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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 18:08 | thd | kados: are you present? |
| 18:33 | chris: have you seen any posts to koha-devel after your reply to Sylvain and Joshua where you recommend creating additional biblioitems "Re: [Koha-devel] Itemtype and MARC21 Quandry" Date: 01/10/2005 08:57:37 +1200 ? I posted after afterwords and I believe Joshua did as well but I see no more messages on the list. | |
| 18:40 | chris: my test message to koha-devel has also vanished. There is no administration activity announcement about mail delays that I can see. | |
| 18:40 | chris | hmm nope |
| 18:41 | ive seen messages but i think thts because i as cc'd | |
| 18:41 | i was even | |
| 18:41 | theres nothing waiting in the admin queue for approval | |
| 18:43 | joshua replied to me, and i replied to that | |
| 18:44 | but i dont think either of them have come through yet, they didnt get bounced though | |
| 18:45 | thd | chris: I wrote a lengthy reply to the itemtype thread and recently a test message. |
| 18:45 | chris | id wait a bit |
| 18:46 | might be a big queue of mail at sourceforge | |
| 18:46 | thd | chris: Was not Joshua's message to you from 8 hours ago? |
| 18:47 | chris | dunno i was asleep |
| 18:48 | if it hasnt bounced, and it hasnt made it to mailman, my guess is its queued somewhere | |
| 18:48 | thd | chris: I believe that it was because I spoke to him on telephone after he said that he sent it. |
| 18:50 | chris: Are queues for 8 hours or more unusual on Sourceforge lists? | |
| 18:50 | chris | yes |
| 18:51 | but it moves an insane amount of mail | |
| 18:51 | so its not inconceivable, specially with all the crap tricks spammers use | |
| 18:53 | thd | chris: perhaps there is some admin work being done but they should post an announcement of that :) |
| 18:55 | chris: well I guess you will see my message eventually and I will see Joshua's reply to yours. | |
| 18:55 | chris | and my reply to that |
| 18:56 | :) | |
| 18:57 | there has no archive been made for october yet | |
| 18:57 | i suspect they are having 'issues' | |
| 19:00 | thd | chris: If more biblioitems were created to accommodate different circulation rules for different items, Wouldn't there be additional unwanted records appearing in the OPAC? |
| 19:00 | chris | no |
| 19:01 | biblioitems != biblio | |
| 19:01 | thd | chris: only different biblios appear as different records? |
| 19:02 | chris | exactly |
| 19:03 | http://opac.library.org.nz/cgi[…]tail.pl?bib=26679 | |
| 19:03 | 1 biblio, 3 biblioitms, 6 items | |
| 19:05 | thd | chris: where do I see the ISBN for the talking book? |
| 19:06 | chris | you dont in those templates |
| 19:07 | its up to the library to decide what info they want to display | |
| 19:07 | thd | chris: nor the publication date? |
| 19:07 | chris | http://opac.hlt.katipo.co.nz/c[…]tail.pl?bib=26679 |
| 19:08 | you can display whatever you want | |
| 19:08 | if a library wants the publication date, its literally a 5 min change | |
| 19:10 | everythng is passed through to the template | |
| 19:11 | thd | chris: In your last example, is Bloomsbury the publisher of the videos as well as the books? |
| 19:12 | chris | hmmm thats an error |
| 19:12 | its displaying the publisher as if it was part of the biblio | |
| 19:12 | but its not, its part of the biblioitem | |
| 19:13 | thd | chris: Should that be in the section below with the holdings? |
| 19:13 | chris | yep |
| 19:14 | as the talking book is sometimes a different publisher too | |
| 19:15 | broken templates ..... the bane of my life :) | |
| 19:16 | thd | chris: What would happen to the readability of the display if there were was very significant information for each biblioitem, such as the complete table of contents, reviews, etc.? |
| 19:17 | chris | id make them links |
| 19:18 | thats what i did with my proof of concept for reviews | |
| 19:19 | illl find the screen shots, (its behind auth) | |
| 19:20 | http://photos.bigballofwax.co.[…]eviews/6.JPG.html | |
| 19:21 | its just a big website (all of koha) just have links to more pages if you need them :) | |
| 19:26 | thd | chris: Do you have more examples of Koha being well integrated with the rest of a website so that you hardly know that it is Koha? |
| 19:26 | chris | hmm lemme look |
| 19:27 | sorta is | |
| 19:27 | http://library.lgnz.co.nz/cgi-[…]ha/opac-search.pl | |
| 19:28 | http://opac.lianza.org.nz/cgi-[…]ha/opac-search.pl | |
| 19:30 | http://www.philanthropy.org.au[…]ch/catalogue.html | |
| 19:32 | thd | chris: The first one was closest to what I had in mind, The beautiful graphics serve to hide Koha and several links to areas outside the OPAC are always visible. |
| 19:32 | chris | yep |
| 19:32 | even opac.library.org.nz | |
| 19:34 | thats the kind of work we at katipo have been doing lately, integrating koha | |
| 19:34 | thd | chris: Lianza does the same thing it is just not as pretty. |
| 19:34 | chris | yep |
| 19:35 | something kinda cool with lgnz is this | |
| 19:35 | thd | The Koha default template should be as beautiful as the one for LGNZ |
| 19:35 | chris | http://lgnz.co.nz/ |
| 19:36 | the library latest column is fetched straight from koha | |
| 19:37 | yeah, id love for koha 3.0 to come out with pretty default template | |
| 19:37 | s | |
| 19:37 | hopefully we at katipo will be able to help out with that | |
| 19:38 | ideally it will go into a feature freeze early enough, so that the designers can pretty it up | |
| 19:38 | the problem with trying to do nice templates on a work in process, is the templates keep getting broken :) | |
| 19:39 | lgnz is done with koha + kea | |
| 19:40 | kea to handle the uploading pdfs, triggering them to the live site etc, and koha to catalogue them | |
| 19:40 | thd | chris: Do you have other sites with both Koha and Kea? |
| 19:41 | chris | lianza |
| 19:41 | of course our staff koha, where we store all the rfp's, quotes, estimates | |
| 19:42 | it wouldnt need to be kea either, you can make it work with any of the opensource cms systems | |
| 19:42 | but we use kea, cos we know it best | |
| 19:44 | oh, hlt use kea to manage their website, but its not so integrated with koha in that instance, they just manage all the templates and static pages with it | |
| 19:44 | thd | chris: The biggest problem with 3.0 development seems to be the absence of immediate funding for rewriting Net::Z3950 so the Zebra integration can begin. |
| 19:45 | chris | yep |
| 19:45 | i suspect a serious amount can be done before that as well, my problem is time | |
| 19:46 | im now married, got two dogs, etc ... my time outside of work isnt so free anymore | |
| 19:47 | plus as i get older, im working more regular hours | |
| 19:47 | and not so inclined to do more work after work :) | |
| 19:48 | otoh, we seem to be getting some more koha based work, so i will have a chance to work on koha more again which is good, ive been pretty quiet the last year | |
| 20:02 | ok, im heading how | |
| 20:02 | home even | |
| 20:03 | thd | good evening chris |
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