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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 15:45 | russ | morning all |
| 15:45 | chris | morning |
| 15:51 | czokie | chris - updatedatabase in 2.3 does not create all required preferences fields..... |
| 15:52 | for new installs - would probably work for a 2.2 -> 2.3 upgrade ... but not for a fresh install | |
| 15:53 | also - am having problems creating borrowers or bib entries in 2.3 .... Not sure of the problem yet - will look over the next few days. | |
| 15:53 | chris | hmm interesting, because its the same script that runs in 2.2 |
| 15:53 | czokie | I had a look at the values in the script. |
| 15:53 | There is a lot of parameters table data missing from 2.3 version | |
| 15:54 | To fix, I extracted 2.2 script, ran it, and then re-ran 2.3 script. | |
| 15:54 | chris | weird, i guess something went wrong in the merge from 2.2 |
| 15:54 | czokie | That may be what broke other things .... |
| 15:55 | chris | if you could right it up in an email that would be great |
| 15:55 | i wont be working on it this week, but joshua and others might be | |
| 15:55 | czokie | I am thinking of doing a 2.2 db install, updatedatabase 2.2, updatedatabase 2.3 to see if it gets me going, but that can wait for a bit ...(Work work work) |
| 15:56 | chris | right |
| 15:56 | i dont think that will work either :) | |
| 15:57 | in fact i would have been hugely suprised if you got 2.3 to go... but knowing the things that broke .. will help us make a 2.3.1 that might actually be installable :-) | |
| 02:21 | ToinS | hi all |
| 02:21 | btoumi | hi all!!!! |
| 02:22 | chris: are u around | |
| 02:31 | ToinS | salut bruno |
| 02:32 | btoumi | salut toins ca va? |
| 02:32 | ToinS | yep |
| 02:32 | ca va | |
| 02:32 | et toi ? | |
| 02:33 | btoumi | ca va bien apre sun long week end |
| 02:34 | t'aurais pas vu passer chris ? :=) | |
| 02:58 | paul | hello world |
| 03:11 | btoumi | HI PAUL |
| 03:11 | paul | hello bruno |
| 03:12 | btoumi | lol kool |
| 03:12 | paul | (but still get no results, even i I should have 7) |
| 03:12 | (I mean querying with yaz-client give me 7 results, querying through Koha gives me 0 | |
| 03:13 | ) | |
| 03:13 | btoumi | u search with koha interface? |
| 03:13 | paul | yep. |
| 03:13 | btoumi | not on head |
| 03:13 | paul | nope, on dev_week |
| 03:13 | it's this one : | |
| 03:13 | http://zoomopac.liblime.com/ | |
| 03:13 | dewey | http://zoomopac.liblime.com/ is working now wher do i look |
| 03:13 | btoumi | ok |
| 03:14 | paul | (still no internet at my office, still working on my laptop, at ToinS home...) |
| 03:14 | btoumi | and zebra works with unimarc? |
| 03:14 | paul | it will work soon : just 1 file to modify ;-) |
| 03:14 | to 'map' bib1 attset to unimarc fields. | |
| 03:15 | btoumi | ok |
| 03:15 | paul | the record.abs file says for marc21 : |
| 03:15 | melm 100author | |
| 03:15 | I will change this to melm 200 author | |
| 03:15 | btoumi | i follow ur discussion with joshua about that |
| 03:15 | paul | 120 lines to modify |
| 03:15 | btoumi | ok |
| 03:16 | me zebra works but only on konsole not in koha interface | |
| 03:16 | paul | did you tried dev_week ? |
| 03:17 | btoumi | now because i work on fines now |
| 03:17 | there is a lot of works | |
| 03:18 | when i will finish i work on zebra | |
| 03:18 | i try the url that u give me | |
| 03:18 | paul | don't forget my holidays will be august 7 => 23 |
| 03:18 | btoumi | like me |
| 03:19 | i begin the 28 july => 21 august | |
| 03:20 | now i wait for chris i hope i see him this morning for my works on fine | |
| 03:21 | paul | did you "beep" him ? |
| 03:21 | btoumi | no |
| 03:22 | paul | I did it for you then ;-) |
| 03:22 | btoumi | thank u |
| 03:22 | :=) | |
| 03:29 | paul : do u work with ur pull over ;=) | |
| 03:29 | paul | yes, of course |
| 03:29 | quite cold in Marseille today. Some snow expected in the next hours | |
| 03:29 | btoumi | lol |
| 03:30 | i just see ice in my glass | |
| 03:31 | i think that chris is not here | |
| 03:32 | for the moment | |
| 04:11 | paul: are u around ? | |
| 04:11 | paul | yep |
| 04:11 | btoumi | just one question |
| 04:12 | do u now the different possible value for itemlost ? | |
| 04:12 | paul | they can be defined in an authorised_value list. So there is no limit |
| 04:13 | btoumi | because in fines2.pl |
| 04:14 | u have test on this value and test is like this if itemlost=2 && itemlost=1 | |
| 04:14 | itemlost ne 2 and itemlost ne 1 | |
| 04:15 | paul | my bet is that =0 => item not lost. >=0 => item lost |
| 04:17 | btoumi | i think like that but i don 't now why u have 2 value ,u must test only >0 not 1 or 2 |
| 04:17 | t y for u answer | |
| 04:25 | chris | hi all |
| 04:25 | sorry bruno i was playing volleyball | |
| 04:25 | paul is right | |
| 04:25 | 1 and 2 are lost | |
| 04:25 | paul | hello chris. |
| 04:25 | chris | 1 = lost, marked lost by the librarian |
| 04:25 | 2 = lost, marked lost by koha | |
| 04:25 | btoumi | ok thanks |
| 04:25 | paul | do you have 5mn to speak of zebra things, or do you need a shower asap ? |
| 04:25 | btoumi | hi chris do u win? |
| 04:26 | chris | at HLT and a few other libraries, after a certain time that a book is overdue, perhaps 4 weeks or 6 weeks |
| 04:26 | then koha marks it lost=2 | |
| 04:26 | bruno: no .. it was 2 - 2 | |
| 04:26 | a draw | |
| 04:27 | btoumi | lol |
| 04:27 | paul | chris : do you have 5mn to speak of zebra things, or do you need a shower asap ? |
| 04:28 | I'm not sure to understand well the record.abs file syntax. | |
| 04:28 | and the indexdata doc is unclear to me | |
| 04:28 | chris | ive had a shower |
| 04:28 | btoumi | i take a ticket to speak about fines chris: just after paul ;=) |
| 04:29 | chris | i can try, im not sure i fully understand it either ... yeah i find their documentation quite hard to read |
| 04:29 | paul | what means : |
| 04:29 | melm 200$fauthor,author:p,author:s | |
| 04:29 | author, author:p, author:s ? | |
| 04:29 | chris | ahh i knew this |
| 04:30 | paul | I also see the !:w |
| 04:30 | and !:p | |
| 04:30 | chris | they are different types of indexes |
| 04:30 | !:p is the same as author:p | |
| 04:30 | so you could go | |
| 04:31 | author,!:p,!:s | |
| 04:31 | and that would be the same as above | |
| 04:31 | paul | and what's the difference between nothing, :p :s and !:w ? |
| 04:31 | chris | im trying to remember :) |
| 04:31 | paul | s/!:w/:w/ |
| 04:32 | chris | ahh tumer will know |
| 04:35 | btoumi | chris: can i show with u for fines? |
| 04:36 | chris | ah ha :w = word |
| 04:37 | :w = word | |
| 04:38 | paul2 | and :p, :s, nothing ? (if you wrote something, I missed it) |
| 04:38 | chris | The attributes can be qualified with field types to specify which character set should govern the indexing procedure for that field. The same data element may be indexed into several different fields, using different character set definitions. See the the section called âField Structure and Character Sets â?. The default field type is w for word . |
| 04:38 | somewhere it must tell us what p and s are .. ill try and find it | |
| 04:39 | f a Structure attribute of Phrase is used in conjunction with a Completeness attribute of Complete (Sub)field , the term is matched against the contents of the phrase (long word) register, if one exists for the given Use attribute. A phrase register is created for those fields in the .abs file that contains a p-specifier. | |
| 04:40 | p = phrase | |
| 04:40 | paul2 | exactly the kind of paragraph I don't understand ;-) |
| 04:40 | chris | n = numeric |
| 04:41 | tumer | hi chris you wanted something? |
| 04:41 | chris | w = word, p = phrase, n=numeric, u=url |
| 04:41 | paul2 | hello tumer. it's me that asked a question about record.abs* |
| 04:41 | chris | i dont know what :s is |
| 04:41 | paul2 | and nothing means :w isn't it? |
| 04:42 | chris | yes i think nothing is :w by default |
| 04:42 | paul2 | so title, title:p, title:s means : index this field as title, as word AND as phrase and as <s> ? |
| 04:42 | chris | tumer trying to explain |
| 04:42 | melm 200$f author,author:p,author:s | |
| 04:42 | to paul | |
| 04:42 | btoumi | chris:can u beep me when u are not busy to discuss about fines |
| 04:43 | chris | will do bruno |
| 04:43 | btoumi | ty chris |
| 04:43 | chris | i think maybe :s allows you to sort by that field |
| 04:44 | yep, im pretty sure thats what it is | |
| 04:45 | ok bruno, lets talk about fines | |
| 04:48 | tumer | can anybody see me there i have aprolem with connection i think |
| 04:48 | s/aprolem/ a problem | |
| 04:49 | paul | yep |
| 04:49 | chris | i can see you tumer |
| 04:49 | paul | tumer: you're here, but have been disconnected |
| 04:49 | & reconnected 3 seconds later | |
| 04:49 | tumer | thanks paul |
| 04:51 | paul you ok with zebra indexing? | |
| 04:51 | paul | not sure, but i'll try to investigate, chris gave me some hints. |
| 04:51 | I have another question tumer | |
| 04:51 | tumer | shoot |
| 04:51 | paul | when I search on yaz-client : "find delmas" I get 7 answers, as expected |
| 04:52 | but when I search on zoomopac-search, I get 0 answers | |
| 04:52 | any idea why ? | |
| 04:52 | tumer | hmm no |
| 04:52 | paul | I also tried a search by author : |
| 04:52 | [Mon Jul 17 10:18:28 2006] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] Boolean Operators: at /home/paul/koha.dev/dev_week/opac/opac-zoomsearch.pl line 534., referer: http://o19.portable.paulpoulai[…]pac-zoomsearch.pl | |
| 04:52 | [Mon Jul 17 10:18:28 2006] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] Sort by: at /home/paul/koha.dev/dev_week/opac/opac-zoomsearch.pl line 536., referer: http://o19.portable.paulpoulai[…]pac-zoomsearch.pl | |
| 04:52 | [Mon Jul 17 10:18:28 2006] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] PQF: @attr 1=1003 @attr 4=1 @attr 5=1 "delmas" at /home/paul/koha.dev/dev_week/opac/opac-zoomsearch.pl line 537., referer: http://o19.portable.paulpoulai[…]pac-zoomsearch.pl | |
| 04:52 | [Mon Jul 17 10:18:28 2006] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] Full PQF: @attr 1=1003 @attr 4=1 @attr 5=1 "delmas" at /home/paul/koha.dev/dev_week/opac/opac-zoomsearch.pl line 538., referer: http://o19.portable.paulpoulai[…]pac-zoomsearch.pl | |
| 04:52 | [Mon Jul 17 10:18:28 2006] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] NICE: delmas at /home/paul/koha.dev/dev_week/opac/opac-zoomsearch.pl line 539., referer: http://o19.portable.paulpoulai[…]pac-zoomsearch.pl | |
| 04:53 | and got no answer either. | |
| 04:53 | what is very strange too is that | |
| 04:53 | find @attr 1=1003 @attr 4=1 @attr 5=1 "delmas" | |
| 04:53 | in yaz-client works well too | |
| 04:53 | tumer | remind me 4=1 is phrase? |
| 04:55 | well i do not use opac-zoomsearch.pl so i do not know abou whether its buggy | |
| 04:56 | ToinS | there is often a #' just before a declaration of sub. Anyone knows what does it mean ? |
| 04:56 | paul | what do you use ? |
| 04:56 | tumer | in yaz client if it works then its correct |
| 04:57 | also write "help find" in yaz client and it gives you what attributes 4=1 is | |
| 04:57 | if you are doing a search on phrase you should index as phrase :p | |
| 04:57 | (:p) | |
| 05:00 | paul: is use opac-search.pl in dev_week | |
| 05:01 | or catalogue-home.pl in intranet | |
| 05:02 | paul | no answer with opac(search either :( |
| 05:02 | 12:02:24-17/07 [session] Connect from tcp:127.0.0.1 | |
| 05:02 | 12:02:24-17/07 zebrasrv(14) [session] Starting session 14 from tcp:127.0.0.1 (pid=6504) | |
| 05:02 | 12:02:24-17/07 zebrasrv(14) [log] User perm for perm.anonymous: r | |
| 05:02 | 12:02:24-17/07 zebrasrv(14) [request] Auth none | |
| 05:02 | 12:02:24-17/07 zebrasrv(14) [request] Init OK - ID:81/81 Name:ZOOM-C/YAZ Version:1.78/2.1.22 | |
| 05:02 | 12:02:24-17/07 zebrasrv(14) [log] ResultSet '1' | |
| 05:02 | 12:02:24-17/07 zebrasrv(14) [log][app2] zebra_register_open rw = 0 useshadow=0 p=0x8197478,n=,rp=(none) | |
| 05:02 | 12:02:24-17/07 zebrasrv(14) [log] profilePath=.:/usr/local/share/idzebra/tab/:/home/paul/koha.dev/dev_week/zebraplugin/zebradb/biblios/tab/:./tab/ cwd=/home/paul/koha.dev/dev_week/zebraplugin/zebradb/biblios | |
| 05:02 | 12:02:24-17/07 zebrasrv(14) [log] 0 keys, 0 sysnos, rank | |
| 05:02 | 12:02:24-17/07 zebrasrv(14) [log] term="delmas" nn=0 type=void count=0 | |
| 05:02 | 12:02:24-17/07 zebrasrv(14) [log] user/system: 0/0 | |
| 05:02 | 12:02:24-17/07 zebrasrv(14) [request] Search OK 0 1 1+0 RPN: @attrset Bib-1 delmas | |
| 05:02 | 12:02:25-17/07 zebrasrv(14) [session] Connection closed by client | |
| 05:02 | 12:02:25-17/07 zebrasrv(14) [log][app2] zebra_register_close p=0x8197478 | |
| 05:02 | mmm... I suspect a database name problem | |
| 05:03 | chris | good suspicion paul |
| 05:04 | paul | alleluia !!! |
| 05:04 | works fine !! | |
| 05:04 | chris | :) |
| 05:05 | paul | the zebra DB name was biblio and default in my koha.xml |
| 05:05 | (I had 2, and removed one, but made a mistake) | |
| 05:06 | and UTF-8 works fine too... | |
| 05:11 | tumer | so you can search accented characters and no problem occurs? |
| 05:12 | paul | but what I say with utf-8 is that my database have moved from 8859-1 to utf-8 |
| 05:12 | nothing related to zebra. | |
| 05:12 | tumer | well search even it does not exist |
| 05:13 | the problem ocuring is this: | |
| 05:14 | the search term after the search displayed on screen as broken utf8 | |
| 05:16 | chris | ahh |
| 05:16 | so it searches ok, but displays what you typed in wrong? | |
| 05:17 | tumer | yes chris it reencodes the term and anything accented on your template gets broken |
| 05:17 | chris | ahh right |
| 05:18 | tumer | i had to re-write my USMARC.pm to correct this |
| 05:19 | but i want to know whether anyone else is getting it | |
| 05:21 | chris | ill try to get it up and running here and test it |
| 05:28 | paul_lunch | good night chris |
| 07:08 | paul | kados around ? |
| 07:08 | if yes, a good news : I've made my 1st search successfully on opaczoom-search.pl !!! | |
| 07:15 | tumer[A]: i've a problem with accented chars too : when I search for "probabilité", I should get many answers, but I just get : | |
| 07:15 | Results for Search: biblio.title contains probabilit? | |
| 07:15 | No results found. | |
| 07:34 | tumer | paul the accented character problem is due to new M:F:X |
| 07:34 | i sent on devel a new USMARC.pm which corrects this | |
| 07:35 | the second is your .chr file in tab does not define your accented characters | |
| 07:36 | you have to define your whole alphabet in sort-string-utf.chr file | |
| 07:37 | i committed one with some accented characters in but i think kados overwritten that | |
| 07:39 | ping me if you need help with .chr file | |
| 07:50 | paul | tumer: i'm back |
| 07:50 | tumer | hi again paul |
| 07:51 | paul | my sort-string-utf is 1.1.2.1, which is from kados it seems. |
| 07:51 | it's only 47 lines long | |
| 07:51 | #map ��e | |
| 07:51 | the # means it's commented, right ? | |
| 07:51 | tumer | yes |
| 07:52 | paul | so uncommenting it should be the solution ? |
| 07:52 | tumer | also the alphabet should contain these charavters |
| 07:52 | paul | ??? |
| 07:52 | tumer | top line a-z including accented characters |
| 07:53 | paul | lowercase {0-9}{a-y}üzæäøöå |
| 07:53 | uppercase {0-9}{A-Y}ÜZÆÄØÖÅ | |
| 07:53 | those ones ? | |
| 07:53 | tumer | those one should contain é etc |
| 07:54 | in their normal sorting order | |
| 07:54 | according to french | |
| 07:54 | mine has lowercase {0-9}aâbcçdefgğhıiîjklmnoöpqrsştuüvwxyz | |
| 07:56 | also if you need to find probabilité when you search probabilite .. | |
| 07:56 | you should add "equivalent eé" | |
| 07:58 | paul:do you follow? | |
| 07:58 | paul | yep, many thanks |
| 07:58 | what is a shame is not to be able to have the name of this file as parameter. | |
| 07:58 | (same for record.abs) | |
| 07:59 | because i'll have to commit "sort-string-utf_for_french.chr" | |
| 07:59 | and during install, we will have to remane it | |
| 07:59 | tumer | you can change the name of this file but its still valif for all |
| 07:59 | s/valif/valid | |
| 08:00 | not ebing able to rename record.abs is already causing problems with me | |
| 08:00 | i am investigating other indexing filters in zebra currently | |
| 08:02 | we should probably have a more global with most european accents in | |
| 08:03 | but whatever we do KOHA will still need language adjustments at installation | |
| 08:03 | paul | tumer : |
| 08:03 | map (^The\s) @ | |
| 08:04 | tumer | that is a stop word |
| 08:04 | paul | means "the" at beginning of a string must be eliminated for ordering isn't it ? |
| 08:04 | tumer | correct |
| 08:04 | all stop word has to go in here | |
| 08:04 | another localisation to be done | |
| 08:08 | "sort-string-utf_for_french.chr" | |
| 08:10 | paul:to make zebra read from "sort-string-utf_for_french.chr" go into defaul.idx | |
| 08:10 | you will see that its related in there | |
| 08:10 | "sort-string-utf_for_french.chr" | |
| 08:10 | "sort-string-utf_for_french.chr" | |
| 08:11 | changing "sort-string-utf.chr" to "sort-string-utf_for_french.chr" will also work | |
| 08:13 | so you may have french.idx which you rename to default.idx at installation or rename sort-...chr | |
| 08:25 | paul | tumer ? |
| 08:25 | dewey | somebody said tumer was here for a few seconds ;-) |
| 08:25 | paul | it seems not to work atm. |
| 08:25 | 2 syntax questions : | |
| 08:25 | tumer | say again paul |
| 08:25 | paul | is |
| 08:25 | equivalent eé | |
| 08:25 | correct ? | |
| 08:25 | tumer | yes |
| 08:25 | paul | map ����e |
| 08:26 | map ��e | |
| 08:26 | ? | |
| 08:26 | tumer | i use equivalent map only for stop words |
| 08:27 | paul | so equivalent eé should be enough ? |
| 08:28 | tumer | use equivalent for lowercase and uppercase separately |
| 08:28 | paul | so : |
| 08:28 | map ����e | |
| 08:28 | map ��E | |
| 08:28 | ? | |
| 08:29 | tumer | equivalent eé equivalent EE(accented) (i dont have it on keyboard) |
| 08:30 | you need reindexing after changing this file | |
| 08:30 | paul | yep, I knew for reindexing |
| 08:30 | tumer | mapping also supposed to work |
| 08:31 | i could not get it to work for character mapping but for stop words | |
| 08:31 | paul | you mean you can't search on accented char ? |
| 08:32 | tumer | i mean i can search on accented characters by using equivalent and not Map |
| 08:33 | paul | strange syntax : |
| 08:33 | equivalent å(aa) | |
| 08:33 | but equivalent eé | |
| 08:33 | ? | |
| 08:33 | are u sure it's not equivalent ée ? | |
| 08:33 | tumer | they are the same eé or ée |
| 08:35 | paul | wow ... |
| 08:35 | [paulportable zebraplugin]$ zebraidx -g iso2709 -d biblios -c /home/paul/koha.dev/dev_week/zebraplugin/etc/zebra-biblios.cfg update export/ |
|
| 08:35 | 15:35:31-17/07 zebraidx(7552) [log] update grs.marcxml.record export/test.iso2709 4044 | |
| 08:35 | zebraidx: extract.c:1305: extract_flushRecordKeys: Assertion `ch > 0' failed. | |
| 08:35 | Abandon | |
| 08:35 | I didn't had this before !!! | |
| 08:36 | tumer | i never had it either |
| 08:38 | paul | ok, zebraidx init solves it |
| 09:08 | tumer[A] | power cutoff UPS running out so I am off |
| 10:45 | paul2 | kados around ? |
| 10:46 | bye bye world. see you on thursday |
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