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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 11:00 | thd | s/page/results page/ |
| 11:02 | owen | The onload method simply detects when the page is loaded. It doesn't have anything to do with the backend language. All it knows is that the data coming in has finished. |
| 11:03 | Since HTML pages don't really "stream," the DOM can tell when the HTML file is complete, I think. | |
| 11:04 | thd | owen: so what does the function called by onLoad need to do to hide the waiting message? |
| 11:05 | owen | Here's how I did it with the addbiblio template: I added a document.write() to the top of the page creating a DIV that overlays the page with the waiting message. Then I have the onload function change the display properties of that DIV to 'hidden' when the page has loaded. |
| 11:05 | It's not ideal, but it was an improvement. | |
| 11:06 | thd | owen: you have an ideal solution as well? |
| 11:06 | owen | :) |
| 11:07 | A better solution would overlay the whole page and prevent the user from clicking anything until the page was loaded. | |
| 11:07 | I'm not sure how to accomplish that...I've never investigated it. | |
| 11:12 | thd | owen: I imagined that document.write would need to rewrite the page completely. I assume now that document.write only searches the DOM to replace only the div element to hide it. Is that correct? |
| 11:13 | owen | No, document.write doesn't rewrite the whole page. It simply adds what you tell it to wherever you place the <script>document.write()</script> |
| 11:13 | Again, not ideal, because inline javascript isn't very pretty. | |
| 11:14 | However, all of the progressive enhancement techniques I'm familiar with rely on onload functions, so that wouldn't work in this case. | |
| 11:16 | thd | own: yse, unless javaScript can search Z39.50 and OAI servers and parse MARC records for this case. |
| 11:20 | s/own/owen/ | |
| 11:20 | s/yse/yes/ | |
| 11:20 | thank you owen | |
| 11:20 | owen | No, and I would never suggest that it could. |
| 11:21 | thd | kados are you back from breakfast? |
| 12:36 | kados | thd: you there? |
| 12:36 | thd: sorry, I got held up | |
| 12:37 | thd: configuring a svn server for our new repository | |
| 17:19 | thd | kados: I am back now. Have You been released? |
| 04:04 | osmoze | hi |
| 05:53 | lloyd_p01 | ahh right... i was speaking to some guy last week from liblime, cant remember your nick so if you remember me please pm me :) |
| 05:57 | Lea | hi. Is anyone awake? :)# |
| 06:02 | lloyd_p01 | Hey :) |
| 06:05 | Lea | hi! |
| 06:05 | ok. I want you to sell me the benefits of using Koha over this rubbish IIS/W2K3 system that I'm being told to buy :) | |
| 06:06 | lloyd_p01 | hehe... i'm here as a customer too, for the NHS =) |
| 06:06 | Lea | in the uk? |
| 06:06 | lloyd_p01 | yes |
| 06:06 | Lea | lol - I'm network manager at a college in Wales ;) |
| 06:06 | lloyd_p01 | ahh I'm network manager for west suffolk hospital, in suffolk :p |
| 06:07 | we're planning on using Koha to replace the library management systems for 28 librarys in the east of england.. | |
| 06:07 | Lea | we've got that "eclipse" system running here. 3 copies on 3 separate campuses. They want to integrate it all and put it online. Thing is, they use barcode scanners. You know if it handles that? |
| 06:08 | lloyd_p01 | yeah it does |
| 06:08 | Lea | 28! o_O |
| 06:08 | lloyd_p01 | yeah.. its going to be huge :) |
| 06:08 | Lea | you know if itll use ldap as a backend? |
| 06:08 | lloyd_p01 | you mean instead of using mysql? |
| 06:09 | Lea | i'm talking just user auth |
| 06:09 | lloyd_p01 | koha will use ldap for authentication, but not for the database |
| 06:09 | Lea | we have a central directory |
| 06:09 | oh ok, perfect :) | |
| 06:09 | so will you be using linux servers? | |
| 06:09 | lloyd_p01 | yup, you have to :) |
| 06:09 | which is handy for me, as i'm a linux admin :) | |
| 06:10 | Lea | ok, would you be willing to swap work email ads as it looks like we'll be doing exactly the same setups (almost!) and in the same timezone :) |
| 06:10 | lloyd_p01 | yeah no problem.. pm :) |
| 06:27 | hdl | hi |
| 06:28 | Lea | hi hdl |
| 06:29 | hdl: do you know if there's a pdf/html page somewhere that simple lists koha's features? I want to pass it on to my boss/librarians. | |
| 06:30 | hdl | Did you try wiki.koha.org ? or www.koha.org ? |
| 06:30 | Lea | of course :) |
| 06:30 | http://www.koha.org/about-koha[…]atures/index.html | |
| 06:30 | that's the only summary i can find | |
| 06:31 | I was looking for something like a sales brochure i guess ;) | |
| 06:31 | lloyd_p01 | hehehe |
| 06:31 | good luck with that :D | |
| 06:32 | hdl | we are not so good at saling :D |
| 06:33 | But you can ask kados for some. | |
| 06:33 | He has pretty Good ones. | |
| 06:33 | lloyd_p01 | hdl - you dont happen to know which one of the people in here is from liblime do you? I was talking to him last week and i cant remember his nick :/ |
| 06:33 | hdl | The problem is that he is in USA and not got up yet. |
| 06:33 | Lea | hehe |
| 06:33 | I found this one: http://liblime.com/promo/kohabifold.pdf | |
| 06:33 | hdl | kados is from liblime. |
| 06:34 | lloyd_p01 | haha.. i was just about to paste that :p |
| 06:34 | cheers hdl :) | |
| 06:34 | hdl | Lea : There you are. |
| 06:34 | Is it ok for you ? | |
| 06:36 | An other thing would be http://liblime.com/c/koha-features.html | |
| 06:36 | http://opac.liblime.com/ for OPAC demo | |
| 06:37 | http://koha.liblime.com/ for intranet... | |
| 06:38 | In parameters, you can configure and adapt MANY things to your needs. | |
| 06:39 | lloyd_p01: maybe owen too. | |
| 06:39 | lloyd_p01 | hdl - dont give up the day job :p |
| 06:39 | hdl | Or you can ask mj ray (he is in uk) |
| 06:41 | lloyd_p01 | mmm what happened to that library with the windows live looking opac.. was in the topic last week |
| 06:41 | hdl | mjr at phonecoop dot coop |
| 10:44 | Lea | does anyone know where the page is that is shown on the koha v.2.2 section on the homepage? |
| 10:45 | the one that says "Manage your library" | |
| 10:50 | owen | Where do you see that, Lea? |
| 10:50 | on Koha.org? |
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