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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 12:07 | kados | tumer: I realized that you'll need my bib1.att and record.abs to use the stuff I committed |
| 12:08 | tumer | hi kados |
| 12:08 | kados | tumer: I'll try to commit those sometime today |
| 12:08 | tumer: oh ... hi :-) | |
| 12:08 | tumer | well i am having other problems with M:FX: |
| 12:08 | or utf8 | |
| 12:08 | kados | bummer |
| 12:08 | tumer | do we use expat or pupreperl |
| 12:09 | kados | either |
| 12:09 | neither I mean | |
| 12:09 | tumer | everything started braking |
| 12:09 | kados | you can't use them |
| 12:09 | you have to use: | |
| 12:09 | libxml2 and XML::SAX::LibXML | |
| 12:09 | it's the only one that works | |
| 12:09 | I've detailed this on the perl4lib mailing list | |
| 12:09 | let me find you a link | |
| 12:09 | tumer | i have those installed how do i tell the system to use those |
| 12:10 | kados | good question |
| 12:10 | I explained that too | |
| 12:10 | there is a file you need to edit | |
| 12:10 | let me find it | |
| 12:10 | tumer: http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.perl4lib/2369 | |
| 12:11 | tumer: everything you need to know is in that email | |
| 12:11 | tumer | i'll check that |
| 12:11 | does it correct the combining character problem | |
| 12:11 | kados | tumer: yes |
| 12:12 | tumer: with libxml2 and XML::SAX::LibXML I've not found a record that doesn't work | |
| 12:12 | tumer: from the above link: | |
| 12:12 | "BTW: you can change your default SAX parser by editing the .ini file ... | |
| 12:12 | mine is located in /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.4/XML/SAX/ParserDetails.ini" | |
| 12:12 | tumer | change it to say what |
| 12:12 | dewey | tumer: that doesn't look right |
| 12:12 | kados | (but you should read the whole email to understand what I tried) |
| 12:13 | tumer: it should be obvious when you edit the file ... just change it to XML::SAX::LibXML | |
| 12:13 | I'll find mine | |
| 12:13 | tumer | i know where mine is |
| 12:13 | here this problem with utf8 | |
| 12:14 | s/here/hear | |
| 12:14 | kados | OK ... I have this in my ParserDetails.ini: |
| 12:14 | [XML::LibXML::SAX::Parser] | |
| 12:14 | http://xml.org/sax/features/namespaces = 1 | |
| 12:14 | [XML::SAX::PurePerl] | |
| 12:14 | http://xml.org/sax/features/namespaces = 1 | |
| 12:14 | [XML::LibXML::SAX] | |
| 12:14 | http://xml.org/sax/features/namespaces = 1 | |
| 12:14 | tumer | when coming from marc8 to utf8 characters stay combined |
| 12:15 | kados | tumer: if you want to double-check your parser is LibXML, do this: |
| 12:15 | #!/usr/bin/perl | |
| 12:15 | use XML::SAX::ParserFactory; | |
| 12:15 | $parser = XML::SAX::ParserFactory->parser(); | |
| 12:15 | print $parser; | |
| 12:15 | tumer: yes ... if you update your ini file and the above script prints XML::SAX::LibXML it will fix that problem | |
| 12:15 | now I've got to run ... got an appointment in 5 minutes with an accountant (fun fun) | |
| 12:16 | tumer | ok thanks kados. i'll now go back to check that |
| 12:16 | kados | tumer: let me know if it works |
| 12:16 | I'll be back in an hour or so | |
| 12:16 | tumer | also playing with zebra alvia filter |
| 12:16 | kados | (cool) |
| 14:39 | griffjon | does anyone have experience with setting up printing in Windows for Koha? |
| 15:01 | kados | griffjon: there's not much to set up ... so long as your librarian computers are hooked up to a printer you should be able to print from them |
| 15:08 | griffjon: I'm not sure that the default templates provide a print option, but the npl ones do for sure | |
| 15:11 | griffjon | I'm using NPL templates |
| 15:12 | owen | Just ignore the print setup option in Koha's system administration. That's for UNIX printers |
| 15:13 | griffjon | yeh, I figured |
| 16:10 | kados | owen: you about? |
| 16:10 | owen | Yeah |
| 16:10 | kados | sometime today or tomorrow could you roll back the NPL addbiblio.tmpl changes? |
| 16:10 | (don't know if you know how to do that in CVS) | |
| 16:12 | owen | Actually, I worked on it today. I was just going to commit a new version based on the current default template |
| 16:12 | kados | sweet |
| 16:17 | owen | Okay, done |
| 16:18 | kados | thanks! |
| 16:19 | what is blinddetail-biblio-search.tmpl? | |
| 16:20 | hmmm | |
| 16:20 | the editor is still truncating things | |
| 16:22 | yep | |
| 16:22 | still truncating :( | |
| 16:23 | chris | bummer :( |
| 16:23 | kados | I'll try to figure it out asap though |
| 19:34 | Jo | Chris or Si |
| 19:34 | we have locked up here at levin. | |
| 19:35 | chris | koha has locked up? or everything? |
| 19:35 | Jo | in channel #hlt |
| 21:35 | thd | kados: are you there? |
| 21:37 | kados | thd: in body, not sure I'm really awake :-) |
| 21:38 | thd | :) |
| 21:38 | good to know that you are corporal | |
| 21:39 | kados: I will check to see if your body and mind have merged in a suitable state with a little time tomorrow | |
| 21:39 | kados | :-) |
| 21:39 | thd | good night kados |
| 22:14 | alkj;lkfj | |
| 22:41 | afl;ksdjlak | |
| 22:45 | akjk | |
| 02:08 | btoumi | hi all |
| 02:10 | osmoze | hello |
| 03:41 | btoumi | :nick btoumi_away |
| 03:41 | nick btoumi_away | |
| 03:45 | Comete | bonjour tlm ! |
| 03:45 | hello | |
| 03:46 | strange problem: i've set up the default grip to use the barcode field but after the import (24 hours...) i've no barcodes in the database... any idea ? | |
| 03:47 | the initial exported file is in UNIMARC format and i can see the barcodes in it with dump script | |
| 03:59 | oh it's my fault, didn't see the 995 field... | |
| 06:52 | kados | any frenchies around? |
| 06:53 | I've a quick question about itemcallnumber | |
| 06:53 | is it possible, with itemcallnumber systempreference, to specify several tag/subfield combinations that should be concatenated together? | |
| 06:53 | or can it only handle one? | |
| 06:56 | Comete | kados: oui ? |
| 06:56 | kados: je ne sais pas dsl... | |
| 06:56 | kados | ok :-) |
| 07:26 | morning tumer | |
| 07:27 | tumer | hi kados |
| 07:27 | kados | tumer: how'd it go yesterday with the libxml2 and XML::LibXML stuff? |
| 07:27 | tumer | very bad |
| 07:27 | i tried all versions | |
| 07:27 | libxml2 ver 2.2.23 | |
| 07:27 | and expat | |
| 07:28 | it gets worse | |
| 07:28 | broken koha very badly | |
| 07:28 | i had to uninstall libxml to get koha to work | |
| 07:35 | kados | you can't use expat |
| 07:36 | you _must_ use libxml2 and a compatible version of XML::LibXML | |
| 07:36 | expat and pureperl will not work at all | |
| 07:37 | compatible versions are mentioned in the XML::LibXML README | |
| 07:37 | it's critical to use compatible versions | |
| 07:37 | and you must install libxml2 _before_ installing XML::LibXML | |
| 07:37 | all of this is detailed in the email I posted yesterday | |
| 07:39 | tumer | i have done all that |
| 07:40 | i tried different versions on different servers | |
| 07:40 | all looks good first | |
| 07:40 | saving a record gets broken | |
| 07:40 | characters conversions work though | |
| 07:42 | and now the system is very unstable | |
| 07:43 | any combined character found perl crashes saying cannot decode | |
| 07:43 | i'll have to revert to a clean perl and start all over | |
| 07:45 | hdl | kados : about your question : I don't think multiple fields are managed. |
| 07:46 | tumer | this is very serious. does anyone else has this set up workin? |
| 07:46 | hdl | I should try at the end of the week. |
| 07:46 | hi tumer | |
| 07:46 | hi kados. | |
| 07:47 | tumer | hi hdl |
| 07:48 | hdl | kados : Is OPAC XHTML strict valid ? |
| 07:48 | it doesn't seem. | |
| 07:52 | kados | hdl: I think it's transitional |
| 07:53 | hdl | dtd used says it is strict though ;) |
| 07:53 | kados | hdl: tumer I have combined characters working |
| 07:53 | tumer: I have combined characters working | |
| 07:53 | hdl: I'm not sure ... | |
| 07:54 | hdl: you'd have to ask owen | |
| 07:54 | tumer | yes on the screen but can you sarch them |
| 07:54 | kados | in zebra, yes |
| 07:54 | not sure about mysql | |
| 07:54 | tumer: if you send me a set I can test | |
| 07:54 | tumer | kados:combined characters stay combined on mine on yours? |
| 07:55 | kados | tumer: send me a bunch of records (or just one) that aren't working for you |
| 07:55 | tumer: and I'll test | |
| 07:55 | tumer | kados to delete a combined ç i have to use delete twice. one for cedilla and one for c |
| 07:55 | kados | tumer: (send meaning post them on a website or something, in email, they will be manged by MIME) |
| 07:55 | tumer | kados:ok ill send |
| 09:29 | kados | morning owen |
| 09:29 | owen | Hi |
| 09:29 | dewey | niihau, owen |
| 09:29 | owen | dewey: I thought you weren't speaking to me |
| 09:29 | dewey | owen: i'm not following you... |
| 09:30 | owen | kados: how's the addbiblio mess today? |
| 09:30 | kados | owen: well, haven't looked at it yet ... just confirmed yesterday that it's still broken |
| 10:18 | owen | When someone supplies a patch, what is the process for applying it? Is it a CVS command? |
| 10:21 | kados | owen: you can just apply it with the 'patch' utility |
| 10:21 | owen: there may be a way to do it in cvs too, I'm not sure | |
| 10:21 | owen: man patch will give you the syntax | |
| 10:31 | thd | kados: my system is mostly working again with Firefox 1.504 |
| 10:32 | s/504/5.04/ | |
| 10:52 | kados | thd: yay! |
| 11:46 | owen: got a sec? | |
| 11:47 | owen | yes |
| 11:47 | kados | owen: I was comparing the google homepage to the zoomopac.liblime.com site |
| 11:47 | one thing that our simple search isn't doing well is liquid resize | |
| 11:48 | even 800x600 looks kinda bad | |
| 11:48 | owen | I thought maybe you were going to ask for a new logo for every holiday |
| 11:48 | kados | google seems to have everything left-alighed or something |
| 11:48 | hehe | |
| 11:48 | also, I was thinking that the tabs for the other search types shouldn't be so big | |
| 11:49 | I'm guessing they will hardly ever be used by patrons ... the CCL search works so well (I think) | |
| 11:49 | I like google's unobtrusive 'tab' links | |
| 11:49 | because you don't really notice them | |
| 11:49 | the main focus of the screen is the google search box | |
| 11:50 | which is what you're doing 99% of the time if you're on that page | |
| 11:51 | anyway, just some observations from a non-librarian who uses google a lot :-) | |
| 11:52 | hehe | |
| 11:56 | owen | I guess my choice would still be to take out the power and proximity search tabs and link to them...maybe from the advanced search tab. |
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