IRC log for #koha, 2006-06-15

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12:00 tumer yes but going back to old File XML they are corrected
12:04 i have to go now see you thd
02:18 btoumi hi all
02:19 paul hi btoumi
02:19 Strait hi there
02:19 dewey hi, Strait
02:19 Strait what is #koha-lobby channel?
02:23 paul how do you know all existing channels ?
02:25 Strait it was on dewey's whois
02:36 osmoze hello #koha
02:36 btoumi hi osmoze
02:44 pierrick hi #koha
02:44 btoumi hi pierrick
02:46 paul hello osmoze, & pierrick
02:49 hdl chris : congratulations again !!!!
02:49 WOW WOW WOW
02:50 hello
02:50 dewey privet, hdl
02:50 chris thanks hdl, hello all
02:50 paul kudos to chris
02:50 chris did you see this? http://www.bigballofwax.co.nz/crayon/
02:51 not yet, its only 7.51pm
02:52 paul chris, in NZ, the baby can have mum or dad lastname ?
02:52 chris yes
02:53 or you can make up a new one if you want
02:53 like barmack .. or corbarr :-)
02:53 paul really ?
02:53 dewey really are quite different
02:53 paul and can all your childrens have a different name ?
02:53 chris if you wanted to yes
02:53 paul because in Franc,e you can choose :
02:53 - daddy name
02:54 - mam name
02:54 - dad+mam
02:54 - mam+dad
02:54 and all childs must have the same, so you decide only 1nce
02:54 chris ahhh
02:55 paul and on next generation, if you have m+d or d+m name, you must pick only one for your own childrens
02:55 chris right
02:56 here you can pretty much give it whatever name you feel like
03:01 ok, you guys know more about football than me, who will win out of saudi arabia vs tunisia ?
03:01 paul I hope tunisia.
03:01 and think tunisia
03:01 chris cool
03:09 Comete hello
03:10 chris hi comete
03:17 Comete hi chris
03:17 what's the weather today in NZ ?
03:18 chris it was quite cold today, night time now
03:18 the high today was 13c
03:21 hows the weather in saint lo? raining? :-)
03:21 Comete chris: it's the same here but that's better, it was very hot these last days...
03:22 chris: and yes it's raining today :)
03:23 chris :)
03:25 paul as we say about bretagne : the weather is sunny many times a day ;-)
03:27 Strait here it's sunny many times a year
03:27 if we're lucky
03:27 .D
03:27 (oops i lost an eye)
03:31 chris heh
03:31 strait you are in finland right?
03:32 paul chris : about "crayon", do you know that in french it means "pencil" ?
03:33 chris ohh i didnt know that, in english a crayon is something you draw with too
03:33 children use them
03:33 they come in lots of different colours
03:34 paul however, it's a nice baby. I think I recognize daddy face
03:34 :-D
03:34 s/nice/pretty/
03:34 (cute is correct too maybe ?)
03:34 Comete chris: like in french we call them "color crayons"
03:35 chris yep cute is correct too
03:35 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Crayons.jpg
03:37 Comete chris: this (on the picture) is called "pastels" in french
03:37 paul wow, Comete is a computer scientist + an Artist ;-)
03:37 chris :-)
03:37 Comete lol
03:48 chris anyone ever looked at http://www.open-xchange.org/   ?
03:52 Comete is it possible to modify the default grid ?
03:53 paul chris : no, hdl & me use http://www.dotproject.net/ (since yesterday ;-) )
03:53 Comete: yes, of course, why would it be impossible ?
03:55 Comete chris: i use www.horde.org
03:57 paul: excuse me stupid question :)
03:57 dewey Comete: The server at bofh.engr.wisc.edu (port 666) appears to be down.
03:57 paul no stupid question ;-)
03:57 chris i just saw open xchange today .. thought it looked interesting
03:57 paul only stupid dewey !
03:58 chris heh
03:58 paul chris: a software requiring servlet is always something i'm afraid by...
03:58 chris yeah
04:14 Comete paul: est-ce que les sous-champs de sous-champs sont implicitement tous actifs ?
04:15 paul non
04:15 Comete paul: ah et comment fait-on pour les activer ?
04:15 paul: je ne vois que les sous-champs
04:16 hdl Comete ? sous champs de sous champs ???
04:17 Comete hdl: oui dans la grille par defaut, j'ai besoin d'activer les sous-champs de 105/$a par exemple
04:18 hdl Comete : Tu as envie d'active le sou-champ $a du champs 105 c'est bien cela.
04:18 Comete : Ou je me trompe ?
04:18 Comete hdl: non le sous-champs a du sous-champ a$ du champ 105
04:18 :)
04:20 hdl Comete : http://www.ifla.org/VI/3/p1996-1/uni1.htm#105
04:20 Comete hdl: d'après le référenciel UNIMARC il y a des sous-champs de sous-champs: http://bibliotheque.bgp-fr.com/unimarc_abrege.pdf
04:20 hdl Comete :Il me semble que tu peux les remplir via l'unimarc_plugin105
04:20 paul ah, tu parles des champs codés.
04:20 donc, la réponse est oui : si tu actives les 105$a, tu actives tout le 105$a
04:20 Comete paul: peut-être :) je découvre...
04:21 paul donc tous les sous sous champs !
04:21 Comete paul: ouf !
04:21 paul c'est juste que les bibliothécaires n'emploient pas le terme de sous sous champ ;-)
04:22 Comete paul: parce que ces gentils bibliothécaires m'ont confié la tache de définir la grille par défaut... d'après leur annotations sur le référentiel
04:22 sympa les gars...
04:22 j'avais que ca à foutre en plus !
04:22 :)
04:22 merci en tout cas paul et hdl
04:23 paul t'as qu'à dire que c'est tro pcompliqué pour toi, que c'est pas ton métier, et que tu connais des gens bien dont c'est le métier et la compétence
04:23 :-D
04:23 Comete oui oui mais mon chef veut qu'on fasse un essai de nous-même d'abord ;)
04:24 paul pfff... si l'essai représente 95% de l'objectif, c'est plus un essai !
04:25 ce genre de détail, faut le voir après l'essai !
04:25 enfin, c'est mon avis...
04:25 and get a <error 100002 from zoom : encoding failed>
07:03 Strait hmm
07:04 are there any plans to improve the templates?
07:04 paul what kind of improvements ?
07:04 Strait visual ;)
07:04 paul yes
07:04 Strait they look a bit unfinished at the moment
07:04 paul everything is rewritten for Koha 3.0
07:04 Strait ok, i see
07:04 will we lose the work done with the translations?
07:04 paul (even if there is no release date for Koha 3.0)
07:07 Strait we have a member in our localization team that has been planning a facelift for 2.2 templates
07:08 but it seems he's too busy with his dayjob at the moment
07:08 paul if you used .po for translations, you won't lose everything.
07:08 Strait that is certainly a good thing
07:08 paul however, probably something like 50% of translations strings will change, at least a little
07:09 Strait well it's still 50% that we can keep
07:09 fair amount
07:09 have the new templates already been created or planned, or is that still in the future?
07:12 if you think of the current helptexts, then updating them is probably a good idea
07:12 paul in fact, we have created a PROG template, for developpers, that is based on NPL templates with every graphic enhancement removed
07:13 you mean online help ?
07:13 Strait not the one in help menu
07:14 rather the short descriptions on what different things in the user interface actually do
07:15 like "Type in the box and press the enter key" in Members
07:17 paul those one will or have been updated.
07:17 and the online help is now on the wiki, we are working on a script to put them in templates.
07:17 thus, everybody will be able to improve onlinehelp !
07:18 Strait that's excellent :)
07:18 wiki is probably good for other documentation too
07:21 is thera actually a need for the online help to be "local"?
07:21 could "Help" take you directly to the online wiki?
07:22 paul that will probably an option, but not the only one
07:22 as some libraries :
07:22 1- dont have a DSL access to internet
07:22 2- have a slow access
07:22 Strait ah, yes, of course
07:22 you are absolutely right
07:22 paul so we will have both local online, and wiki accessible in 1 clic, for updated doc
07:23 Strait yep
07:24 paul .
08:51 heya kados
08:52 (or is it an auto reconnect ?)
09:04 btoumi :paul bonjour
09:18 paul bon, en fait, si tout le monde utilisait le chat sur la ligne publique, ca éviterait les conversations redondantes.
09:18 genre btoumi pose une question privée à paul qui est au tel, donc il n'a pas de réponse
09:18 du coup il écrità hdl, qui n'est pas sûr de la réponse
09:18 et qui demande à paul en privé aussi !!!
09:19 donc, hdl & btoumi => rappliquez ici !
09:19 btoumi :=(
09:19 hdl :D
09:19 btoumi c pas la fote a hdl c moi
09:20 donc c moi qu'il faut gronder
09:20 pas hdl
09:21 lol
09:21 paul ouaip, et paul n'a qu'à pas répondre au téléphone :-D
09:21 btoumi non perso j'irais pas jusque la
09:21 ;=)
09:24 paul donc on répète la question et on trouve la répnose
09:24 ensemble
09:25 btoumi je la fais en anglais?
09:25 :=)
09:25 paul seems there is no english ppl now, so we can do it in french.
09:26 btoumi j'ai utilise la syntaxe suivante $template->param("add"=>1) if ($op eq 'add');
09:26 pour savoir dans le template si on est en ajout ou en modif
09:26 ma question :
09:27 est ce que ca reste en accord avec tous le remamienent qui est fait dans le code actuellemnt
09:28 ?
09:28 paul yep, je dirai plutôt oui
09:28 btoumi ok voila merci
09:31 bonne nouvelle en tous cas j'ai presque termine de mettre en place les devloppement effctue par ouest provence
09:32 sur le module lecteur
10:08 owen paul: any clues as to why the MARC editor was failing in Firefox 1.0.7?
10:08 paul owen: probably some DOM change.
10:08 of a buggy javascript in 1.0.7
10:28 hdl kados ?
10:28 dewey kados is becoming a true Perl Monger...
10:29 owen dewey, did kados tell you to say that? :)
10:29 dewey owen: sorry...
10:29 hdl Nope I think paul did so ;)
10:30 owen : have you ever used acquisitions with serials ?
10:30 owen No
10:33 osmoze bye all
10:59 btoumi bye for all

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