library : M,Mme,Mlle,Docteur
14:22 kados syspref is easier for the library to understand how to set up also
14:22 paul i don't think splitting a perl systempref is slower than reading X lines from mySQL
14:22 kados :-)
14:22 paul right.
14:22 (with mod_perl, i'm sure it's faster even)
14:23 kados (true)
14:23 btoumi paul:  it's a system preference to record the title u want
14:24 paul yep
18:10 owen Anyone know why virtual shelves store things by itemnumber rather than biblionumber?
18:12 chris its a good question
18:12 i cant think of any reason why ... other than perhaps they wanted only a certain type/format
18:12 altho, when you view it it just shows the biblio anyway
18:13 nope, cant think why its done that way
18:13 owen I've seen a lot of virtual shelves with blank entries, and I'm wondering if they're due to items having been deleted since being added to a virtual shelf.
18:15 chris yeah, that certainly sounds plausible
18:15 owen The OPAC seems to be smart enough not to display the blank entries, but not the intranet
18:16 chris wonder if thats just a template thing? .. i guess you want them to display on the intranet .. but with some way to remove them
18:16 so you can clean up
18:17 owen Except that it looks like deletions work via itemnumber (since there's no other primary key available)
18:18 chris right
18:19 itd be good if on the intranet, it showed the itemnumbers for the blank ones, then you could check the deleteditems table, to find out what they were maybe
18:25 owen I don't find the item numbers in our deleteditems table in the case that I examined, but I wonder if our deleteditems data is accurate...I seem to recall a bug we encountered in that department.
19:28 mason1 ello
03:10 mohameimran82 hi i am using fc6 and trying to install koha 2.2.7 on it
03:10 when i run this command perl -MCPAN -e 'install "ZOOM"'
03:10 i get the following error
03:11 /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lexslt
03:11 collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
03:11 make: *** [blib/arch/auto/Net/Z3950/ZOOM/ZOOM.so] Error 1
03:11 ...........
03:12 rch hi mohameimran82
03:12 dewey hi mohameimran82 is using fc6 and trying to install koha 2.2.7 on it
03:13 rch have you installed expat and libxml fedora packages?
03:13 mohameimran82 ill just check
03:14 rch and possibly libxslt if it isn't included in those
03:28 mohameimran82 these modules are present...
03:52 rch libxml2 and libxslt ?
05:01 btoumi hi all
05:30 js hello
05:30 dewey que tal, js
06:04 paul kados sleeping or around ?
10:32 owen paul: thanks for your input on the virtual shelves

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