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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 15:20 | owen | hi kados |
| 15:22 | kados | afternoon |
| 15:24 | owen | How can we get Koha to display an error message on the detail screen if the biblio number wasn't found? |
| 15:25 | There must be some kind of way to set up an "if no results" option in the query | |
| 15:25 | Would that be hard to do? | |
| 15:26 | kados | hmmm |
| 15:27 | I can't think of a scenerio where that would be necessary ... has something come up recently? | |
| 15:27 | owen | For instance: you follow a link for record which no longer exists |
| 15:28 | You get a blank biblio detail page | |
| 15:28 | kados | right |
| 15:28 | owen | http://intranet.athenscounty.l[…]=thisisnotanumber |
| 15:28 | kados | :-) |
| 15:28 | lemme check the detail script | |
| 15:31 | this looks promising: | |
| 15:31 | $dat->{'count'}=@items; | |
| 15:31 | so adding something like | |
| 15:32 | if (!$dat->{'count'}) { | |
| 15:33 | and some kinda of warning ... | |
| 15:33 | but we don't have a very good messaging system so that would be hard to pull off without adding a whole new block of code | |
| 15:34 | I guess the assumption is that we're not going to have links to non-existing biblios ;-) | |
| 15:36 | owen | Good applications don't assume that everything is always going to be okay! |
| 15:37 | What if someone types in the url by hand? The way it is now, they're likely to believe that the record exists but is empty or corrupted somehow. | |
| 15:40 | (just ranting a little) | |
| 15:41 | Koha has the same problem in other areas too, like members | |
| 15:42 | kados | yep |
| 15:42 | it's due in part to not having a very good messaging framework built in | |
| 15:42 | so Evergreen has jabber for instance ;-) | |
| 15:44 | owen | kados: what does that get them? |
| 15:46 | kados | it allows them to display messages really easily to the user using a consistant framework |
| 16:11 | chris | its not the messaging system thats the problem, displaying errors is easy its html::template, its just ppl have been lazy and not error handled enough |
| 16:14 | certainly on the opac, you should need nothing more than a browser, no plugins, no extra software .. all you need in each template is a <TMPL_IF NAME="ERROR"><TMPL_VAR NAME="ERROR"></TMPL_IF> | |
| 19:06 | thd | Is anyone representing Koha at Frankfurt or do people think that not enough librarians attend? |
| 19:10 | rach | you should ask on the german language list |
| 19:10 | I'm pretty sure there is one | |
| 19:10 | thd | rach: Are there any installations in Germany? |
| 19:11 | rach | don't know |
| 19:12 | thd | It is difficult to check the Koha map anymore. |
| 19:12 | rach | it's gone - it didn't get transfered to the new website, but I don't hthink there were any german ones on it |
| 19:13 | but there was a german mailing list a while back | |
| 19:14 | thd | rach:Is the Koha map intended for replacement by a region and country divided text listing? |
| 19:15 | chris | http://www.saas.nsw.edu.au/koh[…]hp?page=KohaUsers |
| 19:15 | thd | chris: The map seemed to have more information unless my memory is false. |
| 19:16 | chris | different information |
| 19:16 | http://lists.katipo.co.nz/publ[…]/2004/003836.html | |
| 19:17 | there was someone playing in berlin as well, they were on the map | |
| 19:17 | but dorian wasnt, so map didnt have more, just different | |
| 19:21 | thd | chris: http://opac.ecla.de/ has something interesting but it is not Koha. |
| 19:24 | chris | yeah they may have gone with something else |
| 19:24 | id drop dorian mead an email and ask him if he knows | |
| 19:25 | he was the one working on the german translation of the templates last i heard | |
| 19:25 | thd | The manager of the bookshop that I am hoping will adopt Koha went off to Frankfurt today. She asked if she could find anyone there who would be involved with Koha even though she said that she may not have time while there. |
| 19:26 | chris: The German templates seem to be so old that paul has not included them in the po files for 2.2.4. | |
| 19:26 | chris | right, well you'll have ask someone who knows .. i dont :) |
| 19:28 | thd | Is the text content that formed the basis of the map available anywhere apart from the wiki which is different? |
| 19:29 | rach | the map is still at old.koha.org |
| 19:29 | if you want to look at it | |
| 19:30 | the info will be in the old website that we still have, but it's not published anywhere right now | |
| 19:30 | thd | rach: well that is good to know. I did not know there was an old.koha.org anymore. |
| 19:54 | The German list has the address de.koha.org, obviously a Katipo domain. Are there any archives? | |
| 19:54 | chris | no it wasnt a katipo one |
| 19:55 | thd | chirs: Is not de.koha.org a subdomain of koha,org? |
| 19:55 | chris | sure it is |
| 19:55 | but it points to de.koha.org. 58338 IN A 167.206.47.56 | |
| 19:55 | thats not a katipo machine | |
| 19:56 | thd | chris: oh :) |
| 20:03 | well the German list does not seemed to be maintained by an active list system. | |
| 04:31 | osmoze | hello |
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