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Time | Nick | Message |
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15:48 | chris | kados: u about? |
15:54 | rosa | morning Chris, and Congratulations to you and Laurel |
15:54 | chris | thanks rosa |
15:54 | rosa | How is Laurel feeling? |
15:55 | chris | pretty good, no real morning sickness, she was pretty tired a few weeks back ... but feeling pretty normal again now |
15:55 | rosa | excellent |
22:56 | kados | chris: am now |
22:57 | chris: if briefly | |
22:57 | chris | heya, did you mean to commit that last commit to the rel_2_2 |
22:57 | ? | |
22:57 | it looked like it should be a dev_week one | |
22:57 | kados | which one? |
22:57 | chris | Subject: [Koha-cvs] koha/z3950 processz3950queue [rel_2_2] |
22:58 | kados | yea... |
22:58 | well it's debatable | |
22:58 | chris | will it work in 2.2? |
22:58 | kados | if you upgrade to ZOOM, yes |
22:58 | thing is | |
22:58 | chris | right |
22:58 | kados | if someone installs Net::Z3950 now |
22:58 | for a new install of 2.2.6 | |
22:58 | chris | they get zoom eh? |
22:58 | kados | processz3950queue won't work |
22:58 | yea | |
22:59 | chris | ok, we should just get the version checked |
22:59 | kados | yep |
22:59 | chris | by the upgrader |
22:59 | kados | didn't get around to that |
22:59 | chris | ill take a look at that if i get a chance |
22:59 | kados | cool, thanks |
22:59 | interestingly | |
22:59 | for dev-week | |
23:00 | we can basically use all the stuff I wrote for the opac | |
23:00 | for the Z3950 client | |
23:00 | chris | sweet |
23:00 | kados | I just need to get the async stuff working |
23:00 | chris | oh quick question |
23:00 | kados | sure |
23:00 | chris | in 2.2.5 |
23:00 | can a borrower renew from the opac? | |
23:00 | kados | yep |
23:00 | chris | sweet ta |
23:00 | kados | can change their password too |
23:01 | ok ... I'm gonna get some sleep | |
23:01 | chris: you might be interested in this: http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]raprotocolsupport | |
00:17 | thd | kados: when you wake up: the record editor is still crawling, but less crawling than previously |
00:49 | Strait | is it possible to truncate words is catalogue search? |
00:59 | found it... | |
00:59 | % | |
01:02 | and also * seems to work | |
01:02 | i tried it with 3 letters the first time | |
01:02 | and it requires at least 4 | |
01:49 | Comete | hello |
02:00 | paul | hello world ! |
02:07 | btoumi | hi all |
02:07 | hi dewey | |
02:08 | :dewey hi | |
02:21 | question for all | |
02:22 | if u have in code a call to css what we can do? | |
02:22 | delete line or comment it | |
02:51 | paul | btoumi: which code & which line are u speaking of ? |
02:52 | btoumi | in garantor_search.tmpl |
02:52 | <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="<!-- TMPL_VAR name="themelang" -->/includes/common-style.css"> | |
02:53 | paul | (on est entre francais je suppose, on peut le faire en VF) |
02:56 | btoumi | yes :=) |
02:56 | en fait g cette ligne de code dans guarantor_search.tmpl | |
02:56 | ct juste pour savoir si je la faisais sautre | |
02:56 | sauter | |
02:57 | paul | ben non, c'est important quand même pour charger une feuille de style. |
02:58 | normalement, c'est complété par d'autres tmpl_if et tmpl_var (préférences systèmes) | |
02:58 | regarde dans le reste du code, tu devrais trouver ton bonheur | |
03:00 | btoumi | c un template que g cree |
03:03 | et g pas de condition c juste pour la presentation du popup | |
03:04 | paul | alors regarde dans un autre template, et copie/colle |
03:04 | sinon, commite comme ca, qqn corrigera bien ! | |
03:04 | btoumi | c deja sur le cvs |
03:05 | je vais voir avec d'autre template | |
03:05 | dans moremember.tmpl aucun appel au css | |
03:06 | pareil pour categorie.tmpl | |
03:06 | paul | mmm... c'est parce que c'est dans les include ! |
03:09 | btoumi | exact |
03:09 | c dans le doc-head-close.inc | |
03:09 | paul | yep |
03:09 | btoumi | c nouveau |
03:09 | paul | donc, tu virres dans le guarantor_search ;-) |
03:10 | (bonjour Comete ) | |
03:10 | btoumi | bonjour comete |
03:10 | ok ca marche merci | |
03:11 | par contre faut que je fasse l'include au doc-head-open et doc-head.close.inc | |
03:11 | paul | yep |
03:13 | btoumi | ok c bon a savoir car je vais faire la meme chose pour borrowers-details |
06:42 | Comete | bonjour paul |
06:43 | bonjour tlm | |
06:43 | hello all | |
07:30 | Strait | OPAC in finnish now :) |
07:31 | we also have a first version of intranet in finnish in existance | |
07:31 | to be verified and corrected tomorrow | |
07:32 | for finnish MARC21 we will have to wait for the national library to complete the translation | |
07:33 | we've been working with them, so Koha will be the first librarysystem in existance to have MARC21 in finnish :) | |
07:34 | plus we've gained some friends in two significant library schools in finland | |
07:34 | all in all it's looking pretty good for us | |
07:42 | paul | Strait: hello |
07:42 | dewey | hola, paul |
07:42 | paul | did you use .po system to translate Koha to finnish ? |
07:42 | Strait | yep, .po's |
07:43 | why so? | |
07:43 | paul | it's on 2.2.5 ? |
07:43 | Strait | the intranet was i believe 2.2.4 |
07:43 | opac is 2.2.5 | |
07:43 | paul | ok, so it will be quite easy to update it for 2.2.6 |
07:43 | Strait | good :) |
07:43 | we've been having a few laughs with out intranet translation | |
07:44 | finnish is an odd language so translations from english aren't always easy | |
07:44 | we have no words like "from" and "to" | |
07:44 | instead they're expressed by addinf suffixes to words | |
07:45 | "with our intranet translation" | |
07:45 | was what i wanted to say | |
07:46 | we also have to break the statistical module somehow | |
07:47 | our legislation doesn't allow us to save members reading histories and such | |
07:50 | paul | Strait: it's the same in France. |
07:50 | our legislation says : | |
07:50 | - when the user request it and no more than 1 year after end of subscription for patron informations | |
07:51 | - no more than 4 months after the book has been returned for issues informations. | |
07:51 | Strait | according to ours we can only save the name and contanct information of the last borrower |
07:52 | and that information may only be found from the point of view of the item, not borrowers | |
07:52 | how do you deal with it in france with koha? | |
07:55 | i believe that the one year policy applies for patron information in finland too | |
07:56 | although it doesn't really concern us since practically every finn has a library card in their hometown and most have a few others in other towns too | |
07:57 | and library memberships are rarely canceled here | |
07:57 | they're more or less lifetime deals :D | |
07:58 | since it's completely free for everyone, there is really no reason to cancel them | |
07:59 | in fact there should be somekind on national librarycard scheme so you wouldn't have to carry a card for every library you use | |
07:59 | i have 8 librarycards at the moment | |
08:00 | that can't really be said to be handy | |
08:38 | paul | hdl around ? |
08:41 | btoumi | :paul what is the file search.pm in misc directory |
08:41 | ? | |
08:42 | paul | sorry btoumi, but a power failure make me miss some things in irc |
08:42 | i don't know what you're speaking about | |
08:42 | btoumi | i have fund a file named search.pl in misc directory of head |
08:43 | search.pm sorry | |
08:43 | paul | mmm... i think it's a useless thing. |
08:44 | btoumi | ok i'm ok |
09:24 | thd | kados: are you there? |
09:29 | kados | thd: I am extremely busy today :( |
09:29 | thd: got some catching up to do from last week | |
09:30 | thd: plus, I've got a meeting in Northern Ohio with a library tomorrow | |
09:30 | thd | kados: the record editor is still buggy |
09:31 | kados | thd: even with paul's new commits? |
09:31 | thd | kados: Had you added them to Afognak? |
09:32 | kados | thd: I haven't had a chance |
09:33 | thd | kados: let me know when you have a chance and I will test again |
09:34 | kados | thd: ok, maybe later today ... after the madness stops :-) |
09:34 | thd: what was the bug you found? | |
09:34 | thd: withthe current version? | |
09:34 | thd | kados: thanks for form access to copy number and the individual call number parts |
09:35 | kados | ?? |
09:36 | thd | kados: I found with a newly created record even that more than 2 subfields would be divided between multiple fields after saving. |
09:37 | kados: I think that the editor may not be recognising that it is in UTF-8 | |
09:38 | kados | thd: it _must_ have an 'a' in position 9 |
09:38 | thd: otherwise, I think it will do some strange things | |
09:39 | thd | kados: When I opened a UTF-8 leader with an a in position 9 the leader plugin initial reported it as MARC8. |
09:39 | s/initial/first/ | |
09:40 | kados: something is not recognising the value actually in the leader. | |
09:41 | kados | thd: not sure I understand |
09:42 | thd | kados: the leader was a valid UTF-8 leader but the leader plugin reported otherwise the first time I opened the leader in the plugin. |
09:42 | kados | interesting |
09:42 | are you 100% sure it was a valid UTF-8 leader? | |
09:43 | thd | kados: I did not test that aspect repeatedly but I did notice it. |
09:43 | kados:99% | |
09:45 | kados | if you can find a record that reporduces the problem I'd be happy to take a look at it |
09:46 | thd | kados: How Alaska Got Its Flag |
09:46 | kados: I input that record completely manually | |
09:48 | kados: 600s should look like .. | |
09:48 | 650 0 $a Flags $z Alaska $v Juvenile literature. | |
09:48 | 600 10 $a Benson, Benny $v Juvenile literature. | |
09:48 | 651 0 $a Alaska $x History $v Juvenile literature. | |
09:48 | 651 0 $a Alaska $v Biography $v Juvenile literature. | |
09:51 | kados | hmmm |
09:51 | I'm not sure MARCdetail.pl preserves record order | |
09:51 | in the display | |
09:52 | also, there is no way to create a 650 before a 600 in the current editor :-) | |
09:52 | thd | kados: In the case of the repeated $v, repeating duplicates the value originally in the subfield or in the last repeated subfield even after subsequent editing of the value. That was not the worst problem of course. |
09:53 | kados | thd: yes, I believe paul fixed that, but I haven't checked |
09:53 | paul | kados: & thd : yes, it's fixed ;-) |
09:53 | kados | paul++ |
09:53 | paul: when is the release of 2.2.6 scheduled? | |
09:54 | paul | i hope this week for a RC, installed in one of my libraries |
09:54 | kados | paul: i have recently discovered bugs in acquisitions (need to test if they exist in the default or just npl templates) |
09:54 | paul | but IPT has found a new bug in MARC editor, that i'm investigating |
09:55 | thd | kados: I was not concerned with the field order although you can see that the record should not have a personal name subject as its primary subject. |
09:55 | btoumi | bye all |
09:55 | thd | good bye btoumi |
09:55 | btoumi | bye thd |
09:57 | thd | kados: the real problems were finding subfields moved to different fields after saving. |
09:59 | kados: When I attempted to show you this problem in France, you had noticed that the particular example did not have a UTF-8 leader. | |
10:00 | kados: I suspect there were two few cases of non-UTF-8 leaders for that to have been the problem every time I had observed it. | |
10:01 | kados: I think the system is failing to recognise that the leader is Unicode even when it clearly is set correctly. | |
10:02 | kados: This Alaskan flag book does not even have anything other than ASCII characters. | |
10:20 | kados: were you unaware of having changed the items editor template to provide editor access to the subfields that I had requested? | |
10:21 | kados: you had written ?? after I thanked you. | |
10:27 | kados | ahh ... |
10:27 | dewey | i guess ahh ... is that how 'snapshots' are done? |
10:28 | kados | dewey: forget ahh |
10:28 | dewey | kados, I didn't have anything matching ahh |
10:28 | kados | dewey: forget ahh ... |
10:28 | dewey | kados, I didn't have anything matching ahh |
10:28 | kados | heh |
10:28 | thd: I was unaware of changing the items editor template, maybe Ryan did it | |
10:29 | thd | thank you Ryan, just what I had requested |
10:31 | kados: now you can have respectable looking items in addition to the ones already generated by a script. | |
10:35 | kados: there was actually one items subfield that I had requested which is still not included. The one for source of acquisition is still not there so I had been adding that to public note, lacking private note. | |
10:53 | kados | owen: I've got some info from ID on improving the default 'simple search' |
10:53 | owen: it'll take me a day or so to implement it | |
10:54 | owen: soon as that's done, i think we can announce it to the staff | |
10:56 | paul | bye bye world, see you tomorrow morning |
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