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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 12:01 | kados | owen: ok, should be good to go |
| 12:02 | cql search seems to be working | |
| 12:04 | owen: for power search | |
| 12:04 | owen | What did you search for in the cql search? |
| 12:04 | kados | cat |
| 12:04 | it won't accept invalid cql queries | |
| 12:04 | like | |
| 12:04 | cat in the hat | |
| 12:04 | :-) | |
| 12:04 | owen | ?! |
| 12:05 | kados | don't worry |
| 12:05 | "cat in the hat" works | |
| 12:05 | there's no error checking yet | |
| 12:05 | but any valid CQL query should work | |
| 12:05 | obviously before we go live we'll add error checking :-) | |
| 12:05 | make sense? | |
| 12:06 | owen | We're not asking the patrons to learn CQL, right? |
| 12:06 | kados | well ... |
| 12:06 | no, in that way that google doesn't ask people to learn their search syntax | |
| 12:06 | :-) | |
| 12:07 | we just need to pick some default behavoirus | |
| 12:07 | like ... | |
| 12:07 | for a query like 'cat in the hat' | |
| 12:07 | should it be translated into: | |
| 12:07 | "cat in the hat" | |
| 12:07 | or | |
| 12:07 | cat and in and the and hat | |
| 12:07 | ? | |
| 12:08 | owen | Google does the latter, right, but with relevance ranking added in. |
| 12:09 | kados | yea, google does the and thing |
| 12:09 | and sorts by it's own relevance ranking | |
| 12:10 | we've actually got lots of ranking options | |
| 12:10 | I'll add some more in before the day is up | |
| 12:11 | so, next priority is getting the power search to work on the opac, eh? :-) | |
| 12:11 | and I'm assuming 'simple search' should be the default on page load | |
| 12:12 | owen | I was just thinking about that |
| 12:12 | Actually I'm picturing the opac home page being the same as it is now, with the cql search the default | |
| 12:13 | Then if you click 'advanced search' you get the opac-catalogue-home screen with the advanced search highlighted. | |
| 12:13 | kados | yea, that sounds good |
| 12:13 | so we just won't link to opac-main.pl or opac-search.pl | |
| 12:14 | opac-catalogue-home will be the default page to load | |
| 12:14 | owen | No, what I was thinking was that the default opac home page would still be opac-main.pl |
| 12:14 | And the 'advanced search' link would lead to opac-catalogue-home | |
| 12:15 | 'catalogue home page' might lead to opac-catalogue-home.pl?search_type=simple | |
| 12:15 | kados | hmmm |
| 12:16 | why not just have one search page? | |
| 12:16 | owen | Because the home page of the opac does a lot of other things too, like offer a login form, link to patron services, etc. |
| 12:17 | kados | can't we do all of that on catalogue-home.pl? |
| 12:17 | owen | Not with that monster form there |
| 12:17 | kados | hmm, ok ... |
| 12:18 | we can easily do that at some point | |
| 12:18 | soon | |
| 12:18 | but for tomorrow, lets have everything on one page | |
| 12:18 | owen | for tomorrow, shouldn't we just pull up opac-catalogue-home.pl directly? |
| 12:20 | kados | yea |
| 12:21 | owen | Does the database have call numbers? |
| 12:21 | 'classification' isn't pulling them up. | |
| 12:22 | kados | classification where? |
| 12:22 | in the cql search? | |
| 12:23 | owen | sorry, in the search results page |
| 12:24 | kados | ahh |
| 12:24 | it's supposed to pull them from itemcallnumber | |
| 12:24 | which isn't populated | |
| 12:24 | it's on my list for the re-index | |
| 12:24 | so ... | |
| 12:24 | where are we at | |
| 12:24 | dewey | we are saying we prefer "addXxx" to "add_xxx" and "addxxx". |
| 12:25 | kados | 1. power search doesn't work (template prob) |
| 12:25 | 2. need to move ISBN search to advanced and power | |
| 12:26 | 3. need drop-downs for the search options in the power search | |
| 12:26 | owen | :P |
| 12:27 | kados | 4. need to re-index with classification / call numbers working |
| 12:27 | owen | Any idea what's going on with the power search? |
| 12:27 | kados | 5. need a sort by date |
| 12:27 | no, haven't looked yet | |
| 12:28 | owen | Looks like the cql search doesn't produce a search string variable for the results screen to display |
| 12:29 | kados | 6. fix searchdesc for CQL search |
| 12:29 | 7. remove dictionary searches (use syspref) | |
| 12:30 | 8. remove number search (right?) | |
| 12:30 | what else ... | |
| 12:30 | we need to test :-) | |
| 12:31 | test the spellchecker | |
| 12:32 | 'lerning' brings up results with 'learning' in a non-phrase search | |
| 12:33 | 9. add series title searching | |
| 12:34 | owen: unless you have strong objections, I'm gonna take a lunch break | |
| 12:34 | owen: things seem to be progressing well | |
| 12:34 | owen | Sounds good. I need some lunch too. |
| 12:35 | kados | cool, I'll be back by about 2:15 or so |
| 12:53 | looking at power search now | |
| 13:15 | owen: I messed something up :-) | |
| 13:16 | owen | uh oh |
| 13:16 | kados | owen: for some reason the boolean operators got shifted wrong |
| 13:16 | owen | Heh.... yeah I made a change to the script that affected where those things should appear. That was a couple days ago |
| 13:16 | kados | instead of : |
| 13:17 | AND | |
| 13:17 | AND | |
| 13:17 | Search | |
| 13:17 | it should be: | |
| 13:17 | Search | |
| 13:17 | AND | |
| 13:17 | AND | |
| 13:17 | right? | |
| 13:17 | ahh | |
| 13:32 | hmmm | |
| 13:33 | I'll brb | |
| 14:11 | looks like field_value isn't getting populated | |
| 14:15 | owen: you working on power search? | |
| 14:16 | owen | I just made a couple of template changes that I thought might help, but I don't see any change |
| 14:17 | kados | k ... let me try :-) |
| 14:26 | found one thing | |
| 14:26 | there wasn't a zoom | |
| 14:26 | zoom needs to be set to 1 | |
| 14:27 | owen | Did you add it? |
| 14:33 | kados | yea |
| 14:34 | so | |
| 14:34 | this is what the query looks like on the intranet: | |
| 14:34 | key: remote_URL, value: http://zoomkoha.liblime.com/cg[…]ber_to_display=10. | |
| 14:34 | here's what the opac looks like: | |
| 14:34 | key: remote_URL, value: http://zoomopac.liblime.com/cg[…]display=20;order=. | |
| 14:34 | what are those '=all;=all;=all'? | |
| 14:35 | should be field_nameX (where X is 1-3) | |
| 14:35 | I think | |
| 14:35 | maybe that's our problem | |
| 14:35 | owen | I see something |
| 14:36 | A missing name= value in one of the form fields. | |
| 14:36 | kados | go ahead and fix it |
| 14:36 | I dont' see it :-) | |
| 14:37 | but that's probably it | |
| 14:37 | still not working ...hmmm | |
| 14:38 | looks like zoom is off again | |
| 14:38 | owen | Whoops... my fault. |
| 14:38 | kados | you need: |
| 14:38 | owen | zoom = 1, right? |
| 14:39 | kados | <input type="hidden" name="zoom" value="1" /> |
| 14:39 | in with the hidden fields | |
| 14:39 | yay | |
| 14:39 | working | |
| 14:39 | _and_ it looks nice :-) | |
| 14:39 | good combo :-) | |
| 14:40 | owen | limit by format doesn't seem to be working |
| 14:40 | kados | ok |
| 14:41 | owen | Hmmm... Actually, I don't know what's going on... |
| 14:41 | "star wars" + format=DVD works, but "star wars" + format = videocassette doesn't. | |
| 14:41 | kados | heh |
| 14:41 | owen | (in advanced search) |
| 14:41 | kados | does it work on the intranet? |
| 14:43 | hmmm, no | |
| 14:43 | and old koha gives us results | |
| 14:43 | hmmm | |
| 14:44 | the query before zebra gets it: | |
| 14:44 | @and @attr 1=1016 @attr 4=1 @attr 3=1 @attr 6=3 @attr 5=1 @attr 2=102 "star wars" @attr 1=4 "AC" | |
| 14:44 | lemme try that in yaz-client | |
| 14:45 | no hits | |
| 14:47 | weird | |
| 14:48 | this works: | |
| 14:48 | @and @attr 1=1016 @attr 4=6 @attr 5=103 @attr 2=102 "star wars" @attr 1=4 "AV" | |
| 14:49 | @and @attr 1=1016 @attr 4=6 @attr 5=103 @attr 2=102 "star wars" @attr 1=4 "DVD" | |
| 14:50 | the second one returns hits | |
| 14:50 | the first one doesn't | |
| 14:50 | maybe an index problem? | |
| 14:51 | search on 'a' and AV | |
| 14:51 | it only returns three results | |
| 14:51 | ahh ... | |
| 14:51 | that must be it | |
| 14:51 | @attr 1=4 "DVD" | |
| 14:51 | wrong attr assigned to itemtype | |
| 14:52 | lemme see what it should be | |
| 14:52 | owen | Yeah, I was going to say: none of those three results is a video! |
| 14:52 | kados | (1=4 is title) |
| 14:53 | owen | Ah... hence the AV-8B harriers title |
| 14:55 | kados | yea |
| 14:55 | I've got to fix the indexer config and re-index | |
| 14:55 | I'll try to fix classification while I'm at it | |
| 14:59 | ok, lets try that | |
| 14:59 | snack time | |
| 14:59 | owen | Does that mean searching is broken until it's done? |
| 14:59 | kados | yea, should be about 7 minutes |
| 15:01 | the fallback might work | |
| 15:01 | but it's just searching the old koha tables | |
| 15:05 | not quite working | |
| 15:05 | but at least attempting to work ;-) | |
| 15:05 | the failover system is pretty nifty w | |
| 15:05 | once you get it going | |
| 15:14 | owen | Did you just try to update the opacnav system preference? |
| 15:14 | kados | yea, it seems like it's getting truncated |
| 15:14 | must be the wrong size in this one | |
| 15:14 | owen | Yes. I noticed that yesterday |
| 15:15 | kados | have to fix that eventually |
| 15:15 | almost done indexing | |
| 15:16 | guess it's a bit longer than 7 minutes :-) | |
| 15:17 | darn, forgot to add series title | |
| 15:20 | ok, the index is re-built, FFR it takes about 20 minutes to rebuild | |
| 15:22 | owen | Is the limit-by-branch feature broken because of the lack of holdings? Did I already ask that? |
| 15:22 | kados | now, gotta figure out what Material Type needs to be mapped to in bib1 |
| 15:22 | no, holdings are in there | |
| 15:22 | for example: | |
| 15:23 | http://zoomopac.liblime.com/cg[…]tail.pl?bib=34716 | |
| 15:23 | owen | Oh, I see... I shouldn't have picked 'starts with' ;) |
| 15:23 | kados | yea, that's gonna suprise people |
| 15:23 | owen | What's with the square brackets in the search results screen? "Chauncey[]" |
| 15:23 | kados | but it's what they asked for |
| 15:24 | itemcallnumber goes in there | |
| 15:24 | but NPL's holdings don't have that | |
| 15:24 | it's a change I need to make tonight | |
| 15:24 | because it'll take a few hours to add it to all the MARC records | |
| 15:25 | owen | I take it the "[]" is part of a string that's built by the script? |
| 15:27 | kados | yea, probably |
| 15:27 | of course we can change it | |
| 15:28 | owen | If we have a column that will display itemcallnumber, that's enough for NPL. We don't have different itemcallnumber values for different copies at different branches |
| 15:28 | That's the only reason I could think of that you'd want itemcallnumber displayed in the holdings column | |
| 15:30 | kados | owen: try the format search now |
| 15:30 | heh, looks like it's working | |
| 15:30 | I _do_ understand it :-) | |
| 15:30 | owen | Yeah |
| 15:33 | kados | ok, found a bug |
| 15:33 | search on: | |
| 15:33 | anywhere african normal keyword | |
| 15:33 | and anywhere history normal keyword | |
| 15:33 | not anywhere american normal keyword | |
| 15:33 | it pulls up stuff with american | |
| 15:33 | but if you go: | |
| 15:34 | anywhere african normal keyword | |
| 15:34 | oops | |
| 15:34 | go: | |
| 15:34 | anywhere african history normal keyword | |
| 15:34 | not anywhere american normal keyword | |
| 15:34 | it works fine | |
| 15:35 | intranet seems to work | |
| 15:40 | owen | I see what's wrong, I think |
| 15:40 | Because I moved where the "and" dropdown menu appears, the form field number got changed from what it should be. | |
| 15:40 | The second 'and' should be associated with the first row (#1) | |
| 15:41 | kados | ahh |
| 15:42 | can you fix it? | |
| 15:42 | owen | I much prefer it this way... Would that be complicated to change in the script? |
| 15:42 | Otherwise I have to move that field back up to the end of the line above | |
| 15:43 | I like that the "AND/OR/NOT" is at the beginning of the "phrase" | |
| 15:43 | kados | I prefer it your way too |
| 15:43 | let me see if I can fix it | |
| 15:45 | this cql is really neat | |
| 15:45 | african not americ* | |
| 15:51 | stemming doesn't seem to be working in the CQL | |
| 15:52 | ok, I'll fix this andor thing | |
| 15:52 | sec | |
| 15:54 | owen: why would it get changed based on where it is? | |
| 15:55 | owen | Because the form field names are appended with a variable that increments with the loop: name="op<!-- TMPL_VAR name="num" -->" |
| 15:56 | kados | y'know ... |
| 15:56 | we could do some really slick stuff here | |
| 15:56 | for instance | |
| 15:56 | it'd be simple to be able to read something like: | |
| 15:57 | published before 1960 | |
| 15:57 | and translate it internally | |
| 15:58 | ok, back to business :-) | |
| 15:58 | wouldn't they be in the same loop? | |
| 15:58 | yea :-) | |
| 15:58 | owen: nothing to stop us working on it while we're there :-) | |
| 15:59 | owen | Except I have to break out into small groups and discuss job descriptions :P |
| 15:59 | kados | ahh :( |
| 16:00 | owen | Anyway... The script is told to look for 'op1' and 'op2' |
| 16:00 | But now they end up getting sent as 'op2' and 'op3' | |
| 16:00 | kados | ok |
| 16:01 | so we just increment $num | |
| 16:01 | for op | |
| 16:01 | I'll try that | |
| 16:02 | hmmm | |
| 16:02 | I bet num is used in more places than just op | |
| 16:04 | I still don't quite get it | |
| 16:04 | ahh, now I do | |
| 16:04 | ok, I need to change catalogsearch It hink | |
| 16:18 | hmmm, this gets complicated | |
| 16:18 | I guess I can change all instances of op1 to op2 | |
| 16:18 | and op2 to op3 | |
| 16:18 | right? | |
| 16:18 | owen | Except that sometimes it's used in a loop... |
| 16:19 | if ($search{"op$i"} eq 'or') { | |
| 16:19 | See line 59 | |
| 16:19 | kados | right |
| 16:19 | any way we can move it without changing the code? | |
| 16:20 | owen | I don't think so |
| 16:21 | kados | what if you just put a line break |
| 16:21 | in | |
| 16:21 | heh | |
| 16:21 | I guess it's a table | |
| 16:21 | hmmm | |
| 16:21 | owen | I really fought that that damn form, and in the end the table worked the best. |
| 16:22 | kados | hey, I'm fine with tables |
| 16:22 | that's tabular data for the most part | |
| 16:22 | besides, this is a proof-of-concept | |
| 16:23 | well ... a beta really | |
| 16:23 | chris and I are going to release 2.3.0 this weekend | |
| 16:23 | based on this codebase | |
| 16:23 | my goal is for a 2.4 release by ALA (June 22) | |
| 16:23 | anyway ... | |
| 16:27 | owen: so can we move it back to the right-hand side ? | |
| 16:27 | owen | Hang on , I'm trying something |
| 16:27 | kados | owen: I prefer it on the left too, but I'm afraid we should focus on real bufixing |
| 16:28 | ok | |
| 16:31 | owen | Okay, never mind. I moved it back. |
| 16:31 | kados | we'll for sure fix it |
| 16:31 | before we go live | |
| 16:32 | I just don't wanna mess too much with something that's working one day before the demo ;-) | |
| 16:32 | owen | Agreed. |
| 16:36 | kados | owen: template's borking some extra data |
| 16:36 | owen | eh? |
| 16:37 | kados | huh it's gone now |
| 16:41 | ok ... where are we at? | |
| 16:41 | owen | Still not working as expected, I think |
| 16:41 | kados | yea, the boolean's a bit strange |
| 16:42 | lets get some examples | |
| 16:42 | and compare to the intranet | |
| 16:42 | see if it's just the template or the whole system | |
| 16:42 | owen | I tried Title starts with 'birds' and got a bunch of results that didn't start with 'birds' |
| 16:43 | kados | on the first page? |
| 16:43 | I don't | |
| 16:43 | owen | The intranet seems to work though... >:( |
| 16:43 | kados | ahh ... |
| 16:43 | if you do 'normal' 'starts with' it doesn't work | |
| 16:43 | if you do 'phrase' 'starts with' it does | |
| 16:44 | lemme try the intranet | |
| 16:44 | same behavior | |
| 16:44 | owen | Weird |
| 16:44 | kados | so ... 'normal' isn't playing nice with 'starts with' |
| 16:45 | @attr 1=4 @attr 4=1 @attr 3=1 @attr 6=3 @attr 5=1 @attr 2=102 "birds" | |
| 16:45 | vs. | |
| 16:45 | @attr 1=4 @attr 4=6 @attr 5=103 "birds" | |
| 16:46 | second one doesn't work | |
| 16:46 | first one does | |
| 16:47 | russ | bob / walter - i am off to the convention centre |
| 16:47 | so no breaking rosters pretty please | |
| 16:47 | kados | consult your handy dandy bib1 attribute set reference: |
| 16:47 | http://www.loc.gov/z3950/agency/defns/bib1.html | |
| 16:47 | russ: wrong channel? | |
| 16:47 | russ | oops wrong channel |
| 16:47 | kados | :-) |
| 16:47 | so | |
| 16:47 | 4=1 is phrase | |
| 16:48 | 4=6 is word list | |
| 16:48 | Word list 6 A word list consists of one or more words | |
| 16:48 | separated by blanks (for example, ASCII | |
| 16:48 | hex "20"). No order of the words is | |
| 16:48 | implied. The attributes (other than | |
| 16:48 | structure) that are associated with the | |
| 16:48 | search term apply to each word in the | |
| 16:48 | word list. Any words in a word list may | |
| 16:48 | be explicitly truncated. (See | |
| 16:48 | "Truncation" -- section 2.5 below.) The | |
| 16:49 | relationship between the words in a word list | |
| 16:49 | is target-specific. | |
| 16:49 | so they're not meant to play nicely together | |
| 16:49 | in fact, they should be the same option | |
| 16:49 | sorry that's my fault | |
| 16:49 | although ... | |
| 16:49 | hmmmm | |
| 16:50 | I would expect 4=2 | |
| 16:50 | not 4=6 | |
| 16:52 | I've got to head out | |
| 16:52 | for a bit | |
| 16:53 | I'll continue working on this this evening | |
| 16:53 | owen | Me too. I'll try to hop back on in a few hours. |
| 16:53 | kados | I think we've made good progress |
| 16:53 | sounds good, thanks | |
| 18:56 | hey owen | |
| 18:56 | I've implemented an 'RPN' | |
| 18:56 | search as well | |
| 18:56 | owen | I saw that on the simple search screen but I don't know what it means |
| 18:56 | kados | works if you check the rpn box on the simple search |
| 18:57 | it's to help me figure out what zebra supports | |
| 18:57 | and how the search responds differently to different queries | |
| 18:57 | for instance: | |
| 18:57 | @attr 2=102 @attr 6=1 @attr 3=3 @attr 5=1 @attr 4=1 @attr 1=1016 birds | |
| 18:57 | is a RPN query | |
| 18:57 | for now I'm just using the bib1 attribute set: | |
| 18:58 | http://www.loc.gov/z3950/agency/defns/bib1.html | |
| 18:58 | semantics explained here: | |
| 18:58 | http://www.loc.gov/z3950/agency/bib1.html | |
| 18:58 | it's a mental puzzle | |
| 18:58 | basically, in order to know what attributes to group together for popular searches | |
| 18:59 | we're going to first have to figure out what zebra supports | |
| 18:59 | maybe the thing to do | |
| 18:59 | is to use a sypdus system as an example of what staff expect | |
| 18:59 | do you have a url handy? | |
| 18:59 | owen | http://library.canberra.edu.au/ |
| 19:00 | How's that for a quick draw? | |
| 19:00 | kados | heh |
| 19:00 | you're not the only one glazing | |
| 19:00 | this stuff's almost worse than MARC | |
| 19:01 | ahh, good | |
| 19:01 | that link's very helpful | |
| 19:02 | oohhh | |
| 19:02 | search by language ... | |
| 19:02 | nice | |
| 19:02 | this is really cool | |
| 19:02 | we can do all of this stuff now | |
| 19:02 | they distinguish between 'collections' | |
| 19:03 | and 'formats' | |
| 19:03 | I've seen that before | |
| 19:03 | owen | Yeah, Spydus was always weird about handling materials. |
| 19:03 | We always relied on an itemtype-like classification instead | |
| 19:04 | I think because our MARC records didn't have accurate materials designations | |
| 19:04 | (and why have a search option for "realia" if the library has none? | |
| 19:06 | kados | right |
| 19:09 | brb | |
| 19:22 | we're going to have to change the power search | |
| 19:22 | well ... I'm going to have to change it :-) | |
| 19:23 | zebra doesn't really implement a 'starts with' | |
| 19:23 | that would be attribute 3 in bib1 | |
| 19:24 | 3=1 - first in field | |
| 19:25 | but the phrase search + an attribute called 'right truncation' works almost the same way | |
| 19:25 | so really, 'phrase' and 'starts with' are the 'starts with' | |
| 19:25 | that's why if you take away phrase it doesn't work | |
| 19:27 | in fact, it doesn't really work at all | |
| 19:27 | even with phrase | |
| 19:47 | owen | kados: Do you know why 'related links' isn't showing up on opac-detail? |
| 19:47 | kados | hmmm, no |
| 19:47 | owen | http://zoomopac.liblime.com/cg[…]tail.pl?bib=61146 |
| 19:47 | kados | well ... yes |
| 19:48 | owen | http://66.213.78.101:82/cgi-bi[…]tail.pl?bib=61146 |
| 19:48 | kados | the subjects table isn't populated |
| 19:48 | owen | I thought that drew from the MARC tables |
| 19:48 | kados | neither is additionalauthors |
| 19:48 | hmmm ... maybe | |
| 19:48 | it's a good question, add it to our list | |
| 19:54 | owen: I've made the default 'simple' not 'advanced' | |
| 19:54 | owen | I see that. |
| 19:54 | kados | owen: I still think we should just have one OPAC search screen |
| 19:54 | :-) | |
| 19:54 | mu ha ha ha | |
| 19:56 | owen | We'll see. :) |
| 19:58 | kados | heh |
| 02:01 | paul | hello pierrick |
| 02:08 | pierrick | hello paul |
| 02:11 | ToinS | hi all |
| 02:17 | paul | tiens, revla notre étoile filante... |
| 02:23 | btoumi | hi everybody |
| 02:23 | ToinS | hi btoumi |
| 02:23 | paul | hello bruno. |
| 02:24 | des 4 coins de l'hexagone, les français se retrouvaient le channel #koha | |
| 02:24 | btoumi | lol c clair |
| 02:24 | paul | dewey les écoutait, stupidement béat. |
| 02:24 | dewey | paul: excuse me? |
| 02:24 | btoumi | hello dewey |
| 02:24 | dewey | hi, btoumi |
| 02:24 | btoumi | pual |
| 02:53 | chris | evening |
| 02:55 | paul | hi chris |
| 04:22 | Comete | bonjour tout le monde :) |
| 04:26 | ToinS | hello Comete |
| 04:31 | Comete | hello ToinS |
| 04:32 | i come back from a meeting about Koha with our librarians | |
| 04:33 | paul | and you have some good news for us ? |
| 04:33 | Comete | paul: yes maybe |
| 04:33 | paul: for you too :) | |
| 04:33 | paul | genre le mec il va encore me demander un devis ... |
| 04:34 | Comete | lol |
| 04:35 | btoumi | lol |
| 04:36 | Comete | non il se pourrait que SI on part sur Koha, on ait éventuellement des développements complémentaires à faire faire. |
| 04:36 | notement au niveau de l'interface qu'ils ne trouvent pas terrible | |
| 04:37 | paul | la bonne nouvelle : elle sera entièrement reprise pour Koha 3.0 |
| 04:37 | s/sera/est/ | |
| 04:37 | Comete | youpi ! |
| 04:37 | :) | |
| 04:37 | paul: et d'autres développements éventuels pour des modules complémentaires si la fonctionnalité attendue n'existe pas | |
| 04:38 | paul | une chtite pré-liste ? |
| 04:38 | (qu'on te dise si c'est déjà en cours voire déjà écrit sur le CVS) | |
| 04:38 | genre : | |
| 04:38 | - gestion des jours fériés => déjà dispo ;-) | |
| 04:38 | Comete | paul: ils préparent une liste de questions à ce sujet que je vous transmettrais évidement |
| 04:39 | pierrick | genre plus de vert fluo dans l'intranet ? |
| 04:39 | :-) | |
| 04:39 | paul | si elle était en anglais et postée sur koha-devel, ce serait parfait ! |
| 04:39 | ToinS | héhé |
| 04:39 | paul | yaplus de vert fluo dans l'intranet ! |
| 04:39 | Comete | paul: je ferais de mon mieux ;) |
| 04:39 | pierrick | youpi |
| 04:39 | paul | (et depuis un bon moment d'ailleurs. Sauf sur la page d'accueil) |
| 04:39 | pierrick | paul : koha-devel ou koha-discuss ? |
| 04:39 | paul | koha-devel dans un 1er temps je pense |
| 04:39 | pierrick | j'aurai dit koha-discuss |
| 04:40 | on discute des fonctionnalités entre utilisateurs et ensuite on passe à la solution technique sur koha-devel | |
| 04:40 | cela permet d'impliquer davantage les utilisateurs dans le développement | |
| 04:40 | (dans la discussion non technique en tout cas) | |
| 04:40 | paul | ouaip, ca se tient. |
| 04:40 | Comete | paul: une personne de la médiathèque a assisté à la Conférence Internationale à Paris début Mai 2006 |
| 04:41 | paul | oui, c'est vrai, j'avais oublié. inscription de dernière minute ! |
| 04:41 | Comete | paul: oui je devais venir aussi mais j'ai eu un truc sur le gaz... |
| 04:41 | pierrick | Comete, et alors, qu'a-t-elle pensé de la conf ? |
| 04:42 | Comete | pierrick: bah elle est inquiète par rapport au témoignage de l'école des mines quant à leur migration |
| 04:43 | pierrick: mais elle se dit que koha a bien évolué depuis... | |
| 04:43 | pierrick: donc on aura sans doute moins de problèmes | |
| 04:44 | j'espère | |
| 04:44 | pierrick | si vous passez en 3.0, Koha a effectivement beaucoup changé |
| 04:45 | Comete | pierrick: prévue quand la 3.0 ? |
| 04:46 | quand ce sera prêt j'imagine ;) | |
| 04:46 | pierrick | kados (joshua ferraro) est le release manager pour la 3.0 |
| 04:46 | je ne sais pas quand la 3.0 sera prêt | |
| 04:46 | e | |
| 04:46 | paul | une seule chose de sure : pas demain !!! |
| 04:46 | pierrick | je pense/espère qu'elle sera prête pour le 2ème semestre 2006 |
| 04:47 | Comete | mais je pense qu'on va migrer rapidement une fois la décision est prise, c'est une question de semaines... |
| 04:47 | pierrick | mais comme on est sur un modèle de release à fonctionnalité et pas un modèle de release à date, il est impossible de dire quand ce sera prêt, on peut juste estimer |
| 04:47 | alors tu migreras en 2.2.x | |
| 04:48 | Comete | en fait on a un budget pour ca qu'il va falloir utiliser soit avec Koha soit avec le logiciel actuel |
| 04:49 | nous on préfèrerait l'utiliser pour Koha mais c'est aux gens du métier d'en décider suivant le résultat de leur tests | |
| 04:50 | si Koha leur convient, on utilisera ce budget en formation ou pour financer un développement particulier qui profiterait à la communauté | |
| 04:51 | je pense que monsieur POULAIN doit proposer ce genre de prestation | |
| 04:51 | non ? | |
| 04:51 | pierrick | (pas que Paul mais oui) |
| 04:51 | Comete | ok |
| 04:53 | je suis à fond pour les LL et je travaille à 90% qu'avec ca, mais la décision ne m'appartient pas | |
| 04:54 | sorry chris i'm not polite... | |
| 04:54 | chris | no its ok |
| 04:54 | Comete | ;) |
| 04:55 | chris | there are far more french speakers online at the moment |
| 04:55 | im just being curious :) | |
| 04:55 | paul | comete :could you explain to chris how large & where is st lo ? |
| 04:55 | Comete | ok i will try |
| 04:57 | chris: saint-lo is a french town in Manche (the D-DAY location with Calvados ;) | |
| 04:58 | chris | ohhh ok |
| 04:58 | Comete | chris: there are about 20 000 inhabitants |
| 04:59 | chris | ahh about the same size as levin (the main branch of HLT) |
| 04:59 | Comete | chris: our library is wondering if they wil migrate to Koha or buy a new module for the actual application |
| 05:01 | chris | ah ha |
| 05:01 | Comete | not a free application... |
| 05:02 | chris: where do you live ? | |
| 05:02 | chris | right, so much for them to consider |
| 05:02 | wellington, nz | |
| 05:02 | Comete | chris: oooohhhh ! i would love to go there ! |
| 05:03 | chris | http://maps.google.com/maps?f=[…],0.43396&t=h&om=1 |
| 05:03 | see where it says Island Bay | |
| 05:03 | paul | just adopt Koha, get involved in development, ask chris to organise KohaCon 2.0 and ask your mayor for funds to go there. |
| 05:03 | (remove what is inapplicable ;-) ) | |
| 05:03 | chris | under the a in island ... is my house :) |
| 05:04 | Comete | chris: i've planned to go in NewZealand this year for my "wedding holiday" but i can't afford it |
| 05:04 | chris | ahh thats a shame |
| 05:04 | Comete | paul: good idea :) |
| 05:04 | chris | its the airfare that is expensive |
| 05:04 | once you get here, its chearp | |
| 05:04 | Comete | chris: so i will go to Norway instead |
| 05:04 | chris | cheap even |
| 05:04 | 1 euro = 2 nz$ | |
| 05:04 | ahh norway is beautiful too | |
| 05:05 | Comete | chris: these are the two country where i wanted to go in my life |
| 05:05 | chris | well that will be one down, just one to go :) |
| 05:05 | Comete | chris: so i will be in Norway in July |
| 05:06 | chris: yes i hope i could do that | |
| 05:07 | chris | im sure you will enjoy norway |
| 05:08 | and it will be much nicer than nz in july | |
| 05:08 | because july is winter here | |
| 05:08 | Comete | chris: ah ok |
| 05:08 | chris | unless you like rain :-) |
| 05:08 | and rugby | |
| 05:09 | Comete | chris: oh i live in Normandy you know... |
| 05:09 | chris: i'm not afraid of rain... :) | |
| 05:09 | chris | :) |
| 05:10 | paul | chris : in France, we say about normandy : |
| 05:11 | "the weather is good here, there is sun several times a day !" | |
| 05:11 | chris | lol |
| 05:11 | there is a town in new zealand, called New Plymouth | |
| 05:11 | its right at the base of a mountain | |
| 05:12 | Comete | chris: i live here: http://maps.google.fr/maps?f=q[…]3.779297&t=h&om=1 |
| 05:12 | chris | they say "If you can see the mountain, its going to rain, if you cant see the mountain its already raining" |
| 05:12 | Comete | lol |
| 05:13 | chris | ohh, google maps is very good for this sort of thing |
| 05:14 | Comete | yes |
| 05:15 | chris: i would like to show you my house but there's no aerial photo of it :) | |
| 05:15 | chris | :) |
| 05:16 | http://zoomin.co.nz/nz/welling[…]evern+street/125/ | |
| 05:16 | if you switch this to aerial | |
| 05:16 | you can see the roof of my house | |
| 05:17 | ToinS | i live there => http://maps.google.fr/maps?f=q[…]0.027122&t=h&om=1 |
| 05:17 | Comete | lol :) |
| 05:18 | ToinS: uhh ohh ! i can see you sitting in your bath :) | |
| 05:19 | ToinS | héhé !! |
| 05:19 | Comete | ToinS: you should close the window :) |
| 05:19 | chris | i remember toins drove past there on the way to cassis |
| 05:19 | ToinS | yep ! |
| 05:21 | paul | mine : |
| 05:21 | http://maps.google.fr/maps?f=q[…]0.027122&t=h&om=1 | |
| 05:21 | chris | ok well i might go to bed, i hope your library go with koha, and even if they dont i hope you get to visit new zealand some day comete ... im sure ill see you on irc again |
| 05:21 | paul | my house being the one on the right of the red point |
| 05:22 | (in the middle of the tree) | |
| 05:22 | mmm... | |
| 05:22 | http://maps.google.fr/maps?f=q[…]0.008883&t=h&om=1 | |
| 05:22 | is better... | |
| 05:23 | (the swimming pool further on the right NOT being mine ;-) | |
| 05:23 | chris | :-) |
| 05:23 | you have the see close .. who needs a swimming pool :-) | |
| 05:23 | sea even | |
| 05:23 | ok, now im going to bed | |
| 05:24 | good night all, nice to talk with you comete | |
| 05:24 | paul | have a good night chris |
| 05:26 | ToinS | good night chris |
| 05:32 | Comete | chris: good night :) |
| 05:32 | chris: for me too | |
| 09:22 | paul | is kados around ? |
| 11:43 | ToinS | bye all |
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