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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 15:05 | kados | ho logbot |
| 15:05 | i say we wait a few more minutes for the EUs to show up | |
| 15:05 | chris | yep |
| 15:05 | kados | Tumer's not going to make it tonight |
| 15:05 | chris | righto |
| 15:05 | kados | and he requested we move it to any day other than monday |
| 15:06 | chris | righto |
| 15:06 | kados | so I'm available pretty much any day at 20:00 ... |
| 15:06 | chris: what days are you avaialble? | |
| 15:06 | thd | I favour Tuesday at the moment |
| 15:07 | kados | hi hdl |
| 15:07 | hdl | hi |
| 15:07 | kados | we were discussing a meeting time for next week |
| 15:07 | hdl: would tuesday at 20:00 GMT work for you? | |
| 15:07 | chris | most days will work for me |
| 15:08 | kados | tumer can't make it on mondays |
| 15:08 | chris: cool | |
| 15:08 | hdl | tuesday is a bad day for me and paul |
| 15:08 | kados | hdl: what day is good for you two? |
| 15:08 | hdl | Monday |
| 15:09 | Wednesday | |
| 15:09 | Thursday three out of four. | |
| 15:10 | But tuesday, unless it begins at 23h30, which is late in France. | |
| 15:10 | kados | ok ... |
| 15:11 | hdl: will paul and pierrick make it tonight? | |
| 15:11 | thd | I favour Wednesday over Thursday |
| 15:12 | hdl | paul : no. |
| 15:12 | kados | ok |
| 15:12 | well lets get started then | |
| 15:12 | hdl | But he would be there on Wednesday. |
| 15:12 | kados | first is news and announcements |
| 15:13 | if you haven't seen it already, I re-write the ZOOM searching in dev-week | |
| 15:13 | http://zoomopac.liblime.com/ | |
| 15:13 | which features new and exciting search options never before seen in Koha :-) | |
| 15:13 | hehe | |
| 15:14 | thd | As I was just telling Kados I created something remarkably similar just before the weekend |
| 15:14 | kados | it makes adding search features very easy |
| 15:14 | as all you need to do is add the earch attributes to the template | |
| 15:14 | ie, no code to edit | |
| 15:14 | chris | excellent |
| 15:14 | kados | the code can handle any options you hand it |
| 15:15 | so long as they're valid :) | |
| 15:15 | thd | kados: Is this all JavaScript? |
| 15:15 | kados | thd: only the fancy tab switching stuff |
| 15:15 | it's all in standard CGI forms | |
| 15:16 | anyone else have news? | |
| 15:16 | thd | yes |
| 15:16 | hdl | Is javascript for switching stuff ? |
| 15:17 | owen | Javascript shows/hides the different search tabs |
| 15:17 | hdl | I mean is it necesssary ? |
| 15:17 | kados | hdl: it's completely unnecessary |
| 15:17 | owen | At least it will be when we fix that bug in the script ;) |
| 15:17 | thd | At the end of last week, I seem to have determined that BnF uses repeatable $3s in both INTERMARC and UNIMARC. |
| 15:17 | kados | owen: what bug? |
| 15:17 | owen | the search_type variable I mentioned earlier. |
| 15:17 | kados | ahh |
| 15:18 | owen | That makes it possible to switch tabs if javascript is turned off |
| 15:18 | kados | right |
| 15:18 | well you can create a search page with just HTML | |
| 15:18 | it's just a simple form | |
| 15:18 | no need to use an official template even | |
| 15:19 | thd: how does the $3 affect us? | |
| 15:19 | thd | BnF is not following the UNIMARC standard strictly for non-repeatability of $3 but then they do not need to create an endlessly large authority file for RAMEAU. |
| 15:20 | kados | I see |
| 15:20 | thd | kados: This means that using RAMEAU in France is the same problem exactly as using LCSH and other systems in MARC 21. |
| 15:21 | kados | right |
| 15:21 | thd | kaos: well almost |
| 15:21 | MARC 21 still has subdivisions with differing names as a differing authority type | |
| 15:22 | kados | I was hoping to discuss versioning issues with Koha but since paul's not here |
| 15:22 | I'm not sure we should :( | |
| 15:23 | thd: I suspect the detailed MARC discussion should wait until after the meeting :-) | |
| 15:23 | thd | no problem |
| 15:24 | kados | anyone have anything to discuss? |
| 15:24 | chris | hmm not really |
| 15:24 | johnb | Kyle has written a test program to simulate circulation |
| 15:25 | kados | yea, I took a look at it, that's great |
| 15:25 | chris | ahh yes i had a quick look at that, it looks like a good start |
| 15:25 | kados | johnb: have you guys been doing load tests with it? |
| 15:25 | chris | i was meaning to have a go at getting it to use issuebook |
| 15:25 | johnb | Yes |
| 15:25 | yes, but we still have a problem with issues (checkouts) | |
| 15:26 | kados | what's the prob? |
| 15:27 | johnb | You will have to touch base with Kyle, he explains it to me and my eyes glaze over |
| 15:28 | hdl | johnb: is this test program specifically designed in PERL or is it with an IDE ? |
| 15:28 | like selenium ? | |
| 15:28 | chris | in perl hdl |
| 15:28 | 2 secs | |
| 15:29 | cm | kados: it's in perl. |
| 15:29 | kados | cm: how's your backup script coming? |
| 15:29 | cm | it's coming, but I've gotten sidetracked... |
| 15:29 | kados | sure |
| 15:29 | cm | I got stuck on ssh authentication, otherwise it's pretty much done. |
| 15:29 | kados | cool |
| 15:29 | I usually use scp with a ssh-agent | |
| 15:30 | you can also do passwordless public key | |
| 15:30 | chris | keys |
| 15:30 | yeah | |
| 15:30 | but ssh-agent and a key with a passphrase is better | |
| 15:30 | cm | yeah, that's what I was trying to use (keys). |
| 15:30 | kados | both are pretty secure though |
| 15:31 | cm | I wanted it to be as automated as possible--set it up and that's it. |
| 15:31 | kados | yep |
| 15:31 | with ssh-agent you need to restart the agend and re-identify after a reboot | |
| 15:31 | so the keys are a little easier in that way | |
| 15:32 | OK, if there's nothing else, I'll close the meeting so we can all get back to work :-) | |
| 15:33 | chris | oh i remember |
| 15:34 | hdl | When is the next meeting ? |
| 15:34 | chris | tomorrow we should be committing a bunch of stuff to HEAD |
| 15:34 | hdl | Is it on Wednesday ? |
| 15:34 | chris | all the fixes/changes we have made to acquisitions .. plus the serials work |
| 15:34 | kados | hdl: yes, Wednesday at GMT 20:00 |
| 15:34 | hdl: maybe this week even? | |
| 15:34 | hdl: or should it be next week? | |
| 15:34 | chris: wohooo! | |
| 15:34 | chris: that's exciting | |
| 15:34 | hdl | hdl: it could be next Wednesday. |
| 15:34 | For paul too. | |
| 15:35 | this week. | |
| 15:35 | kados | hdl: ok ... I'll post a mail to koha-devel |
| 15:36 | heh | |
| 15:37 | chris | getting up on cold mornings ... not fun |
| 17:02 | thd | kados: let me know when you are back |
| 18:03 | kados | salut Paul, comment sont vous ? |
| 18:21 | slef | s/sont/allez/ |
| 18:21 | I think | |
| 19:52 | thd | kados: are you there? |
| 01:55 | osmoze | hello |
| 02:14 | chris | hi osmoze |
| 02:15 | paul | hi osmoze & chris |
| 02:15 | chris | hi paul |
| 02:15 | osmoze | hi chris & paul |
| 02:16 | paul | wow : soccer : brazil - New zealand : 4 - 0 !!! |
| 02:17 | chris | yes |
| 02:17 | it took nearly 25 mins for brazil to score too :) | |
| 02:17 | i thought it would be 20-0 :-) | |
| 02:19 | paul | it's soccer chris, not rugby :-D |
| 02:20 | chris | yeah but its brazil vs nz .. who couldnt even qualify for the world cup :) |
| 02:23 | lots of rugby on at the moment | |
| 02:24 | nz maori in the churchill cup, junior all blacks in the pacific 5 nations, and all blacks vs ireland this weekend | |
| 02:24 | plus the soccer | |
| 02:24 | which is all at 3am and other times in the morning | |
| 02:24 | i think ill be watching replays :) | |
| 02:26 | paul: tomorrow mason, bob and I are going to be spending the day merging our fixes for acquisitions into head, plus the serials work, so should be a lot of commits | |
| 02:26 | paul | yep, I saw what you said to hdl yesterday |
| 02:26 | good news. | |
| 02:26 | they will be on head isn't it ? | |
| 02:27 | chris | yes in head |
| 02:28 | paul | chris, a quick question : did russel write the script to copy online help from wiki to cvs ? |
| 02:29 | chris | nope |
| 02:29 | i was going to talk to pierrick about that | |
| 02:29 | as he knows the backend of doku wiki | |
| 02:29 | so he can tell me how i can query mysql to fish the data out easily | |
| 03:06 | btoumi | hi everybody |
| 03:07 | ToinS | hi btoumi |
| 03:07 | btoumi | hi toins |
| 03:08 | paul | hello SAN-OP ! |
| 03:08 | nice to read you | |
| 03:08 | btoumi | hi paul |
| 03:08 | t y | |
| 03:09 | i continu with borrowers module | |
| 03:09 | ;=) | |
| 03:12 | :paul we are ok to say that the enreollement period is in day now ? | |
| 03:13 | paul | not in days, but in months ! |
| 03:13 | btoumi | lol |
| 03:13 | yes in month | |
| 03:13 | i modify the tmpl | |
| 03:15 | chris | in seconds :-) |
| 03:15 | btoumi | in milli seconds |
| 03:15 | chris | :) |
| 03:16 | btoumi | how are u chris |
| 03:16 | ? | |
| 03:17 | chris | doing good thanks, how are you? |
| 03:18 | btoumi | the same, very good!! |
| 03:18 | ahe u seen my commit on friday | |
| 03:20 | paul: it's ok i modify categorie.tmpl | |
| 03:21 | chris | yes looks good, seems to have fixed a lot of bugs |
| 03:28 | btoumi | i hope |
| 03:28 | ;=) | |
| 03:28 | Strait | hello everyone |
| 03:28 | chris | hi strait |
| 03:28 | Strait | i have a little problem... |
| 03:29 | i'm working at my university at the department of informatics | |
| 03:29 | chris | cool |
| 03:30 | Strait | we're starting to use koha for teaching cataloging and to give the students somekind of idea how librarysystems work and how to use them |
| 03:30 | chris | ahh ok |
| 03:30 | Strait | so now i'm in the process of installing it |
| 03:30 | chris | right |
| 03:31 | version 2.2.5 ? | |
| 03:31 | Strait | the problem is that we do not have a dedicated server for it and i don't have root access to the server |
| 03:31 | it's 2.2.5 yes | |
| 03:31 | chris | ahh that makes it hard |
| 03:32 | Strait | so i figured :) |
| 03:32 | i'm stuck with yaz and net:z3950 | |
| 03:33 | (+:) | |
| 03:33 | btoumi | hi Strait |
| 03:33 | chris | ah yep, thats often tricky |
| 03:33 | Strait | yaz is currently installed under my account under /yaz directory |
| 03:34 | chris | for 2.2.5 net::z3950 isnt strictly needed, its only useful if you want to use the z3950 client |
| 03:34 | Strait | and i've created symbolic links from ~/yaz/bin to ~/bin |
| 03:34 | i know, but i think we're gonna want it anyway | |
| 03:34 | chris | right |
| 03:35 | Strait | i'll know that for sure tomorrow, but i would see it quite important |
| 03:35 | chris | yeah, it is useful |
| 03:36 | so the perl Makefile.PL for net::z3950 is looking for yaz-config right? | |
| 03:36 | Strait | yep, and that's in path curretly |
| 03:36 | chris | so far so good then :) |
| 03:37 | whats it getting stuck on? | |
| 03:37 | Strait | trying to install net::z3950 through CPAN gives me a whole bunch of errors |
| 03:37 | firs of all it complains that I don't have Event.pm in @INC | |
| 03:38 | chris | hmm right |
| 03:38 | Strait | which is true, since Event.pm is under my account in ~/perl/lib/perl5/... |
| 03:38 | and that definitely is not in @INC | |
| 03:38 | chris | right |
| 03:38 | you could perhaps do | |
| 03:39 | perl -I ~/perl/lib/perl5/ -MCPAN .... | |
| 03:39 | i dont know if that will work or not, but worth a try :) | |
| 03:39 | Strait | ok, I'll try that :) |
| 03:40 | it want's to re-install Evet | |
| 03:40 | Event | |
| 03:41 | chris | hmmm |
| 03:41 | Strait | and after re-installation same errors |
| 03:41 | chris | darn |
| 03:42 | Strait | Warning: prerequisite Event 0.77 not found. |
| 03:42 | Event-1.06/ | |
| 03:42 | does it want 0.77 and just that | |
| 03:43 | ? | |
| 03:43 | chris | shouldnt be ... |
| 03:43 | the machine that you are installing on, its running linux? | |
| 03:43 | Strait | RedHat |
| 03:43 | ES4 I think | |
| 03:43 | chris | ahh right |
| 03:44 | Strait | Red Hat Enterprise Linux AS release 4 |
| 03:44 | chris | so my suggestion to get the sysadmin to do apt-get install libnet-z3950-perl is no good then :) |
| 03:44 | Strait | probably not :D |
| 03:44 | chris | its been a while since ive installed it by hand im trying to remember |
| 03:45 | ill try it on my laptop now | |
| 03:45 | Strait | do you think it would help if I had him install yaz toolkit? |
| 03:45 | chris | i think there might even be an rpm for the net::z3950 module |
| 03:45 | if there was and he could install that and the yaz toolkit that would be good | |
| 03:46 | Strait | the problem then is that it's harder for us to keep the system up to date |
| 03:46 | chris | true, you would need the sysadmin |
| 03:46 | hmmm | |
| 03:46 | Strait | although i'm not sure how big a problem that really is |
| 03:52 | chris | i think someone was asking about this on the mailing list a while back |
| 04:01 | hmm cant find it | |
| 04:01 | Strait | i've installed koha on my home system as root and it was very smooth |
| 04:02 | it's slackware system | |
| 04:02 | chris | yeah its pretty easy if you have superuser rights |
| 04:04 | ok on my laptop | |
| 04:04 | it asked for event too | |
| 04:04 | and its trying to install event.pm now | |
| 04:05 | Strait | it will work, but z39.50 won't be able to find it is my guess |
| 04:05 | chris | yeah |
| 04:06 | thats what happened | |
| 04:06 | Strait | do you have yaz installed for the user account or as root? |
| 04:06 | chris | i installed yaz as root |
| 04:06 | so its stopping at the Event.pm check | |
| 04:07 | i tried it without yaz | |
| 04:07 | and it stopped before Event.pm | |
| 04:07 | saying it couldnt find yaz-config | |
| 04:07 | so i apt-get install libyaz-dev | |
| 04:08 | and now it stops at the Event.pm check | |
| 04:08 | Strait | ok, so the yaz being installed as non-root obviously isn't the problem here |
| 04:08 | although it will remain to be seen whether z39.50 will actually work when the system is up | |
| 04:08 | chris | yep |
| 04:09 | but for the install, yeah its getting past the yaz bit | |
| 04:09 | and getting stuck at event | |
| 04:09 | Strait | hmm |
| 04:09 | chris | interesting |
| 04:09 | if i install Event.pm as root | |
| 04:10 | then net::z3950 as non-root works fine | |
| 04:10 | so it doesnt have to be 0.77 | |
| 04:10 | it just seems to not find it | |
| 04:12 | perl -I ~/perl/lib/perl5/ -e 'use Event;' | |
| 04:13 | that do anything? | |
| 04:14 | Strait | let's try |
| 04:15 | Can't locate Event.pm in @INC | |
| 04:15 | and then a list of directories currently in @INC | |
| 04:15 | chris | ah ha |
| 04:17 | so where is Event.pm ? | |
| 04:18 | Strait | it's under /home/koha/perl/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5/i386-linux-thread-multi |
| 04:19 | chris | hmm |
| 04:19 | so perl -I /home/koha/perl/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5/i386-linux-thread-multi -e 'use Event;' | |
| 04:19 | Strait | directory /home/koha/perl/lib/perl5/ is actually in @INC |
| 04:19 | chris | yeah that -I will make it be |
| 04:20 | Strait | the above command says nothing |
| 04:20 | so obviously it works | |
| 04:20 | chris | cool |
| 04:21 | so lets try | |
| 04:21 | so perl -I /home/koha/perl/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5/i386-linux-thread-multi -MCPAN -e '/home/koha/perl/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5/i386-linux-thread-mu | |
| 04:21 | lti | |
| 04:21 | 09:19PM|<chris> hmm | |
| 04:21 | 09:19PM|<chris> so perl -I | |
| 04:21 | /home/koha/perl/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5/i386-linux-thread-mul | |
| 04:21 | ti -e 'use Event;' | |
| 04:21 | 09:19PM|<Strait> directory /home/koha/perl/lib/perl5/ is actually in @INC | |
| 04:22 | 09:19PM|<chris> yeah that -I will make it be | |
| 04:22 | 09:20PM|<Strait> the above command says nothing | |
| 04:22 | 09:20PM|<Strait> so obviously it works | |
| 04:22 | lti | |
| 04:22 | 09:19PM|<chris> hmm | |
| 04:22 | 09:19PM|<chris> so perl -I | |
| 04:22 | /home/koha/perl/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5/i386-linux-thread-mul | |
| 04:22 | ti -e 'use Event;' | |
| 04:22 | 09:19PM|<Strait> directory /home/koha/perl/lib/perl5/ is actually in @INC | |
| 04:22 | 09:19PM|<chris> yeah that -I will make it be | |
| 04:22 | 09:20PM|<Strait> the above command says nothing | |
| 04:22 | 09:20PM|<Strait> so obviously it works | |
| 04:22 | doh | |
| 04:22 | sorry about that | |
| 04:22 | my mouse has gone mental | |
| 04:22 | brb | |
| 04:22 | Strait | :D |
| 04:22 | perl -I /home/koha/... -MCPAN -e 'install Net::Z3950' says Net::Z3950 is up to date. | |
| 04:23 | how weird is that then :D | |
| 04:23 | chris | heh |
| 04:23 | sometimes this touchpad just wigs out and starts pasting when i move the cursor | |
| 04:23 | its very annoying | |
| 04:24 | Strait | i can imagine :D |
| 04:24 | chris | so it looks like its installed ok then |
| 04:24 | Strait | and that in turn means that i should be able to run koha's installer |
| 04:24 | let's try | |
| 04:25 | chris | u might need the -I bit |
| 04:25 | so it looks in the right place | |
| 04:25 | and doesnt tell you they arent installed | |
| 04:26 | Strait | yep, i think it will need it |
| 04:26 | and then i need the prefix and etcdir also | |
| 04:27 | chris | yeah i think so |
| 04:28 | Strait | perl -MCPAN -e 'install "HTML::Template"' |
| 04:28 | perl -MCPAN -e 'install "MARC::Record"' | |
| 04:28 | perl -MCPAN -e 'install "Mail::Sendmail"' | |
| 04:28 | perl -MCPAN -e 'install "You will need PDF::API2 for barcode generator"' | |
| 04:28 | those are actually presend counting out PDF::API2 | |
| 04:28 | but i'll install them again | |
| 04:29 | chris | :) |
| 04:31 | Strait | still complains about the same modules |
| 04:31 | bugger | |
| 04:32 | if i leave the -I part out it only complains about Net::Z3950 | |
| 04:32 | chris | well thats frustrating |
| 04:32 | Strait | if I put the -I part there it doesn't complain about Z3950 but it complains about all the others :D |
| 04:36 | chris | well im afraid im gonna have to head off .. its 9.35pm and i have to wash the dishes before i get in trouble |
| 04:36 | :) | |
| 04:36 | Strait | ok, thanks for your time :) |
| 04:36 | chris | good luck strait, I hope some of the europeans can help out |
| 04:36 | Strait | thanks :) |
| 06:14 | slef | yo Strait |
| 06:15 | Strait | hi there |
| 06:15 | slef | can you summarise the problem? |
| 06:15 | Strait | sure thing |
| 06:16 | i'm trying to install koha on a non-root account and have a problem with z39.50 support | |
| 06:16 | i have yaz installed as a regular user under my home directory and as far as i can see it seems to be working | |
| 06:17 | slef | so what's the actual error you get and how do you get it? |
| 06:17 | Strait | i have the perl-modules required by koha under ~/perl |
| 06:17 | slef | sorry, I lagged (unplugged wrong line) |
| 06:18 | Strait | install Net::Z3950 says it's unable to find Event.pm in @INC |
| 06:18 | Event is installed from CPAN | |
| 06:19 | slef | What distribution? |
| 06:19 | never mind, you don't have root | |
| 06:20 | Strait | Redhat Enterprise AS4 |
| 06:20 | slef | is event in a dir in @INC? |
| 06:20 | Strait | it would be preferable if we could get this working without having ton install anything as root |
| 06:20 | no | |
| 06:21 | i've tried adding it with -I with interesting results | |
| 06:21 | in that case i get Z3950 installed but Koha installer still won't find it | |
| 06:21 | slef | I'll read that off scrollback |
| 06:23 | Strait | if i use -I with koha installer it finds Net::Z3950 but none of the other modules :D |
| 06:23 | slef | try |
| 06:23 | export PERL5LIB=kohaperlmoduledir:eventpmdir | |
| 06:23 | and then run the installer | |
| 06:24 | replacing the ...dir with the dir details, of course | |
| 06:25 | Strait | The Net::Z3950 module is missing. |
| 06:27 | slef | ok, so where's Net/Z3950.pm then? |
| 06:28 | hello tumer | |
| 06:28 | tumer | hi slef |
| 06:29 | Strait | hmm, nowhere |
| 06:29 | odd I just installed it and it reported Ok | |
| 06:30 | directory /home/koha/perl/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5/Net where is should be is still empty | |
| 06:30 | btoumi | hi tumer |
| 06:30 | tumer | hi btoumi |
| 06:31 | btoumi | how are u? |
| 06:31 | tumer | very busy |
| 06:31 | btoumi | ok good work? |
| 06:31 | ok good work | |
| 06:31 | tumer | getting along |
| 06:31 | Strait | and if I try to re-install it from cpan it's said to be "up to date" |
| 06:32 | slef | yes, I have a Net/Z3950.pm |
| 06:32 | it would seem that the CPAN shell is stoned then :-/ | |
| 06:32 | tumer | you seem to be very busy committing stuff as well |
| 06:33 | Strait | pwd |
| 06:33 | btoumi | me? |
| 06:33 | Strait | sorry, wrong window :D |
| 06:33 | slef | Try mv /home/koha/.cpan /home/koha/stoned.cpan # and re-running? |
| 06:33 | Strait | haa! /home/koha/perl/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5/i386-linux-thread-multi/Net |
| 06:33 | slef | /home/mjr/deb |
| 06:33 | Strait | there it is |
| 06:33 | slef | add /home/koha/perl/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5/i386-linux-thread-multi to PERL5LIB and retry? |
| 06:34 | Strait | it's there with :eventmpdir suffix |
| 06:35 | slef | so echo $PERL5LIB returns what? |
| 06:35 | Strait | can i just add :z3550mpdir suffix to that? |
| 06:35 | slef | can try... try anything |
| 06:35 | Strait | this: /home/koha/perl/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5/i386-linux-thread-multi:eventmpdir |
| 06:35 | slef | note what works and what doesn't |
| 06:35 | eventmpdir should be the dir that your Event.pm is in | |
| 06:36 | not literally the text eventmpdir | |
| 06:36 | PERL5LIB is sort of like PATH if you know that | |
| 06:36 | Strait | that's where it is |
| 06:37 | yep, i know | |
| 06:38 | slef | this should work |
| 06:40 | Strait | You are missing some Perl modules required by Koha. |
| 06:40 | perl -MCPAN -e 'install "HTML::Template"' | |
| 06:40 | perl -MCPAN -e 'install "MARC::Record"' | |
| 06:40 | perl -MCPAN -e 'install "Mail::Sendmail"' | |
| 06:40 | :D | |
| 06:40 | it finds the Z3950 and Event though... :D | |
| 06:41 | slef | are thoe modulesin the kohadir or the site_perl dir? |
| 06:42 | Strait | site_perl |
| 06:43 | under 'koha' user account's | |
| 06:43 | slef | Mail/Sendmail.pm is where? |
| 06:44 | Strait | here it is: /home/koha/perl/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5/Mail |
| 06:44 | slef | is /home/koha/perl/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5 in PERL5LIB? if not, add it and retry... |
| 06:45 | Strait | it's not, i'll try that |
| 06:46 | all required perl modules are installed! | |
| 06:46 | great | |
| 06:46 | :) | |
| 06:46 | thanks a million | |
| 06:47 | (can you say that in english?) | |
| 06:48 | slef | (yes) |
| 06:49 | no problem... you'll need to edit the PERL5LIB in the generated koha-httpd.conf to include the current setting | |
| 06:49 | I don't think the installer does that by itself (arguably, it ought to) | |
| 06:49 | Strait | ok |
| 06:49 | that one's up to the administrator as I don't have the access to apaches conf | |
| 06:50 | i'll be sure to tell him that | |
| 07:03 | slef | the koha-httpd.conf is generated by the installer |
| 07:03 | the administrator needs to copy it into httpd.conf or Include it | |
| 07:08 | Strait | so it seems |
| 07:09 | i don't think that the default config will work for us, i'll have to discuss with the administrator on how it will be done | |
| 07:21 | slef | ok, I'd best get back to work |
| 07:27 | Comete | hello/bonjour |
| 07:27 | btoumi | hi/salut |
| 07:27 | Strait | hello |
| 07:32 | ToinS | bonjour/hello/GutenTag |
| 07:40 | Strait | next problem: i don't have root access to mysql |
| 07:40 | time to call it a day at this point I think | |
| 07:40 | it's almost four o'clock here | |
| 07:42 | btoumi | can u explain |
| 07:42 | ? | |
| 07:42 | perhaps i can help u | |
| 07:42 | Strait | i'm trying to install koha 2.2.5 without root priviledges |
| 07:42 | btoumi | ok |
| 07:43 | Strait | without root proviledges to the system itself and to mysql |
| 07:44 | it'll be for my university | |
| 07:44 | or rather for my department that is | |
| 07:44 | (department of information studies) | |
| 07:44 | btoumi | do u create a mysql user? |
| 07:45 | Strait | i have readily created mysql user |
| 07:46 | from our database administrator | |
| 07:46 | btoumi | do u use phpmyadmin? |
| 07:46 | Strait | no, i'm using koha installer :D |
| 07:47 | btoumi | and u have a error message for database creation in koha installer |
| 07:47 | Strait | yep |
| 07:47 | it wants the password for mysql root | |
| 07:48 | btoumi | do u have the message |
| 07:48 | Strait | which i naturally don't have |
| 07:48 | btoumi | ok |
| 07:48 | Strait | so i edited Install.pm to use my mysql user instead of root account |
| 07:50 | at line 1796 there is: $mysqluser = 'root'; | |
| 07:50 | which i changed to: $mysqluser = 'koha'; | |
| 07:50 | (which is my mysql user) | |
| 07:50 | btoumi | ok i see |
| 07:51 | Strait | no luck :( |
| 07:51 | doesn't work | |
| 07:51 | btoumi | i never do that |
| 07:51 | Strait | ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'koha'@'localhost' (using password: YES) |
| 07:51 | 256ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'koha'@'localhost' (using password: YES) | |
| 07:51 | error: 'Access denied for user 'koha'@'localhost' (using password: YES)' | |
| 07:51 | error: 'Access denied for user 'kohaadmin'@'localhost' (using password: YES)' | |
| 07:51 | btoumi | i think i can't help u no more |
| 07:52 | i have ever see this message | |
| 07:52 | can u use phpmyadmin | |
| 07:52 | ? | |
| 07:52 | Strait | i don't think so...? |
| 07:53 | btoumi | ok i think u must wait for paul help |
| 07:53 | Strait | it's not installed on the server |
| 07:53 | btoumi | ok |
| 07:53 | Strait | yep |
| 07:53 | btoumi | sorry |
| 07:54 | Strait | hey, thanks for trying :) |
| 07:54 | i'll try again tomorrow | |
| 07:55 | now i'm heading home => | |
| 07:55 | btoumi | perhaps i have an idea tommorow :=) |
| 08:16 | Comete | the borrowers table has only one field for the street address but i need to put the appartment number too, where can i put it ? |
| 08:16 | btoumi | i give u the answer |
| 08:16 | just one minute | |
| 08:17 | in address2 | |
| 08:18 | it's the address complement | |
| 08:18 | Comete | btoumi: sorry i don't see any address2 field in the table... are you sure ? |
| 08:18 | btoumi | u works in 225 |
| 08:19 | Comete | 225 ? |
| 08:19 | btoumi | koha 2.2.5 |
| 08:19 | u work on koha 2.2.5 | |
| 08:19 | Comete | btoumi: yes |
| 08:20 | btoumi | ok that why u don't find this field :=) |
| 08:20 | Comete | btoumi: isn't it the last stable release ? |
| 08:21 | btoumi | yes the koha 2.2.5 is the last stable released |
| 08:21 | u are french comete isn't it? | |
| 08:22 | Comete | btoumi: yes it is |
| 08:22 | btoumi | :comete ok in french alors |
| 08:22 | Comete | :) |
| 08:22 | btoumi: ce champ est dans la 3.0 ? | |
| 08:23 | btoumi | je travaille en fait sur la 3.0 |
| 08:23 | oui c ca | |
| 08:23 | Comete | zut |
| 08:23 | btoumi | j'ai refait tous le module lecteur |
| 08:23 | Comete | le problème c'est que je peux pas tronquer mes addresses, sinon je vais me faire appeler Jules |
| 08:24 | btoumi | lol |
| 08:24 | oui je comprend | |
| 08:24 | Comete | la 3.0 n'est pas encore utilisable en prod j'imagine |
| 08:25 | faut que je trouve une solution alternative... | |
| 08:28 | paul | heu... non, la 3.0 n'est pas utilisable en prod... |
| 08:28 | btoumi: je suis de retour ;-) | |
| 08:29 | Comete | bonjour paul |
| 08:35 | kados | hi #koha |
| 08:36 | Comete | hi kados |
| 08:36 | btoumi | hi kaodos |
| 08:37 | paul | hi kados |
| 08:40 | ToinS | hi kados |
| 08:41 | hdl | hi kados |
| 08:48 | kados | wow, France is taking over #koha today :-) |
| 08:48 | btoumi | :=) |
| 09:18 | Comete | est-il possible d'éditer des lettres de rappel avec Koha, y-a-til des éditions toutes prêtes ? |
| 09:37 | tumer | hi owen |
| 09:37 | owen | Hi tumer |
| 09:37 | kados | hi tumer |
| 09:37 | tumer | hi kados |
| 09:37 | kados | tumer: i committe the .js you needed |
| 09:38 | tumer: did you get it working? | |
| 09:38 | tumer | i saw it and got it working |
| 09:38 | kados | cool |
| 09:38 | tumer | but to adapt it to template will be real time consuming |
| 09:39 | i am working on it though | |
| 09:40 | owen | Whatcha guys talking about? |
| 09:41 | kados | owen: the new opac-zoomsearch.pl/tmpl |
| 09:41 | tumer | kados: its got some bugs as well I cannot get the PQF to work in simple search |
| 09:41 | kados | tumer: ahh, yes, I didn't fix that in CVS |
| 09:41 | tumer: hang on | |
| 09:42 | tumer | aalso change CQL2RPN to CQL |
| 09:42 | kados | tumer: well ... |
| 09:42 | tumer: what i actually need to do | |
| 09:42 | tumer: is get the RPN | |
| 09:42 | tumer: so we can pass it on to the next screen | |
| 09:43 | tumer: so that's why I chose CQL2RPN in that case | |
| 09:43 | tumer | its the same thing |
| 09:44 | for CQL2RPN you have to tell zoom which pqf.properties you are using | |
| 09:44 | for CQL the server uses the one we described when starting the server | |
| 09:45 | i thought anyway | |
| 09:46 | kados: make any sense to you???? | |
| 09:47 | kados | yes, I see what you mean |
| 09:47 | but, we can just use the C4::Context dir to store the pqf.properties | |
| 09:47 | so we don't need to hardcode it like I did before | |
| 09:47 | tumer | yes but why?? |
| 09:48 | context will have pathto/pqf.properties | |
| 09:48 | which will have to be modified by each installation | |
| 09:48 | kados | are you asking why the Zebra server needs us to tell it again? |
| 09:48 | ie, is it a bug in Zebra? | |
| 09:48 | tumer | the Zebra server knows where this file is |
| 09:48 | kados | or are you asking me why we should use CQL2RPN |
| 09:48 | but ZOOM doesn't | |
| 09:49 | I think this CQL2RPN is handled within ZOOM | |
| 09:49 | tumer | no they designed it that way |
| 09:49 | kados | it makes sense |
| 09:49 | because you might want one of your clients to use a different properties file | |
| 09:49 | tumer | CQL2RPN you have to describe where your pqf file is (may be u are using a differnet one etc.) |
| 09:51 | kados | I understand |
| 09:52 | but the problem is, if we're going to be offering 'resort' and 'search within' on the next page (results page) | |
| 09:52 | we need to store the query in PQF | |
| 09:52 | not in CQL | |
| 09:52 | tumer | yes but we have a flag saying cql |
| 09:53 | so we reconstruct everything from cql or wherever its coming from | |
| 09:56 | kados | ok, but that means we have two APIs |
| 09:56 | to do everything | |
| 09:56 | and I'm not sure if CQL supports all the same stuff PQF supports | |
| 09:56 | (like re-ordering) | |
| 09:57 | ok ... the way I've done it now | |
| 09:57 | the PQF always gets passed around as: | |
| 09:57 | $pqf_sort_by $pqf_prox_ops $pqf_bool_ops $pqf_query | |
| 09:57 | CQL2RPN turns our CQL query into $pqf_query | |
| 09:58 | so we still pass it to the next page as: | |
| 09:58 | $pqf_sort_by $pqf_prox_ops $pqf_bool_ops $pqf_query | |
| 09:58 | tumer | let me see if am mistaken:CQL2RPN does not turn it into PQF query (well dows but internally as an object) |
| 09:58 | kados | ahh ... in that case, we may have a problem |
| 09:59 | maybe we can pull it out of the object somewhere | |
| 09:59 | tumer | we have to check this!!! |
| 10:00 | kados | yep |
| 10:00 | I'm going to be working with Owen in a couple hours (visiting his library) | |
| 10:00 | tumer | we may get away with it |
| 10:00 | kados | it would be ideal |
| 10:00 | I hope my slipshod code doesn't distract you from my overal method for ZOOM searching | |
| 10:01 | because I think the method is brilliant, even if the actual code isnt' :-) | |
| 10:02 | tumer | any cql stays cql any pqf stays pqf resort is pqf always so i think it can stay that way and we always make sure we are doing it as pqf |
| 10:03 | well the code is a little difficult for me to follow but i will crack it | |
| 10:04 | kados | the prox operator makes things difficult |
| 10:05 | if it wasn't for that operator, it'd be much simpler | |
| 10:05 | and probably there's a better way to handle it than i've done | |
| 10:05 | tumer | i did not exercise with proximity |
| 10:05 | kados | it's pretty slick |
| 10:07 | tumer | its like we need a week training for koha developers (and i thought i cracked it) on how to use zebra search |
| 10:08 | all those ops that added do you think they all work | |
| 10:09 | like the one first in field we learned is not supported | |
| 10:10 | kados | I haven't fully tested all of them |
| 10:10 | that's one of the things I hope to do with owen today | |
| 10:11 | but there's a helpful page on ID's doc site | |
| 10:11 | on protocol support | |
| 10:11 | http://www.indexdata.dk/zebra/[…]tocol-support.tkl | |
| 10:11 | it describes in some detail what is supported | |
| 10:11 | tumer | for proximity yes |
| 10:12 | for relations i am not sure > = < =< etc | |
| 10:12 | kados | relations is interesting |
| 10:13 | tumer | does it actually work |
| 10:13 | kados | the < > = does |
| 10:13 | it requires a 'number' index | |
| 10:13 | i dont' think phonetic or stem are supported | |
| 10:13 | but I haven't tested | |
| 10:14 | 'relevance' does work | |
| 10:14 | tumer | yes thats what i thought numbers only |
| 10:14 | do we have any numbers? | |
| 10:15 | yes we have biblionumber which may be useful with | |
| 10:15 | export biblionumber> and biblionumber< | |
| 10:17 | well this monolgue shows that i have to work more on this zebra thing |
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