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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 14:58 | kados | paul: you around? |
| 14:59 | jdtysko: how goes the cataloging project? | |
| 15:12 | jdtysko | the project is progressing |
| 15:12 | one snag, though | |
| 15:13 | i can't figure out how to update a server with the modified MARC record | |
| 15:29 | kados | jdtysko: if you're still there |
| 15:29 | jdtysko: the ability to update records isn't a feature of the Net::Z3950 module | |
| 15:30 | jdtysko: we're working on a new Perl-ZOOM module | |
| 15:30 | jdtysko: that will replace Net::Z3950 | |
| 15:30 | jdtysko: but I don't think that will ready for about a month or so | |
| 15:30 | jdtysko: maybe to months ;-) | |
| 15:30 | jdtysko: two even | |
| 15:31 | jdtysko | so is there any way to update a z3950 server then? |
| 15:33 | kados | jdtysko: not in perl ;-) |
| 15:41 | jdtysko: not in perl I think :-/ | |
| 15:41 | jdtysko: got a demo I can try out? | |
| 15:41 | jdtysko | not really |
| 15:42 | just a simple perl script that pulls in a search, modifies it and converts back to binary form | |
| 15:43 | kados | sweet |
| 15:43 | sounds like a good start ;-) | |
| 15:43 | jdtysko | ok, so should the project be able to add/modify records then? |
| 15:43 | kados | eventually yes ... |
| 15:43 | I think for now we should focus on searching for records | |
| 15:43 | and allowing a cataloger to view the record and modify it | |
| 15:44 | jdtysko | i did whip up a quick test interface |
| 15:44 | kados | and then save the resulting MARC file in one of the 'reservoirs' |
| 15:44 | jdtysko | so how permanent should the resivoirs be? |
| 15:44 | page-only, session-only, etc | |
| 15:45 | kados | well I would make them 100% permenant |
| 15:45 | if they are server-side in a db that's the easiest way to do it | |
| 15:45 | jdtysko | ok, we can do that |
| 15:45 | kados | so picture a MySQL db with a table for the reservoirs |
| 15:45 | jdtysko | ya |
| 15:46 | kados | maybe a 'recordstring' 'reservoirtype' 'timestamp' 'recordid', etc. |
| 15:46 | tables | |
| 15:47 | so you can specify maybe three reservoir types: 'unfinished', 'finished', 'working' | |
| 15:47 | and 'working' has a lock on it or something | |
| 15:47 | it's really a shame we don't have Perl-ZOOM done | |
| 15:47 | jdtysko | and then some administrator takes the "finished" table and sends it back to the server? |
| 15:48 | kados | yea ... well he exports all the 'finished' records as a single ISO2709 (MARC) format file |
| 15:48 | and then can import using the ILSes built-in tools | |
| 15:48 | too bad we can't just use Z39.50 for everything :-( | |
| 15:48 | jdtysko | ok i see |
| 15:48 | yeah really | |
| 15:50 | kados | jdtysko: if you're interested, I think there's PHP ZOOM code around somewhere |
| 15:50 | jdtysko: which would allow that | |
| 15:50 | jdtysko: but it would have to be ported when Perl-ZOOM is released | |
| 15:50 | jdtysko | ok thanks, i'll look into that |
| 15:50 | kados | jdtysko: so that's kinda yucky ;-) |
| 15:51 | jdtysko | yeah, php is a bit different |
| 16:08 | ok, well thanks for all of your help. i have to go to a meeting with my group now | |
| 16:09 | i'll tell them what i learned, and we may stop by here later on | |
| 16:37 | russ | kados are you around? |
| 16:43 | kados | russ: yep |
| 16:45 | russ | hi - sounds like we are about to do some similar work on serials? |
| 16:46 | wondering if there might be an oppurtunity to pool resources? | |
| 16:46 | kados | yea ... for sure |
| 16:46 | russ | we are at the speccing phase that the moment |
| 16:47 | kados | us too |
| 16:47 | russ | our new library consultant is compiling the requirements for our client |
| 16:47 | do you have a deadline/timeframe for your doc? | |
| 16:47 | kados | well ... this year ;-) |
| 16:47 | russ | sweet |
| 16:48 | that is similar to us | |
| 16:48 | kados | it'd be nice to included it in 3.0 |
| 16:48 | include even | |
| 16:48 | russ | oh yeah for sure |
| 16:49 | kados | so should we use a wiki for the spec doc? |
| 16:49 | russ | that could work |
| 16:49 | kados | wiki.liblime.com is available |
| 16:49 | if you like dokuwiki ;-) | |
| 16:50 | russ | we don't use wikis all that much |
| 16:50 | kados | so it's pretty easy to use ... it's just an editable website |
| 16:51 | so to add a new page you click on 'Edit this page' | |
| 16:51 | then you use the wiki syntax to create a new item (using CamelCase) | |
| 16:51 | then you click on the new item and edit that page to put in the content | |
| 16:51 | russ | right - we are preparing a word doc for starters (clients request |
| 16:51 | kados | k ... |
| 16:52 | russ | but assuming we can copy and paste |
| 16:52 | kados | but I bet if you could show the client how easy dokuwiki is to use they would prefer it ;-) |
| 16:52 | russ | maybe |
| 16:52 | kados | cause they can put comments directly in the document |
| 16:52 | it's the ultimate collaboration tool ;-) | |
| 16:53 | russ | the main thing will be trying to come up with a way |
| 16:53 | to manage different requirements | |
| 16:53 | kados | right |
| 16:54 | russ | we are just about to go off and have our staff meeting |
| 16:54 | so i will catch up with amanda (our library person then) | |
| 16:54 | kados | sweet |
| 18:33 | russ | kados you still there? |
| 18:53 | kados | russ: yep |
| 18:54 | russ | hi - amanda says that she should be finished her first draft of the spec today |
| 18:55 | kados | cool ... any chance she could post it to the wiki? or send me a copy (I'd be happy to put it up on the wiki) |
| 18:55 | might be nice to get the general KOha community's opinion too | |
| 18:56 | russ | i'll meet with her this avo |
| 18:56 | if it is ready we'll post it | |
| 18:56 | kados | cool ... thanks |
| 20:37 | rach | I think going out wider would be good |
| 20:38 | although design by committee can be bad, but I think this lot are used to that by now :-) | |
| 07:56 | kados | hi everyone |
| 07:56 | paul: you around? | |
| 07:57 | paul | yes. |
| 07:57 | hello joshua | |
| 07:57 | kados | paul: I was wondering what the status was on 2.2.4 ... released today? |
| 07:57 | paul: (just curious ... no pressure ;-)) | |
| 07:57 | paul: ha! | |
| 07:58 | paul | (& mail sent to koha-devel / koha / koha-announce) |
| 07:58 | kados | paul: serves me for not checking ;-) |
| 07:58 | paul | ;-) |
| 07:58 | kados | congrats! |
| 07:58 | paul | your welcome. |
| 07:58 | kados | and thank you ;-) |
| 08:02 | paul: I will be updating the LibLime demo later today | |
| 08:02 | paul: with 2.2.4 ;-) | |
| 08:02 | paul: but now I must get some coffee ;-) | |
| 08:16 | Sylvain | hi |
| 08:17 | paul | coucou |
| 08:17 | (mon mail d'annonce de la 2.2.4 est il arrivé sur la liste ? je ne l'ai pas reçu...) | |
| 08:18 | Sylvain | vu |
| 08:19 | paul | bon, va savoir pourquoi moi je l'ai pas reçu... |
| 08:19 | Sylvain | euh en fait après réflexion vu mais pas sur koha-infos |
| 10:41 | paul | hi owen. |
| 10:41 | owen | Hi paul |
| 10:41 | paul | a quick question : could you sent me your php script that lists all pending reserves ? |
| 10:43 | owen | It is two parts, really: one part grabs the reserves and puts them in a separate table. The other part queries that table. |
| 10:43 | The part that grabs the reserves is a script Stephen wrote. That's probably the more important part |
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