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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 12:42 | kados | paul: are you present? |
| 12:42 | paul: do you have a french marc21 library now? or one in switzerland? | |
| 12:45 | paul | hi kados. |
| 12:45 | nope, I don't have a french marc21 library, but I have : | |
| 12:45 | - 2 french unimarc library in switzerland | |
| 12:46 | - 1 english unimarc library in nederlands | |
| 12:47 | in switzerland, the libraries are 1 public & 1 specialized | |
| 13:05 | kados | ahh |
| 13:05 | so you have not yet encountered doublebyte characters :-) | |
| 13:05 | it seems we have one remaining UTF-8 problem in Koha 2.2 series | |
| 13:06 | mysql doesn't support collation of single-byte characters like 'a' to multibyte characters like 'aÌ?' | |
| 13:06 | paul | (note that, as all of them are unimarc & french, i've char encoding latin1,) |
| 13:07 | kados | so for instance, a search on 'gabor' does not return results for 'GaÌ?bor' |
| 13:07 | paul | ??? really ? |
| 13:07 | kados | so it seems |
| 13:07 | paul | there are many utf8_xxxx, can't one of them solve this ? |
| 13:07 | kados | (note, this only applies to multibyte chars |
| 13:07 | I have tried utf8_general | |
| 13:08 | paul | maybe utf8_slovak or utf8_polish could help here ? |
| 13:09 | kados | perhaps |
| 13:09 | but it's not ideal | |
| 13:09 | because what if you have a catalog with five languages ? | |
| 13:09 | paul | right. |
| 13:10 | kados | (I have ... it's WIPO ;-)) |
| 13:10 | paul | strange behaviour. It means there is no complete utf8 support in mySQL, isn't it ? |
| 13:10 | kados | well, I have just discovered this problem |
| 13:10 | so I don't want to be too hasty | |
| 13:11 | I was just wondering if you encountered it before | |
| 13:11 | paul | ok, i'm afraid i won't be helpfull in this matter... |
| 13:12 | kados | and it seems that the 'collate' sql is quite slow |
| 13:12 | so it's not much help | |
| 13:12 | ie, select distinct word from marc_word where word like 'ga%' collate utf8_polish_ci; | |
| 13:12 | takes a very long time | |
| 13:12 | hdl | maybe tumer can help |
| 13:12 | hi tumer | |
| 13:12 | dewey | hi tumer is still strugling |
| 13:13 | tumer | nope only in zebra! |
| 13:13 | paul | hello tumer |
| 13:13 | tumer | hi all |
| 13:13 | kados | hey tumer |
| 13:13 | tumer | hi kados |
| 13:14 | kados | select distinct word from marc_word where word like 'gabor%' collate utf8_polish_ci; |
| 13:14 | only returns 'gabor' | |
| 13:14 | tumer | kados why are you still using marc_word and not zebra? |
| 13:14 | kados | :( |
| 13:14 | tumer: this is a legacy client | |
| 13:15 | paul | + we will have the same problem when searching for patron gabor in koha-zebra ! |
| 13:16 | tumer | you canu use map function in sort.chr file and it will return 'GaÌ?bor for gabor |
| 13:17 | map (aÌ?) a will do it | |
| 13:19 | equivalent (aÌ?)a is even better | |
| 13:20 | kados | one solution is to simply avoid all multi-byte characters for mysql |
| 13:20 | and use the single byte equivilents | |
| 13:20 | that's what I'm going to suggest I think for WIPO | |
| 13:28 | tumer | kados:Koha is now mobile! |
| 13:28 | we have the ssytem running | |
| 13:28 | paul | great ! |
| 13:28 | tumer | we will officially launch next week |
| 13:28 | paul | could you explain how you do this (technically) |
| 13:29 | tumer | we have access to an operators gateway |
| 13:29 | we can send and receive SMS messages by POST or GET methods | |
| 13:30 | so i have written a module (currently only for renewals) | |
| 13:30 | kados | tumer: woot! |
| 13:30 | tumer | it just parses a line like RN username password barcode |
| 13:31 | RN meaning renew | |
| 13:31 | answers back with new renewed date or Return the book its reserved and so on | |
| 13:32 | koha automatcally sends overdue messages with SMS as well | |
| 13:32 | paul:is it clear? | |
| 13:32 | kados | neat |
| 13:33 | paul | wow ! it's clear & really really easy ! |
| 13:33 | to get access to operators gateway, you just ask them (& pay some money I think ;-) ) | |
| 13:34 | tumer | yes! i will even earn money on it |
| 13:34 | they like to have SMS traffic | |
| 13:34 | paul | ??? |
| 13:34 | kados | cool! |
| 13:34 | tumer | and are wiling to share profits |
| 13:34 | paul | you will get money to send SMS ??? |
| 13:34 | tumer | nope |
| 13:35 | customers sending SMS | |
| 13:35 | the cost to them | |
| 13:35 | i get a share of that money | |
| 13:35 | paul | ah, ok, I understand. Don't you have a feature to send SMS when a return date is near ? |
| 13:35 | tumer | i have that |
| 13:36 | paul | (because for this, you pay, right ?) |
| 13:36 | so, it's something like : | |
| 13:36 | tumer | i managed to get them to accept for me to send that free as a contribution to thr library |
| 13:36 | paul | - I send a SMS to patron1 => cost EUR0.10 |
| 13:36 | - patron1 renew through SMS => you get EUR0.02 | |
| 13:36 | hdl | kados : sorry to interrupt. |
| 13:37 | tumer | paul yes very similar |
| 13:37 | hdl | I get a loop. but how do I use ZOOM for outer catalogue and present ppl with results. |
| 13:37 | ? | |
| 13:38 | It should be the same as with processz3950queue is it not ? | |
| 13:38 | And what about opensearch servers ? | |
| 13:38 | How does it work. | |
| 13:38 | ? | |
| 13:45 | tumer | hdl:whats the problem? |
| 13:46 | hdl | the problem is that I am trying to allow outer catalog search as kados allowed in koha-2.4 |
| 13:47 | and I am nneither getting connected to outerservers nor getting reults from them with getRecords. | |
| 13:48 | tumer | check the code catalogue/isbnsearch.pl in head |
| 13:49 | kados | tumer: I've got a question for you |
| 13:49 | tumer | a very similar code runs in our OPAC in Advanced serach/Union catalogue |
| 13:49 | kados:shoot! | |
| 13:50 | kados | I'm getting really sick of the old Z3950 daemon |
| 13:50 | do you think you could port the new stuff you did with ZOOM to rel_2_2? | |
| 13:50 | I mean the Z39.50 client ... | |
| 13:51 | tumer | no problem; my isbnsearch.pl should just work with little modifiation |
| 13:52 | kados | it's the most troublesome part of koha 2.2 I think |
| 13:52 | for new users | |
| 13:52 | paul | tumer : it's not isbnsearch.pl |
| 13:52 | it's processz3950queue | |
| 13:52 | kados | in fact, if we did this, I think we could release 2.2.7 |
| 13:52 | paul | (isbnsearch : toins modified it recently to use zoom as everywhere else) |
| 13:52 | tumer | you do not need procesz3950 anymore |
| 13:52 | kados | tumer: I'm speaking of rel_2_2 |
| 13:52 | paul | ??? |
| 13:53 | kados | tumer: because many libraries will still use it |
| 13:53 | paul | is it modified in koha-zebra ??? |
| 13:53 | kados | tumer: I was asking if you could take your new stuff in HEAD and put it into rel_2_2 |
| 13:53 | tumer | kados and paul i am getiing confused! |
| 13:54 | kados | tumer: to eliminate processz3950queue for rel_2_2 |
| 13:54 | tumer: ok, I'll start over :-) | |
| 13:54 | tumer: in rel_2_2, processz3950queue is still used | |
| 13:54 | tumer | in head there is no more Z3950 deamons |
| 13:54 | kados | tumer: but in HEAD, it's not |
| 13:54 | tumer: I am asking if you could merge the HEAD code to rel_2_2 | |
| 13:54 | tumer | that should be very easy to port to 2_2 |
| 13:54 | kados | tumer: so that we can release 2.2.7 with improved Z3950 client |
| 13:55 | I think we would get many 'points' from the community on this | |
| 13:55 | tumer | and OK i will do it on 2_2 |
| 13:55 | kados | as it's definitely the most asked question on koha list |
| 13:55 | paul | huray for tumer ! |
| 13:55 | kados | tumer++ |
| 14:04 | tumer | hdl:sorry I meant z3950/search.pl not isbnsearch.pl (sorry paul as well) |
| 14:04 | paul | maybe you should re-write your question for kados & tumer... |
| 14:18 | hdl | kados, tumer : my question was to adapt kados intranet search facility to search multiple catalogs would it be z3950 servers or opensearch servers. |
| 14:19 | I thought this facility was provided by kados on devweek | |
| 14:19 | But it seems it doesnot work yet on rel_3_0. | |
| 14:19 | So I was wondering how to get them work. | |
| 14:27 | tumer | hdl:i have a different code than kados's so its kados to answer |
| 14:27 | kados | dev_week supports federated searching |
| 14:27 | but it's not completely finished | |
| 14:29 | tumer | hdl: you can see a sample at http://library.neu.edu.tr/cgi-[…]a/union-search.pl if it helps i'll send you the code |
| 16:17 | hdl | kados : Did your primary and secondary server loops worked for you ? |
| 16:18 | You told me it was not finihsed yet. But what is to be done ? | |
| 16:19 | kados | hdl: the results display |
| 16:19 | hdl: we would need a new framework for each federated source I think | |
| 16:20 | hdl: honestly, I didn't think much about it ... except to allow federated search in the getRecords sub | |
| 16:20 | hdl | So this is HIGHLY experimental at present time is it not ? |
| 16:22 | The fact is that each ZOOM connection need some options to be set, such as cclfile for instance. | |
| 16:22 | kados : but I thought that servers could all get into z3950servers table. | |
| 16:23 | With "position" (primary, 2dary, blank) and "type" (zed or opensearch) | |
| 16:24 | But the fact is that some information is still missing. | |
| 16:27 | kados | hdl: it is highly experimental |
| 16:27 | hdl: the opensearch does not work at all except on an uncommitted version of Search.pm that I need to clean up | |
| 16:28 | hdl: the framework would decide how to display the MARC record when retrieved | |
| 16:28 | hdl: ie, what is mapped to koha fields in the template | |
| 16:28 | hdl: but we may want a more flexible approach such as conversion to MODS or something | |
| 16:28 | hdl: (IMO, using XML -> XSLT -> XHTML is the best approach | |
| 16:29 | if you can spend some time understanding how it shouhld work) | |
| 16:29 | hdl | (I agree) |
| 16:29 | (on XML->XSLT->XHTML) | |
| 16:29 | kados | too bad for me, I'm likely to be too busy in Nov/Dec for any development :( |
| 16:30 | hdl | So I gues this shouldnot be part of Koha rel_3_0. |
| 16:30 | It really nedds som more dev. | |
| 16:31 | IMO, we should have getRecords be splitted into parts so taht queries could be trated by types. | |
| 16:32 | Opensearch, z3950, ccl, and so on. | |
| 16:32 | Opensearch, rpn, ccl, and so on. | |
| 16:32 | This qould allow us to magically implement some new search engines | |
| 16:34 | Maybe buildQuery should also be built in this aim. | |
| 16:35 | But it needs some development planning. | |
| 16:42 | kados | hdl: I agree |
| 16:42 | hdl | hi _paul |
| 16:43 | kados : I dont think you tried greenstone. | |
| 16:43 | did you ? | |
| 16:44 | kados | hdl: not carefully |
| 16:44 | hdl | It present some cool features in integrating oai and word and any doc type through plugins. |
| 16:44 | kados | yep |
| 16:44 | very nice features | |
| 16:44 | hdl | And maybe Koha could get some inspiration from it. |
| 16:45 | migrating to Koha is quite a big burden for ppl. | |
| 16:45 | This is what we are paid for. | |
| 16:45 | kados | yep |
| 16:45 | hdl | But I think taht if it would be easier, more and more persons would come to Koha. |
| 17:24 | thd | kados: are you there? |
| 21:43 | tumer | chris:around? |
| 21:44 | chris | yep |
| 21:44 | sup tumer? | |
| 21:45 | tumer | how are you? |
| 21:45 | chris | good thanks and you? |
| 21:45 | tumer | do you have a dev_week running? |
| 21:45 | chris | sure do |
| 21:46 | want me to test out your commits? | |
| 21:46 | tumer | i have just committed a new z3950 search to dev_week |
| 21:46 | yes please | |
| 21:49 | kados | tumer: ahh, to dev_week? do I need to alter the db at all? |
| 21:49 | tumer: originally I meant rel_2_2 but dev_week will do ;-) | |
| 21:49 | tumer | no alteration to db |
| 21:50 | sorry i am really confuesed with all this releases | |
| 21:50 | chris | Global symbol "$breedingid" requires explicit package name at /usr/local/koha/intranet/modules/C4/Breeding.pm line 125 |
| 21:50 | tumer | right |
| 21:51 | kados | tumer: there are four now: |
| 21:51 | rel_2_2 is the 'stable' 2.2 series (next version in this series is 2.2.7) | |
| 21:51 | chris | seems to be working now |
| 21:51 | kados | rel_2_2 will have a long life AFAIK |
| 21:51 | it's nice and simple for small libraries | |
| 21:51 | tumer | thanks chris |
| 21:52 | kados | chris: did you commit? |
| 21:52 | ahh, see it now | |
| 21:52 | chris | yep |
| 21:52 | tumer | kados: on Windows i cannot fork so the results appear one after the other you may change that |
| 21:53 | chris | whats a known working z3950 server? |
| 21:55 | tumer | try me on library.neu.edu.tr:9010 |
| 21:57 | kados | hmmm, I'm getting a ton of errors in Breeding.pm |
| 21:57 | chris | weird |
| 21:57 | tumer | i only added one line |
| 21:57 | kados | lobal symbol "$i" requires explicit package name at /koha/intranet/modules/C4/Breeding.pm line 73. |
| 21:57 | chris | im not |
| 21:57 | kados | maybe I'll synch up again |
| 21:58 | chris | theres not even an $i on line 73 for me :) |
| 21:58 | kados | yea, fixed now |
| 21:58 | musta been something I was mucking with :-) | |
| 21:59 | tumer: nothing found for 'tom sawyer' | |
| 21:59 | tumer: and some pretty good servers defined | |
| 21:59 | nothing interresting in the log | |
| 21:59 | and it still gives the 'Still ?? servers to search' message | |
| 22:00 | but the page never reloads | |
| 22:00 | chris | hmm mine doesnt do that |
| 22:00 | lemme add some more | |
| 22:00 | kados | z3950.loc.gov:7090/ |
| 22:00 | tumer | kados:can you please uncomment the warns in search pl |
| 22:00 | kados | z3950.loc.gov:7090 |
| 22:00 | voyager | |
| 22:00 | will do | |
| 22:01 | hang on, it's working now | |
| 22:01 | sweet! | |
| 22:01 | chris | heh |
| 22:01 | kados | wait |
| 22:01 | chris | what was going on? |
| 22:01 | kados | may have spoken too soon |
| 22:01 | it was me mucking around again ;-) | |
| 22:02 | I just get a message 'still 7 servers to search' | |
| 22:02 | no page reload | |
| 22:02 | chris | yeah that page isnt reloading |
| 22:02 | tumer | the page dows not reload |
| 22:02 | kados | and manual reload doesn't turn up anything |
| 22:02 | no? | |
| 22:02 | does it use ajax? | |
| 22:02 | tumer | it just adds to the page |
| 22:03 | no ajax | |
| 22:03 | chris | ah ha |
| 22:04 | tumer | this works on IE but i am not sure on firefox |
| 22:04 | kados | hmmm |
| 22:06 | nope, same deal | |
| 22:06 | tumer | chris:it just does a print $template->output after each server result |
| 22:06 | chris | right |
| 22:07 | tumer | it works for IE for me but i cannot test it on dev_week |
| 22:08 | kados | IE for me acts the same |
| 22:08 | Bibliographic Records Found in 205.184.70.3 Title Author ISBN | |
| 22:08 | Nothing found | |
| 22:08 | Still 7 servers to search | |
| 22:08 | chris | ill put some warns in and see where its getting to, its only doing the first server |
| 22:08 | kados | just that page |
| 22:09 | tumer | uncomment line 153 and you will see all zoom movements |
| 22:09 | chris | yep it only does that once |
| 22:09 | im trying to figure out why | |
| 22:10 | ah ha | |
| 22:11 | i did this | |
| 22:11 | $oConnection[$s]->connect($server->{name}, $server->{port}) || warn "cant connect"; | |
| 22:11 | cant connect at search.pl line 138. | |
| 22:11 | so now i have to figure out why :) | |
| 22:13 | tumer | chris:comment out line 131 and 132 for user and password i do not have those |
| 22:15 | kados | server->syntax? |
| 22:15 | would that be USMARC? | |
| 22:15 | tumer | replace with USMARC |
| 22:15 | kados | I wonder if it should be MARC21 instead |
| 22:15 | tumer | i have USMARC hardcoded |
| 22:16 | and loc works | |
| 22:16 | kados | not yet for me |
| 22:16 | tumer | in fact they all work with that but just incase for those UNIMARC |
| 22:16 | chris | ah ha |
| 22:16 | telnet z3950.loc.gov 7090 | |
| 22:16 | Trying 140.147.249.38... | |
| 22:16 | telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused | |
| 22:16 | that explains that at least | |
| 22:17 | kados | wtf? |
| 22:17 | chris | probably a local firewall |
| 22:17 | kados | olc1.ohiolink.edu 210 |
| 22:17 | chris | i can connect to it from home |
| 22:17 | kados | right |
| 22:18 | chris | so its a firewall blocking that port outbound on my dev box |
| 22:18 | so i cant really test im afraid | |
| 22:18 | kados | heh |
| 22:18 | well my test box isn't firewalled | |
| 22:18 | loc is very slow though | |
| 22:19 | but I have 7 servers defined | |
| 22:19 | tumer | chris:ROCK.LIB.ASU.EDU:210 |
| 22:19 | kados | s I'd think one of them would work |
| 22:19 | chris: 66.213.78.76:9900 work for you? | |
| 22:19 | chris | no ports will |
| 22:19 | kados | chris: I could start it up on a port you aren't firewalled on |
| 22:20 | chris: 443 maybe? | |
| 22:20 | chris | hmm lemme see |
| 22:20 | kados | 9999 |
| 22:20 | 66.213.78.76:9999 is where it's actually at | |
| 22:21 | tumer | LIBRARY.MIT.EDU:9909 which is MIT is also working |
| 22:21 | chris | ill test later but it looks to me like it should work if it could connect |
| 22:21 | kados | did you change anything chris? |
| 22:21 | tumer | currently i am searching,loc,ohio, MIT Oxford all working |
| 22:22 | chris | nope kados, just stuck some warns in |
| 22:22 | kados | huh |
| 22:22 | chris | try uncommenting the warns in there and watch the logs |
| 22:23 | kados | yea, doing that now |
| 22:23 | weird | |
| 22:24 | I get Connect failed (10000) PASADENA P.L.:210 for all of them | |
| 22:24 | chris | right |
| 22:24 | have you tried commenting out the user and password bits? | |
| 22:24 | kados | yep |
| 22:24 | don't get an erro for loc | |
| 22:24 | but no results returned | |
| 22:25 | chris | see about line 138 |
| 22:25 | $oConnection[$s]->connect($server->{name}, $server->{port}) | |
| 22:25 | that line | |
| 22:25 | try making it | |
| 22:25 | $oConnection[$s]->connect($server->{name}, $server->{port}) || warn ("somthing went wrong: " . $oConnection[$s]->errmsg()); | |
| 22:25 | see if we can get some info | |
| 22:26 | kados | connection 0: event 10 (end)205.184.70.3 at search.pl line 158.0 205.184.70.3 error @attr 1=4 @attr 4=1 "mark": Connect failed (10000) PASADENA P.L.:210 |
| 22:27 | no warning for the 'something went wrong' | |
| 22:27 | chris | interesting thats what fails for me (cos of the firewall) |
| 22:27 | but u get past that | |
| 22:27 | tumer | line 153 will give you more messages on connection |
| 22:27 | chris | and then when it tries to search it dies |
| 22:28 | kados | tumer: that warn is uncommented already |
| 22:28 | chris | could do |
| 22:28 | $oResult[$z] = $oConnection[$z]->search_pqf($query); | |
| 22:28 | into | |
| 22:28 | $oResult[$z] = $oConnection[$z]->search_pqf($query) || warn ("somthing went wrong: " . $oConnection[$s]->errmsg()); | |
| 22:28 | kados | but the error I'm getting is a connection prob |
| 22:29 | and I don't get it for loc strangely | |
| 22:29 | chris | well thats what zoom says |
| 22:29 | kados | nothing |
| 22:30 | tumer | why dont you try your own zebra server ? |
| 22:30 | chris | so it gets past that, ie its doing the search |
| 22:30 | kados | I'm not so sure |
| 22:30 | chris | if you do it against just 1 server, ur one |
| 22:30 | tumer | put a warn to $numresults |
| 22:31 | chris | you hopefully will see it connect in the zebra logs? |
| 22:31 | kados | hmm, it is inside that for loop |
| 22:31 | chris: good thinking | |
| 22:33 | huh ... it doesn't connect | |
| 22:33 | tumer | very weird! |
| 22:35 | kados | well, I can try to troubleshoot some more later |
| 22:35 | right now I should get some dinner | |
| 22:35 | thanks tumer! | |
| 22:35 | tumer | let me know so i can do something if necessary |
| 22:45 | chris i added the user and password to mine and it still works | |
| 22:49 | chris | right so its not that then, after work ill do some more testing, its probably somethng simple |
| 22:49 | tumer | try http://library.neu.edu.tr:8100[…]uing/addbiblio.pl with id:0123456 pass:arman if u like |
| 22:51 | chris | sweet that works just fine |
| 22:52 | very cool | |
| 22:52 | tumer | only thing different is after results i call for xml in head and for marc record in that version |
| 22:53 | line by line same code | |
| 22:53 | chris | right |
| 22:54 | tumer | so pls chek firewals etc and our settings |
| 22:54 | gnight for now | |
| 22:54 | chris | yeah i know mine is firewalls, i cant test further than that until i change that |
| 22:54 | good night | |
| 23:43 | kados | something went wrong: No error at search.pl line 130. |
| 23:43 | that's this line: | |
| 23:43 | $oConnection[$s]->connect($server->{name}, $server->{port}) || warn ("something went wrong: ".$oConnection[$s]->errmsg()); | |
| 23:44 | chris: if you cvs up I re-did the tabs so they're pretty | |
| 23:44 | chris | cool |
| 23:44 | but we still arent connecting for some reason eh | |
| 23:44 | did you see tumers koha? | |
| 23:44 | kados | yea, for 'no error' :-) |
| 23:44 | no, didn't | |
| 23:44 | chris | its pretty cool |
| 23:45 | kados | the template, or what? |
| 23:45 | chris | the way the results come back |
| 23:45 | kados | ahh, yea I've seen the OPAC |
| 23:45 | chris | i meant the z9350 search |
| 23:45 | kados | ahh, no I haven't |
| 23:45 | chris | if you scroll back |
| 23:45 | kados | but I know how it works |
| 23:45 | because I've done that myself | |
| 23:45 | chris | it has the link and username and password |
| 23:46 | kados | just keep printing out to the browser |
| 23:46 | chris | yep |
| 23:46 | kados | if we wanted |
| 23:46 | we could use that technique for the federated search in koha | |
| 23:46 | and some javascript could keep the results in the right places | |
| 23:46 | so we could have asynchronous results I mean | |
| 23:47 | which would be much faster to load | |
| 23:47 | chris | right |
| 23:47 | but first we have to figure out why its not connecting :) | |
| 23:47 | kados | and if we were smart about it it would still work in lynx |
| 23:47 | yea :-) | |
| 23:49 | got it | |
| 23:49 | warn ("server data",$server->{name}, $server->{port}); | |
| 23:49 | server dataNELSONVILLE PUBLIC LIBRARY9999 | |
| 23:49 | nothing to connect to :-) | |
| 23:50 | chris | ahhh |
| 23:50 | kados | hehe, now I get a 500 error :-) |
| 23:50 | chris | so it should be $server->{host} insteadd eh? |
| 23:50 | kados | yea |
| 23:51 | chris | makes sense |
| 23:51 | kados | database unavailable |
| 23:51 | hmmm | |
| 23:51 | ahh, my fault | |
| 00:04 | rhariram | hi kados |
| 00:05 | kados | hi rhariram |
| 00:05 | rhariram: what's up? | |
| 00:06 | rhariram | any clue on bug 1230 |
| 00:07 | kados | rhariram: sorry, I haven't had a chance to pursue it |
| 00:08 | rhariram: got a number of clients needing stuff done before I do my volunteer stuff ;-) | |
| 00:09 | rhariram | ok. no problem. could you give pointers on how to pursue it ? |
| 00:11 | kados | if I recall, it's only happening in the koha tables, right? |
| 00:11 | not the marc_subfield_table? | |
| 00:11 | it could be a problem with the table definition | |
| 00:12 | or it could be a perl problem, something might be setting or unsetting the utf8 flag to perl and causing it to double-encode the field | |
| 00:12 | that would be burried deep in the code somewhere and proabbly hard to spot/test | |
| 00:12 | rhariram | that right only in the koha tables and not marc_subfield_table |
| 00:13 | ok | |
| 00:31 | kados: was just looking at the koha.mysql file. Table definitions look ok. | |
| 00:33 | kados | rhariram: is the column type the same for marc_subfield_table as the column you'r ehaving trouble with? |
| 00:52 | rhariram | kados: yes. column type are the same. biblioitems.publishercode & marc_subfield_table.subfieldvalue are varchar |
| 00:52 | kados | so next thing I'd check is the perl I guess |
| 00:52 | that could be really tricky :-) | |
| 01:00 | rhariram | i just saw that the marc_subfield_table.bibid and biblioitems.biblionumber are not the same. So where does the info on the connection between the recs in the two tables get stored ? |
| 01:01 | kados | marc_biblio |
| 01:01 | dewey | somebody said marc_biblio was the old rel_2_2 table |
| 01:02 | kados | dewey: no, marc_biblio is where you can find the relationship between marc_subfield_table.bibid and biblioitems.biblionumber in the 2.2 series of Koha |
| 01:02 | dewey | ...but marc_biblio is the old rel_2_2 table... |
| 01:02 | kados | dewey: no, marc_biblio is where you can find the relationship between marc_subfield_table.bibid and biblioitems.biblionumber in the 2.2 series of Koha |
| 01:02 | dewey | ...but marc_biblio is the old rel_2_2 table... |
| 01:02 | kados | dewey: no marc_biblio is where you can find the relationship between marc_subfield_table.bibid and biblioitems.biblionumber in the 2.2 series of Koha |
| 01:02 | dewey | OK, kados. |
| 01:02 | kados | good dewey |
| 01:02 | marc_biblio | |
| 01:02 | dewey | marc_biblio is the old rel_2_2 table |
| 01:03 | kados | ahh |
| 01:03 | chris: is dewey broken? | |
| 01:03 | dewey: no marc_biblio is where you can find the relationship between marc_subfield_table.bibid and biblioitems.biblionumber in the 2.2 series of Koha | |
| 01:03 | dewey | i already had it that way, kados. |
| 01:03 | kados | marc_biblio |
| 01:03 | dewey | marc_biblio is the old rel_2_2 table |
| 01:03 | kados | heh |
| 01:03 | chris | just tell him to forget |
| 01:04 | dewey: forget marc_biblio | |
| 01:04 | dewey | chris: I forgot marc_biblio |
| 01:04 | chris | no marc_biblio? |
| 01:04 | dewey | no marc_biblio is where you can find the relationship between marc_subfield_table.bibid and biblioitems.biblionumber in the 2.2 series of Koha |
| 01:04 | chris | hehe if you had done |
| 01:04 | no, marc_biblio etc | |
| 01:04 | it might have worked :) | |
| 01:04 | marc_marc_biblio is where you can find the relationship between marc_subfield_table.bibid and biblioitems.biblionumber in the 2.2 series of Koha | |
| 01:05 | damn | |
| 01:05 | marc_biblio is where you can find the relationship between marc_subfield_table.bibid and biblioitems.biblionumber in the 2.2 series of Koha | |
| 01:05 | marc_biblio? | |
| 01:05 | dewey | it has been said that marc_biblio is where you can find the relationship between marc_subfield_table.bibid and biblioitems.biblionumber in the 2.2 series of Koha |
| 01:09 | rhariram | kados: where in perl could I start looking? hows the utf8 flag defined? |
| 01:14 | bureado | Greetings. I have a question. Is it possible to "retrieve" information from a public Z3950 server (I'm using the LOC one) just by providing the ISBN or Author name? Is it that "automagical"? |
| 01:14 | (in Koha, of course :)) | |
| 01:18 | chris | yes |
| 01:18 | is the short answer :) | |
| 01:19 | the long answer is its kinda tricky in 2.2.6 you need to start up the z3950 daemon (all documented at kohadocs.org and in the mailing lists) | |
| 01:20 | but we have just gotten a much nicer version working, that will be in 2.2.7 in the near future | |
| 01:20 | which is much easier to use | |
| 01:20 | bureado | I see. That's the missing part indeed. |
| 01:20 | I'll check the docs. Thanks! | |
| 01:22 | chris | http://www.kohadocs.org/usersguide/ch04s02.html |
| 01:22 | is a good place to look | |
| 01:29 | kados | rhariram: that is a very complicated question :-) |
| 01:30 | rhariram: check the perl unicode documentation | |
| 01:34 | rhariram | have gone thru perl unicode documentation once in the past. will do it again |
| 01:36 | bureado | ZOOM error 10007 "Timeout" from diag-set 'ZOOM'9546/9 : Processing author=Dewey at CENTRAL TEXAS COLLEGE 63.109.217.181:2200 unicorn MARC21 (2 forks) |
| 01:36 | Maybe I made an sloppy ZOOM install, can anyone give me any pointers regarding this issue? | |
| 01:46 | Or maybe it's just timing out | |
| 01:47 | chris | could be |
| 01:47 | try telnet 63.109.217.181 2200 | |
| 01:48 | (assuming ur on a *nix box) | |
| 01:48 | and see if it answers | |
| 05:20 | btoumi | hi all |
| 05:25 | chrtis are u around? | |
| 05:25 | chris sorry | |
| 05:33 | paul | lot of ppl on the chanel today,... even if it's quite |
| 05:36 | toins | hello world |
| 05:46 | osmoze | hello too |
| 06:24 | chris | im around now |
| 06:24 | paul | hello chris (the only non-french native atm) |
| 06:36 | chris | who is hpassini? another person from SAN-OP? |
| 06:36 | paul | yep. |
| 06:36 | helene passini | |
| 06:37 | chris | ahh cool |
| 06:38 | btoumi | hi chris |
| 06:39 | hdl | chris : did z3950 search work when committed ? |
| 06:39 | chris | hi bruno |
| 06:39 | hdl | It doesnot work for me. |
| 06:39 | chris | it works in dev_week |
| 06:39 | hdl | needs some refresh. |
| 06:39 | chris | it should just keep loading |
| 06:40 | without needing any refreshes | |
| 06:40 | hdl | Joshua committed on rel_2_2 |
| 06:40 | chris | ahh hes committed there already cool |
| 06:40 | hdl | But there are no ops on first load. |
| 06:40 | chris | hmm |
| 06:40 | hdl | So it just loads servers and the wait. |
| 06:41 | So it just loads servers and then wait. | |
| 06:41 | chris | maybe missing a template |
| 06:41 | hdl | Shoul I try to ask for a do_search ? |
| 06:41 | chris | lemme take a look |
| 06:42 | give me a couple of seconds to get it installed | |
| 06:44 | does it look like this when you do a z3950 search? | |
| 06:44 | http://koha.kohadev.katipo.co.[…]umber=&title=test | |
| 06:44 | hdl | no. |
| 06:45 | chris | looks like a template has been missed then |
| 06:45 | 2 seconds | |
| 06:45 | hdl | search.tmpl should be the one. |
| 06:46 | sorry searchresults.tmpl | |
| 06:49 | chris | hmm that looks right in 2.2 |
| 06:49 | the template looks the same as in dev_week | |
| 06:52 | hmm does the template you have installed have the Search internet button on it? | |
| 06:57 | hdl | No. |
| 06:57 | Thanks Chris. | |
| 06:57 | I got my first result. | |
| 06:57 | Big encoding problem. | |
| 06:57 | But I fixed it with processz3950queue. | |
| 06:58 | So it can be solved. | |
| 06:59 | chris | cool |
| 07:00 | yeah the search.pl is quite straightforward, so you should be able to fix it there | |
| 07:00 | hdl | chris : Do we know when marc::* wil be released ? |
| 07:01 | Becuas it can be blocking for us. | |
| 07:01 | chris | i dont, joshua might |
| 07:02 | paul | i have asked mike rylander for marc::file::xml, it should be done quickly |
| 07:03 | (ed summer is cpan maitainer, so mike will have to ask him) | |
| 07:05 | chris | right |
| 07:06 | paul | but it seems we have a definite problem with MARC::Record |
| 07:06 | maybe fork a MARC::Record::Improved package ? | |
| 07:07 | chris | yeah, we might have to if no one is going to release a new version |
| 07:07 | paul | seems that Andy stay silent when requested for new releases |
| 07:08 | chris | yes |
| 07:11 | have we tried sending him a patch? | |
| 07:12 | paul | I tried nothing. Although the sf/CVS version is 2.0 & the cpan one more than 2 years old. |
| 07:15 | chris | yeah i wonder why he's not releasing it |
| 08:54 | tumer | kados:around?did you get my commits to work? |
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