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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 12:10 | slef | Did Landis take them or was he given them, though? |
| 12:13 | shedges | hi owen -- saw Lauren yesterday |
| 12:15 | owen | Did she pepper you with questions? Where you left the stapler, etc? |
| 12:19 | shedges | more like 'where are the T1 lines' |
| 12:33 | kados | hehe |
| 12:50 | shedges | she needs to get started on the OPLIN survey (oplin.org/survey) |
| 13:03 | cm | is someone doing something to the wiki? I can't get in. |
| 13:21 | never mind. I see that it's back. :) | |
| 13:21 | kados | cm: try now |
| 13:21 | cm | I beat you to it! :D |
| 13:21 | thanks! | |
| 13:22 | kados | cm: how's the install coming? |
| 13:23 | cm | ugh. I'm trying it again today. Figured I should wait a little while to let the dust settle on dev_week. |
| 13:23 | kados | well .. it's not going to :-) |
| 13:23 | but you can just update cvs to keep up | |
| 13:23 | cm | figured as much, but I'll give it a shot anyway. |
| 13:24 | last time I tried it was completely dysfunctional, so I'm starting over from scratch. | |
| 13:24 | kados | probably a good idea |
| 13:24 | :-) | |
| 13:24 | let me know if I can help | |
| 13:26 | cm | I will, thanks. |
| 14:40 | thd | kados: I have a question |
| 14:41 | kados | thd: sure |
| 17:23 | thd | kados: the message I just sent to you exceeds the autocat list size quota by over a factor of 4 |
| 18:21 | russ: how do I get to the the proper /en/ section of the current wiki? | |
| 18:22 | russ | hi thd |
| 18:22 | two secs | |
| 18:23 | thd | hello russ |
| 18:25 | russ | ah the page isnt in the right place |
| 18:25 | 2 minutes | |
| 18:28 | thd: it appears that i never made the en page, an oversight on my part | |
| 18:28 | just getting my password resent from the wiki | |
| 18:28 | and then i'll move the newwikihome there | |
| 18:28 | thd | russ: I thought I posted to the /en/ page during devel week |
| 18:29 | or that you had migrated the old content to a new improved /en/ | |
| 18:29 | russ | there is a http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=newwikihome |
| 18:29 | no i had made this page | |
| 18:30 | the intent was to make this the new en page | |
| 18:30 | one of the many tasks left not done | |
| 18:31 | thd | russ: we need Ineo to see the light and hire pierrick back to work on Koha |
| 18:31 | russ | lol |
| 18:32 | i have been slowly going through every page on the wiki trying to sort if it current or not | |
| 18:32 | thd | russ: I have some new content that I want to post |
| 18:32 | russ: where should I post it | |
| 18:33 | russ | what is it? |
| 18:33 | thd | russ: subject searching development design for the OPAC |
| 18:34 | kados | :-) |
| 18:34 | russ | thd: under here i guess |
| 18:34 | http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=en:development | |
| 18:34 | kados | how about en:thd :-) |
| 18:34 | thd | kados: well I could start now |
| 18:35 | kados | thd: that'd be really great, seriosuly |
| 18:35 | thd | kados: especially as I cannot post that much text on autocat |
| 18:35 | kados | thd: exactly |
| 18:36 | thd | kados: furthermore it was intended for the wiki with some wiki markup |
| 18:36 | kados | cool |
| 18:36 | thd | kados: really unreadable as text :) |
| 18:36 | chris | karen schneider is a clown |
| 18:36 | http://www.techsource.ala.org/[…]geons-asides.html | |
| 18:36 | since when is perl a software program | |
| 18:37 | arsehat | |
| 18:37 | thats my rant for the day :) | |
| 18:39 | kados | yea, she's mental |
| 18:43 | thd | she maintains http://lii.org/ |
| 18:43 | chris | yep |
| 18:44 | which i could do with 7 lines of perl | |
| 18:44 | :) | |
| 18:44 | she seems to have a serious amount of time on her hands for writing blog posts and emailing lists | |
| 18:58 | kados | chris: http://www.techsource.ala.org/[…]html#postcomments |
| 18:59 | chris: I posted a response | |
| 18:59 | chris: I'd urge you to do the same | |
| 18:59 | in fact, I'd urge the whole channel to | |
| 18:59 | too even | |
| 18:59 | russ: you around? | |
| 18:59 | mason | kados, i just commited a newer version of labels-print-pdf.pl to koha.2.2 |
| 18:59 | kados | mason: k ... I'll check it out |
| 18:59 | mason | i think this coud be the one |
| 18:59 | kados | woot |
| 19:00 | mason | largely coz its using someone elses word-wrap module :) |
| 19:00 | kados | do I need to install a new module? |
| 19:01 | mason | yes :( install Text::Wrap |
| 19:02 | chris | will do |
| 19:02 | kados | I wonder if we can get stephen to respond too |
| 19:03 | mason | chris/bob suggested that some on the big gaps in the text display may be caused by nl/cr 's in the text? ... |
| 19:04 | so its doing a regex to strip those out before formatting | |
| 19:04 | kados | cool |
| 19:04 | looks good | |
| 19:04 | I'm gonna ask the client to accept it | |
| 19:04 | thanks mason | |
| 19:05 | mason | kados: are the text big gaps gone from the agfrognak koha? |
| 19:05 | kados | it looks like it |
| 19:06 | afognak, not afrognak :-) | |
| 19:06 | but that's really funny | |
| 19:06 | mason | bah, ive been trying to remember their name :) |
| 19:06 | kados | :-) |
| 19:07 | mason: can you also commit the table changes to updatedatabase | |
| 19:07 | mason | yes, afognak sounds soooo much more sensible |
| 19:07 | kados | mason: and any new modules |
| 19:07 | hehe | |
| 19:08 | chris: http://www.techsource.ala.org/[…]ist-of-shame.html | |
| 19:08 | mason | yes, will do that, i might ask chris for a hand, ive found it a bit tricky to work out |
| 19:08 | kados | chris: that's the list she means |
| 19:08 | chris: I think we can do most everything on it | |
| 19:08 | chris: we just need to improve the way things look | |
| 19:08 | thd: we need to decide on the faceted subject browse feature | |
| 19:09 | thd: did you post your doc yet? | |
| 19:09 | thd | kados: I am posting now |
| 19:09 | kados: did you try to read the email | |
| 19:09 | ? | |
| 19:12 | kados | soliciting a email |
| 19:15 | thd | kados: my document needs some global changes to be ready for the wiki |
| 19:15 | kados: it is currently much more readable in the email :) | |
| 19:16 | kados | thd: :-) |
| 19:16 | thd: let me know when the format is readable :-) | |
| 19:17 | thd | kados: how should I make the wiki equivalent of <br /> ? |
| 19:18 | kados | just put some line breaks in |
| 19:18 | thd | kados: do you mean * ? |
| 19:19 | kados | thd: no |
| 19:19 | thd: just hit enter to create a line break ... that should work | |
| 19:19 | thd: where's the link, I'll help | |
| 19:20 | thd | kados: my newlines are mushed into one line |
| 19:21 | kados: http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]ng_element_access | |
| 19:23 | kados | thd: you need to save it |
| 19:23 | thd: I can't view it until you do | |
| 19:24 | thd | kados: I thought you had special powers :) |
| 19:24 | kados | hehe |
| 19:26 | thd | kados: it is saved and does not even show the beginning of the document |
| 19:36 | kados: I must have some code which is confusing the wiki | |
| 19:36 | kados | looks like it |
| 19:36 | thd | kados: can I isolate sections of the text by degrees? |
| 19:37 | kados: maybe I will empty the document add a paragraph at a time til I find a problem | |
| 19:40 | kados | thd: does the NCSU catalog use FAST? |
| 19:41 | thd | kados: do you have a link to a record which looks like it is using FAST? |
| 19:41 | kados | thd: http://www2.lib.ncsu.edu/catal[…]rt=0&N=4294503792 |
| 19:42 | thd: not a record, but the faceted results on the left-hand side | |
| 19:47 | thd | kados: no their system just has the same problem with subject display for the result set as Koha had in the record detail view at until recently. |
| 19:48 | kados: 650 #0 $a Boys $z Missouri $v Fiction. is shown as Boys in the result set list | |
| 19:48 | kados: maybe the other subfields appear elsewhere in the list | |
| 19:48 | kados | yea, it looked that way to me |
| 19:50 | thd | kados: did you read my criticism of how FAST lacks precision |
| 19:53 | kados | yep |
| 19:53 | you're right | |
| 19:53 | but I think for a opac side-bar, it may do the trick | |
| 19:54 | at least for dev_week :-) | |
| 19:54 | thd | kados: :( |
| 19:55 | kados: you have to have a conversion application and the FAST authority files to convert LCSH to FAST before you could use it | |
| 19:55 | kados | I don't think a hugely complex subject tree is going to be useful as a discovery or a limiting feature for a search performed |
| 19:55 | though I do think it would be useful as a subject browse feature | |
| 19:55 | but that should be a separate interface I think | |
| 19:55 | thd: yea ... | |
| 19:56 | thd: I think I'm going to revert to my original design of just showing the $a | |
| 19:56 | thd | kados: most of what I show in the email is browsing |
| 19:56 | kados | it's nice and simple and the user won't be confused by the hierarchical list |
| 19:57 | thd | kados: that is not a subject heading and in a real system with many records you could have a result set of 10,000s from following an $a link |
| 19:58 | with the current searching design for subjects in Koha | |
| 19:59 | kados: actually you could have hundreds in a real system with some problems which I can show you if I get this into a viewable state | |
| 20:03 | kados: and I mean hundreds with a search using 3 subject subfield terms which might otherwise give you the magic 30 results that everyone wants | |
| 20:16 | kados: I suspect you are concerned about screen real estate | |
| 20:16 | kados: a good feature needs room so put at the bottom and link to from the top of the page | |
| 20:17 | kados: or make it a wicked pop-up | |
| 20:36 | I will struggle more again later | |
| 20:36 | s/new/knew/ | |
| 21:23 | chris | kados/russ |
| 21:23 | http://freerangelibrarian.com/[…]rience_with_a.php | |
| 21:26 | cya later | |
| 02:11 | osmoze | hello |
| 02:12 | btoumi | hi all |
| 02:12 | osmoze | salut btoumi ! |
| 02:12 | btoumi | salut osmoze |
| 02:12 | comment va? | |
| 02:18 | osmoze | trop bien, il fait pas chaud et je pars en week end ce soir, que du bonheur :) |
| 02:18 | et toi ? | |
| 02:22 | btoumi | il fait pas chaud et je part en vacance ce soir super kool |
| 02:24 | osmoze: :=) | |
| 02:25 | osmoze | :( tu restes en france ? |
| 02:25 | btoumi | oui |
| 02:26 | j'irai faire un tour en montagne une semaine surement | |
| 02:26 | paul | hello tout le monde |
| 02:27 | btoumi | hi paul comment ca va? t |
| 02:27 | paul | bien merci. Ma petite famille est de retour, ca fait du mouvement dans la maison |
| 02:27 | btoumi | lol |
| 02:27 | paul | ce matin, petit dej sur la terrasse. |
| 02:28 | btoumi | y'en a qui aime faire raller ;=) |
| 02:28 | paul : comment on fait pour beuzzer quelqu'un? | |
| 02:28 | paul | beuzzer ? |
| 02:28 | tu veux appeler kados par exemple ? | |
| 02:29 | btoumi | ou bipper |
| 02:29 | non chris | |
| 02:29 | paul | tu répètes plusieurs fois une phrase avec le nick de celui que tu veux appeller. |
| 02:29 | btoumi | ah ok |
| 02:29 | osmoze | coucou paul :) |
| 02:29 | paul | la plupart des softs d'irc font qqc de spécial qd ils voient ton nom |
| 02:30 | du coup, si tu répètes 5 fois la même phrase, ca va faire 5 bips particuliers en son, ou afficher 5 fenêtres d'alerte | |
| 02:31 | btoumi | qu'as tu fai osmoze g un drole de message |
| 02:31 | osmoze | rien, j ai juste regarder la version du soft que tu utilises |
| 02:31 | btoumi | ah ok |
| 02:33 | paul: chris est ce que chris est en vacance? | |
| 02:34 | paul | je ne sais pas, mais je ne pense pas : c'est l'hiver chez eux, donc pas la saison des vacances !!! |
| 02:34 | btoumi | lol j'ai presque faillit oublier ;=) |
| 02:39 | hi toins__ | |
| 02:40 | paul | toins__ ? non, il n'est pas là à priori. ou alors il est devenu invisible... |
| 02:41 | btoumi | ct juste pour lui dire que je participe au nettoyage de printemps de koha (meme si on est en ete);=) |
| 02:43 | paul | tu nettoies quoi ? |
| 02:45 | btoumi | je travaille sur les fines |
| 02:47 | et je met les requetes sql en forme en relation avec les regles de codages | |
| 02:47 | c pas grand chose mais ca evite de repasser dessus | |
| 02:49 | ;=) | |
| 02:55 | toins | btoumi: je suis la maintenant ! |
| 02:55 | btoumi | rien d'important antoine lit ce que g marquer avant ;=) |
| 02:57 | toins | oui j'ai vu... |
| 04:36 | paul | hello chris |
| 04:36 | chris | just got back from a friends art exhibition opening |
| 04:36 | hi paul, hows the adsl going? | |
| 04:36 | paul | fine now. |
| 04:36 | everything back to normal situation ! | |
| 04:36 | chris | :) |
| 04:37 | i saw france telecom was on slashdot the other day | |
| 04:38 | http://www.presence-pc.com/act[…]experience-18331/ | |
| 04:38 | pierrick might be able get some very fast internet :) | |
| 04:39 | paul | :-) |
| 08:22 | hey... hpassini on the channel | |
| 08:23 | it's a great day !!! | |
| 08:25 | btoumi | yes it's a great day for her too |
| 08:25 | ;=) | |
| 08:25 | paul | it's birthday maybe ? |
| 08:25 | (or it's a bot & hpassini is not really here...) | |
| 08:26 | hpassini: tell me who is the winner of the tour de france this year ? | |
| 08:26 | btoumi | it's not really here all the time :=) |
| 08:27 | hpassini | c un americain |
| 08:27 | paul | yes, it's not a bot, it's the true hpassini ! |
| 08:27 | (a bot would have answered in english ;-) ) | |
| 08:28 | owen | Is it a trick question? Who knows who really won! |
| 08:28 | btoumi | i confirm she's really here |
| 08:28 | paul | owen: the doctor who sells the medicines ;-) |
| 08:28 | btoumi | lol |
| 08:29 | hpassini | paul j des soucis avec build_authorities et je risque de t'appeler la semaine prochaine !!! |
| 08:30 | paul | je serai là, pas de prob |
| 08:53 | thd | kados: are you there? |
| 09:01 | btoumi | bye all my hollidays wait me |
| 09:01 | paul | bye btoumi |
| 09:01 | & bonnes vacances | |
| 09:01 | btoumi | merci paul |
| 09:02 | et a bientot | |
| 09:05 | osmoze | bonne vacances ;) |
| 09:06 | btoumi | merci osmoze |
| 09:07 | :paul j'essayreia d'etre la pour le meeting lundi prochain | |
| 09:19 | kados | paul: you around? |
| 09:19 | paul: I found a very strange bug in rel_2_2 | |
| 09:21 | thd: yes, I'm here | |
| 09:22 | hdl | hi kados |
| 09:22 | hi thd | |
| 09:22 | bonne vacances btoumi | |
| 09:22 | btoumi | merci hdl: |
| 09:23 | thd | kados: may we have darker green or another dark colour for internal links on the wiki? |
| 09:23 | hello all | |
| 09:23 | btoumi | hello thd |
| 09:23 | kados | thd: I wouldn't know where to start with that |
| 09:23 | thd: and don't have time to investigate today :( | |
| 09:24 | thd | kados: I guess I can make them all bold but contrast is low with a white background |
| 09:25 | kados: what type of bug did you find other than strange? | |
| 09:37 | hdl | toins around ??? |
| 09:37 | toins | yep |
| 11:11 | osmoze | bye all |
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