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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 16:09 | thd | kados: are you there? |
| 08:48 | hdl | kados ? |
| 08:48 | dewey | i guess kados is becoming a true Perl Monger... |
| 08:50 | kados | hdl: I'm here |
| 08:51 | hdl | It seems you use new modules for your search API... |
| 08:51 | kados | yep |
| 08:51 | paul | hi kados. |
| 08:51 | hdl | Language::Stem and so on. |
| 08:51 | kados | hi paul |
| 08:51 | toins | hi kados |
| 08:51 | kados | hdl: yes, that's correct |
| 08:51 | owen | Hi everyone |
| 08:51 | paul | hi owen |
| 08:51 | toins | hi owen |
| 08:52 | hdl | Is there a place on the wiki where you would list ALL the perl modules necessary and explain why and how you use them ? |
| 08:53 | Because installing new modules without having the slightest idea of what it is meant for is quite frustrating. | |
| 08:53 | toins | hi _paul... |
| 08:53 | kados | hdl: did you read the pod documentation? |
| 08:54 | hdl | I did. |
| 08:54 | I know what THIS module do. | |
| 08:54 | kados | what module don't you know? |
| 08:54 | hdl | But what I want to tell you is that you are not working only on your own. |
| 08:55 | kados | :-) |
| 08:55 | hdl | We are many trying to synch and it would be better to tell or warn. |
| 08:55 | Now Koha need this and that module. | |
| 08:55 | kados | The search script is very heivily documented |
| 08:56 | but I will tell you | |
| 08:56 | hdl | But ppl from SAN here had Search badly broken. |
| 08:56 | kados | don't expect to be able to just run stuff from dev_week without investing Many Many hours learning how to use zebra |
| 08:56 | hdl | And it is frustrating for them. |
| 08:57 | kados | I can imagine |
| 08:57 | hdl | Have you commited a zebra conf file that would make learning easier ? |
| 08:57 | kados | ?!?! |
| 08:57 | hdl | (friendlier) |
| 08:57 | kados | right now my job is to get my clients up and running |
| 08:58 | hdl | If we had a reference, it would help to adapt things to UNIMARC. |
| 08:58 | But you asked for comments. | |
| 08:58 | paul | hdl : i did some stuff for UNIMARC. |
| 08:58 | aren't they working anymore ? | |
| 08:58 | hdl | If we cannot get it work what will be the point in commenting ? |
| 08:59 | kados | many many months ago I tried to get people to work on zebra |
| 08:59 | but everyone gave up on it | |
| 08:59 | so I had to write my own stuff for my clients | |
| 08:59 | I'm sorry if it doesn't work out of the box for you | |
| 09:00 | but right now I have to focus on getting them up and running | |
| 09:00 | NPL goes live on October 8th | |
| 09:02 | paul | that's quite a good news for the stability of 2.4. If you think it's ready for production, then we will be able to work on something stable for rel_3 ;-) |
| 09:04 | kados | hdl: I committed all my zebra config files in the zebraplugin directory |
| 09:04 | hdl: many of them are very heavily commented | |
| 09:04 | hdl: record.abs, bib1.att, ccl.properties are the most important files | |
| 09:05 | hdl: along with zebra-biblios.cfg and koha.xml | |
| 09:05 | hdl | ok. |
| 09:05 | kados | hdl: expect to spend several weeks understanding how zebra works :-) |
| 09:06 | hdl | I have already spent some time on it. |
| 09:06 | paul | kados : you're quite pessimist I think. several weeks are needed to understand how to WRITE koha/zoom/zebra. |
| 09:07 | but hopefully, you already did 90% of the stuff, so we will just have to write the 10% missing for UNIMARC ;-) | |
| 09:07 | kados | paul: nope :-) |
| 09:07 | paul: I'm not pessimist, just realistic | |
| 09:07 | hdl | And UNIMARC has some peculiarity that you overlooked for want of time. and I understand. |
| 09:08 | kados | it goes deeper than that |
| 09:08 | to properly search UNIMARC you will need to understand the Z39.50 protocol deeply | |
| 09:09 | and will need to explore in detail where in UNIMARC various bib1 attributes should be | |
| 09:09 | paul | do you have a sample ? |
| 09:09 | kados | just look at ccl.properties for example |
| 09:09 | and the new record.abs | |
| 09:10 | ccl.properties is about 1000 lines of config and documentation | |
| 09:11 | the construction of the 007 and 008 fields in record.abs | |
| 09:11 | are another example | |
| 09:11 | I don't know how this is handled in unimarc | |
| 09:12 | but it took me several weeks to fully understand how to do it properly in USMARC | |
| 09:31 | hdl | kados: thx. |
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