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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 12:26 | thd | kados: are you extant? |
| 12:33 | Sylvain: Why does ENSMP only have Koha for testing and not yet for production? | |
| 12:33 | Sylvain | it is in production since monday |
| 12:34 | thd | Sylvain, what is the URL to the production OPAC? |
| 12:34 | Sylvain | it is in production for librarians only |
| 12:35 | no opac yet | |
| 12:35 | users still use the old system | |
| 12:35 | thd | Sylvain: does that count as production? :) |
| 12:36 | Sylvain | issues are stored in it, cataloguing is done with it |
| 12:36 | I assume it can be told "production" | |
| 12:37 | thd | Sylvain: Are they copy cataloguing from BNF? |
| 12:37 | Sylvain | no |
| 12:38 | thd | Sylvain: Do they do copy cataloguing? |
| 12:38 | Sylvain | not yet |
| 12:38 | thd | Sylvain: Just original cataloguing? |
| 12:39 | Sylvain: You posted, "cataloguing is done with it". What type of cataloguing? | |
| 12:40 | Sylvain | original yes |
| 12:41 | thd | Sylvain: Did you read the preceding discussion about UNIMARC 700 $a and $b |
| 12:41 | ? | |
| 12:41 | Sylvain | no, and I won't have time to read it now, tomorrow |
| 12:42 | thd | Sylvain: Do they plan to use the Koha OPAC? |
| 12:43 | Sylvain | yes |
| 12:44 | See you later | |
| 12:44 | thd | good evening Syl-away |
| 19:59 | rach: what did you want to know yesterday about inventory? | |
| 20:01 | russ | hi thd: rach just popped out |
| 20:01 | not sure what she was after though | |
| 20:01 | thd | hello russ |
| 20:02 | I will have to pop-out shortly but I will not pop-back for a few hours | |
| 20:04 | russ: She had asked about inventory reports yesterday. I had originally asked you about them. | |
| 20:04 | russ | ah yep i remember |
| 20:05 | thd | russ: I do know how they work in Koha 2.2.3. |
| 20:05 | russ | i don't know how they work |
| 20:05 | oh cool | |
| 20:05 | is there a quick explanation? | |
| 20:05 | thd | russ: select a call number range and a library |
| 20:06 | russ: The report gives a list of titles sorted by call number. | |
| 20:07 | russ: Check the printed list against the shelf and you have some sort of inventory control. | |
| 20:08 | russ | right |
| 20:08 | ok i'll pass that onto rachel | |
| 20:08 | cheers | |
| 20:09 | thd | russ: A much more efficient system would allow retrieving books and scanning them a shelf at a time, possibly using a remote scanner. |
| 20:10 | russ: Or a wireless scanner or even a laptop and scanner with a wireless link to Koha. | |
| 20:11 | russ: Then the system could compare automatically against what was scanned | |
| 20:15 | russ | cool |
| 20:15 | looks like lunch has arrived | |
| 00:36 | thd | rach: Did what I told russ earlier about inventory reports answer the question you had for me yesterday? |
| 03:51 | osmoze | hello |
| 03:52 | thd | hello osmoze |
| 03:54 | osmoze: Does you library use the Koha Z39.50 client for copy cataloguing? | |
| 03:54 | osmoze | Paul, as tu une minutes a me consacrer, j ai un probleme avec le script "nettoie_bdp" sur la 2.3 |
| 03:54 | thd> not at this time | |
| 03:55 | we have catalogue of departemental library | |
| 03:56 | and for us, it's sufficient | |
| 05:21 | thd | osmoze: Does your library use the Koha OPAC? |
| 05:43 | Sylvain2 | osmoze une petite question, dans ta bibliothèque, les status des ouvrages sont bien mis à jour lors d'un prêt ? |
| 05:43 | salut au passage | |
| 05:50 | thd | Sylvain2: When is ENSMP planning to start using the Koha OPAC? |
| 05:51 | Sylvain2 | we don't know right now ... |
| 05:55 | thd | Sylvain2: Do the authors in you catalogue appear as 700 #1$aSurname,$bForename such as 700 #1$aLa Fontaine Verwey$bHerman de ? |
| 05:55 | Sylvain2 | does someone here know if the item status is updated when a book is issued ? It seems it doesn't but it would be surprizing ... |
| 05:56 | appear where? In the opac ? | |
| 05:57 | thd | Sylvain2: Do the 700 fields in the ENSMP MARC files use both $a and $b ? |
| 05:57 | Sylvain2 | yes they do |
| 05:59 | osmoze | Sylvain2> sur la version 2.3 ? |
| 05:59 | Sylvain2 | I have oui |
| 05:59 | 2.2.3 | |
| 05:59 | thd | Sylvain2: Only $a appears in the Koha administrative catalogue and OPAC detail view. How would you treat that issue? |
| 06:00 | osmoze | Sylvain2> aucun probleme la dessus |
| 06:00 | Sylvain2 | bon, ça doit venir de moi alors :) |
| 06:00 | thd, I haven't had any problem with that ... | |
| 06:03 | bizarre bizarre, sur demo.koha-fr.org ça n'a pas l'air de fonctionner non plus ... | |
| 06:03 | paul, ? | |
| 06:04 | osmoze | Sylvain, par contre, je n est pas encore etablie les regles de pret |
| 06:06 | thd | Sylvain2: If look at the OPAC detail view, with using both 700 $a and $b you should see only the author's last name in the detail view unless you modified something. Did you modify something? |
| 06:08 | Sylvain2 | ok, I hadn't understood your problem. It must be an error in the framwork defintion I think |
| 06:10 | thd | Sylvain2: Yes, I just wanted to know what you think ENSMP would do about that before using the OPAC. |
| 06:11 | Sylvain2 | It must be an error in your definition of framework because on their version I see the $a and $b. Are they shown in the marc view of your intranet part ? |
| 06:13 | thd | Sylvain2: This is in every unmodified Koha. In demo.koha-fr.org, the contents that should be separately in 700 $a and $b have both been stored in 700 $a as a workaround. |
| 06:16 | Sylvain2 | I come from demo.k and when you look at framework structure, no 700$b is defined |
| 06:16 | so it's normal | |
| 06:17 | thd | Sylvain: When ENSMP adopts the Koha OPAC will Fontainebleau, Corbeil, and Sophia also be adopting the Koha OPAC at the same time? |
| 06:18 | Sylvain2: It is normal for the Koha default UNIMARC bibliographic framework but not conforming to the UNIMARC standard. | |
| 06:19 | Sylvain2 | at start, only paris and fontainebleau will |
| 06:22 | thd | Sylvain2: Although, the issue I was thinking of for your shared OPAC for searching Paris, Fontainebleau, Corbeil, and Sophia may not be a problem if the non-conformance is from Koha being searched by an external catalogue. |
| 06:29 | Sylvain2: A catalogue outside Koha might be able to search Paris and Fontainbleau using 700 $a from Koha; and Corbeil and Sophia using 700 $a $b. It would certainly not work the other way around. However, you should investigate before you have an unexpected surprise. | |
| 06:30 | Sylvain2 | I'll think about it but before we have many other things to think about because the intranet part brings some problems :) |
| 06:32 | thd | Sylvain2: Do you have the issued status not being recorded after a book is issued? |
| 06:32 | Sylvain2 | yes it's one of the problems :) |
| 06:47 | thd | Syvain2: Where are you expecting to see the issue status recorded that it is not recorded for you? |
| 06:52 | Sylvain2 | in items.notforloan and in my 995$o |
| 06:54 | thd | Sylvain2: items.notforloan is a permanent status. |
| 06:54 | s/permanent/long term/ | |
| 06:55 | Sylvain2: items.notforloan does not change with issues. | |
| 06:55 | Sylvain2 | and does something change on issue ? |
| 06:56 | thd | Sylvain2: I have just now tested issuing on 2.2.3 and find SELECT * FROM "issues" reports correctly and displays correctly in both the OPAC and intranet. |
| 06:57 | Sylvain2 | yes but when you search a book in catalogue, how can you know it is on issue or it is in the library ? |
| 06:59 | thd | Sylvain2: items.notforloan sets whether an item circulates or not on an ongoing basis for some items may be library use only. items.notforloan is set manually when modifying holdings and should disable issuing if set to '1' or greater. |
| 07:01 | Sylvain2: The holding status at the bottom of the OPAC display may indicate out on loan status and due date. No holdings are displayed at the base of the ISBD view in any existing templates. | |
| 07:20 | Sylvain2: What are your other problems with the intranet? |
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