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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 17:54 | russ | chris you still on the phone? |
| 17:54 | chris | yep |
| 02:16 | osmoze | hello all |
| 07:47 | owen | Good day #koha |
| 07:47 | paul | good morning owen |
| 07:48 | owen | Hi paul, how are you? |
| 07:48 | kados | hi guys |
| 07:48 | paul | hi kados. |
| 07:48 | kados | yay! :-) |
| 07:48 | how was the time off? :-) | |
| 07:48 | owen | busy busy busy |
| 07:48 | kados | (anyone else having trouble getting to bugs.koha.org?) |
| 07:50 | owen | Working for me, if slowly |
| 07:50 | kados | k ... must be my internet |
| 07:50 | owen | kados: are you in your new offices? |
| 07:50 | Read something about you moving in the log | |
| 07:50 | kados | I'm piggybacking on the frognet backbone this morning |
| 07:50 | yea, we're all moved in | |
| 07:50 | and every muscle on my body is sore :-) | |
| 07:50 | owen | Three floors up? |
| 07:50 | kados | yep |
| 07:52 | hdl | hi everyone |
| 07:53 | kados | hey hdl |
| 07:59 | owen | kados: what's on the agenda for today? |
| 08:03 | kados | well ... I'm playing catch up for the next hour or so, email and such |
| 08:03 | didn't get much done this weekend :-) | |
| 08:04 | paul | kados & owen : I installed koha 2.2.6RC to one of my library yesterday, and they think having opacnav AFTER the menus would be better than BEFORE. do you have an opinion ? |
| 08:05 | kados | is there any way to make it an option? because I have about 10 libraries or so that already use this feature |
| 08:05 | paul | a new systempref would be too much I think. I'll tell her we have decided to put it before. |
| 08:06 | she won't be too upset by this limit I bet. | |
| 08:06 | (http://catalogue.iptheologie.f[…]oha/opac-main.pl) | |
| 08:24 | owen | paul: opacnav after which menus? |
| 08:30 | paul | owen : after the main menus, on left (home/adv search/authorities headings...) |
| 08:31 | owen | paul: isn't that a template issue specific to the CSS templates? |
| 08:32 | paul | nope : iirc, yours are before the menus too. |
| 08:32 | and as we want to have only 1 set of template at the end, i don't want to add a difference where there is none for instance ! | |
| 08:48 | thd | paul: are you there? |
| 08:49 | paul | yep |
| 08:58 | thd | paul: I just wanted to ask that you include the one line fix for bulkmarcimport.pl which I committed last week to the 2.2.6 release |
| 08:59 | paul | if you committed it in rel_22, then it's included |
| 08:59 | thd | yes I did |
| 08:59 | or rel_2_2 | |
| 09:00 | kados: are you awake | |
| 09:01 | ? | |
| 09:01 | paul | (he was here 45mn ago, so no, he's not sleeping) |
| 09:40 | speedyfs | hi |
| 09:40 | dewey | bonjour, speedyfs |
| 09:40 | speedyfs | anyone on? |
| 09:41 | bonjour | |
| 09:41 | i have a ? | |
| 09:41 | the opac page for koha is giving me an internal error and im not sure from what | |
| 09:42 | paul | hi speedyfs. did you checked your logs ? |
| 09:42 | they are on / usr/local/koha/logs iirc and if you don't have changed your koha path | |
| 09:42 | speedyfs | no yet..going to |
| 09:46 | ok it says that html template new() cannot open included file .../koha/opac/htdocs/opac-tmpl/default/en/opac-main.mtpl | |
| 09:46 | tmpl | |
| 09:47 | then it says thtmlLLTemplate ::_init_template('html::Template=hash called at /usr/share/perl5/HTML/Template.pm line 1205 | |
| 09:48 | paul | there is a problem in you etc/koha.conf file I bet. the intrahtdocs is probably wrong |
| 09:48 | speedyfs | so i guess this all means that the templas arrent working |
| 09:48 | paul | which version did you install ? |
| 09:48 | speedyfs | liblime |
| 09:48 | paul | ah, then beep kados ;-) |
| 09:48 | speedyfs | cause the other one doesnt work with msql 5 |
| 09:48 | paul | you mean a version with zebra ? |
| 09:48 | speedyfs | ? |
| 09:49 | i went to liblime.com? | |
| 09:49 | yeah with the zebra | |
| 09:50 | paul | mmm... on liblime.com, the download link point to official releases (nongnu.org) |
| 09:50 | speedyfs | i spoke to someone and they said that liblime works wiht mysql 5 |
| 09:50 | hmm... | |
| 09:51 | i dunno | |
| 09:51 | paul | so I dunno either ;-) |
| 09:51 | speedyfs | im doing this to get z3950 working |
| 09:51 | should i just downgrade to mysql4? | |
| 09:51 | paul | kados was around 1:30 hour later, so he could wait for him coming back. |
| 09:52 | speedyfs | ok |
| 09:52 | hmm, | |
| 09:52 | how do i beep? | |
| 09:54 | oh and for some reason when i install it | |
| 09:54 | kados | speedyfs: what's your question? |
| 09:54 | speedyfs | hi |
| 09:54 | dewey | hey, speedyfs |
| 09:54 | speedyfs | i am getting errors on my templates |
| 09:54 | i was told that because i have mysql 5 i had to use liblime koha | |
| 09:54 | kados | what version of KOha, running on what platform with what dependencies installed? |
| 09:54 | who told you that? | |
| 09:55 | speedyfs | 2.2.5 |
| 09:55 | paul | (speedyfs : "beeping" here just means writing the nick of the person you want to speak to : most of us uses a software that warn us specifically when our nick is typed) |
| 09:55 | speedyfs | oh ok |
| 09:55 | kados | the liblime version has some enhancements, but mysql 5.0 support is not one of them |
| 09:56 | perhaps if we get sponsorship for this we could do it, but so far it's low priority | |
| 09:56 | we run mysql 4.1 | |
| 09:56 | speedyfs | ok... |
| 09:56 | it was mhelman | |
| 09:56 | so... | |
| 09:57 | i should put mysql 4 on there | |
| 09:57 | kados | not 4.0 though ... make sure 4.1 |
| 09:57 | speedyfs | ok |
| 09:57 | kados | 4.1 is the first version to truly support utf-8 |
| 09:57 | speedyfs | mysql 4.1 |
| 09:57 | ok | |
| 09:57 | currently my template page is have a problem | |
| 09:57 | www.scienceleadership.org:8000 | |
| 09:59 | kados | did you check the apache logs? |
| 10:01 | speedyfs | i checked the opac-error-logs |
| 10:06 | i am thinking if i delete everything now and reinstall with mysql 4.1 evertynig should work correct? | |
| 10:07 | kados: if i uninstall koha and install it using mysql 4.1 it should work out of box | |
| 10:07 | correct? | |
| 10:09 | in the apache error log it says that /var/www/favicon.ico does not exist | |
| 10:10 | paul | it's not really a bug : your webbrowser is searching for a favicon (to display on top-left of your window), and can't find one. |
| 10:11 | osmoze|amd64 | just create an empty file on /var/www/favicon.ico and you will not have anymore message |
| 10:13 | speedyfs | ok |
| 10:13 | that message is gone now | |
| 10:14 | but my ? was that if i get mysql 4.1 on my server and install koha all over again i shouldnt get the internal server error anymore | |
| 10:14 | does that sound right to you all | |
| 10:15 | oh and i misread what mhelman said about mysql 5 | |
| 10:15 | my bad | |
| 10:51 | hdl | tumer ? |
| 10:51 | dewey | tumer is, like, here for a few seconds ;-) |
| 10:53 | thd | owen: are you there? |
| 10:53 | owen | Yes |
| 10:54 | thd | owen: I wanted to ask why you use a 'pixilated' rather than a percent of screen width value for the left column in the NPL templates |
| 10:55 | owen | In which version? |
| 10:55 | thd | owen: the version being used for your current efforts on Zoom OPAC |
| 10:56 | speedyfs | HEY Kados, paul thanks for your help :) its working now |
| 10:57 | owen | thd: because using percentages broke the layout at larger screen sizes |
| 10:57 | paul | your welcome |
| 10:58 | thd | owen: how did they break the layout. Did everything not expand proportionately? |
| 10:58 | owen | Are you having problems with the fixed width? |
| 11:00 | thd | owen: no, except that I think once code exists for putting the facets from all the results instead of just that page you are liable to see a problem. |
| 11:04 | owen | thd: Won't we just be talking about a longer rather than a wider list? |
| 11:05 | thd | owen: I suspect a small fixed width constrains coding imagination of how the facets are used as well. I am not referring to my infomaniac conceptions but just common sense notions for finding other records with the facet exclusively. |
| 11:06 | owen: much longer instead of wider if subjects also have subdivisions appearing. | |
| 11:06 | owen: if it is wider there would be less wrapping. | |
| 11:07 | owen: this is not a significant issue for NPL which has very few subdivided subjects and a very small portion of non-fiction in the collection. | |
| 11:10 | owen: there are many ways to address the issue including a facets tab which gives facets plenty of room. I just wanted to know what your thought was about fixing pixel sizes. | |
| 11:11 | owen: where do the library navigation links which had occupied the left column go now? | |
| 11:11 | owen: I mean where do the links that preceded facets go now? | |
| 11:13 | owen | If opacnav is enabled, those links will appear above the facets |
| 11:14 | thd | owen: many libraries have a very long list of opacnav type links |
| 11:14 | owen: not current Koha libraries but libraries in the world | |
| 11:15 | owen | We could remove opacnav from the search results screen altogether |
| 11:16 | paul_away | bye #koha & see you tomorrow |
| 11:16 | thd | owen: I just wonder whether the brief results really need so much screen space, particularly at high resolutions |
| 11:17 | bye paul_away | |
| 11:18 | owen: does JavaScript allow automatic detection of screen resolution? | |
| 11:18 | or browser window size? | |
| 11:19 | owen | More current browsers can use javascript to detect the width of the browser window |
| 11:21 | thd | owen: I was thinking, that if browser window width were found to be high enough opacnav could be an additional leftmost column |
| 11:22 | owen: does JavaScript allow changing stylesheets based on some variable? | |
| 11:22 | owen | Javascript can manipulate the styles of elements on the page. It can't swap whole stylesheets. |
| 11:25 | thd | owen: Do you mean that JavaScript could redraw the page and change the classes for various elements to different ones used by the same stylesheet? |
| 11:25 | owen | Yes |
| 11:26 | thd | owen: ok, thanks, I will think about that a little |
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