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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 14:44 | owen | Hey shaun |
| 14:46 | shaun | hi owen |
| 16:10 | russ | hi shaun |
| 16:11 | shaun | hi russ |
| 16:11 | homepage: http://dev.shaunevans.co.uk:8080/koha/index.php | |
| 16:11 | content page (faq used as sample): http://dev.shaunevans.co.uk:8080/koha/content.php | |
| 16:14 | russ | cool |
| 16:14 | having a look now | |
| 16:16 | shaum - i am just going to have a look on a windows machine | |
| 16:17 | chris | looks nice in my firefox |
| 16:18 | shaun | much to my surprise, it renders just as well in IE6 - but i haven't had a chance to test in konqueror or safari |
| 16:18 | russ | looks great in ie on rach's computer |
| 16:18 | shaun | is rach looking? |
| 16:18 | genji | hello russ! Rach, welcome back! |
| 16:18 | russ | on my firefox the text is a little small, but i think i have something up with my default font sizes |
| 16:18 | chris | you can check it in konqueror eh russ? |
| 16:18 | russ | hi genji |
| 16:19 | genji | russ: you were going to get me to do some Kea CMS plugging? |
| 16:20 | russ | we are going to use mambo for the koha site, and i think we have it covered at the moment |
| 16:20 | we will need help with proofing | |
| 16:21 | shaun - looks good in konqueror to me | |
| 16:21 | genji | ah. okay. |
| 16:21 | russ | still small fonts on my puter, but i get that with a number of sites |
| 16:21 | chris | linux can do weird things with fonts, theres often a trick to sorting that out |
| 16:22 | russ | it is looking really good though shaun |
| 16:22 | great job | |
| 16:22 | shaun | thanks :-) |
| 16:22 | is rach around to give an opinion? | |
| 16:23 | genji: http://tinyurl.com/a6kjj, Ryan from liblime will be here, he's a mambo expert | |
| 16:23 | russ | i hear her coming |
| 16:30 | genji | kados, you awake? |
| 16:31 | shaun | russ: i still haven't had a real look at the third row on the homepage - have you started compiling case studies? |
| 16:32 | russ | slowly getting that stuff together |
| 16:32 | rach and i are having a look now | |
| 16:32 | there are a few things we have noticed | |
| 16:33 | do you want them in irc now | |
| 16:33 | shaun | yes, please |
| 16:33 | russ | compiled in a email, or in a new bugzilla component? |
| 16:34 | shaun | i would say irc is the best (allows discussion) |
| 16:34 | russ | http://dev.shaunevans.co.uk:8080/koha/index.php |
| 16:34 | the blue box | |
| 16:34 | http://dev.shaunevans.co.uk:80[…]ha/feature-bg.png | |
| 16:34 | is all one big image | |
| 16:34 | which will make it hard to change the photo and the text | |
| 16:35 | by text i mean the heading | |
| 16:35 | koha v2.2 | |
| 16:35 | genji | when your free rach, would like a chat. |
| 16:36 | ah. okay. can wait then. | |
| 16:37 | shaun | that's a point - although i had assumed that the maintainer of the homepage would have access to photoshop or similar, which it's all layered in |
| 16:38 | russ | i dont think they will |
| 16:38 | is it possible to do them as layers on that image? | |
| 16:39 | shaun | what d'you mean? split it into the background, an <h2> and an <img>? |
| 16:39 | owen | Sounds worth a try to me |
| 16:39 | russ | yep |
| 16:40 | shaun | ok, i'll have a go at that |
| 16:41 | anything else for the homepage? | |
| 16:42 | russ | umm i still think the case study box is a little narrow |
| 16:42 | maybe if it was as wide as the image above it that would look better | |
| 16:44 | on the content page shaun - looking at the navigation | |
| 16:44 | http://dev.shaunevans.co.uk:8080/koha/content.php | |
| 16:44 | shaun | yep |
| 16:44 | russ | would the features section always be expanded? or is that just to show what the navigation would look like for a section with subpages? |
| 16:45 | shaun | (btw i've fixed up the case study box on the hp) |
| 16:45 | russ | yeah case study box look much better now |
| 16:45 | shaun | always expanded, but if you would suggest otherwise i'm just as happy for that |
| 16:46 | russ | well i just think that if we get more pages under some of the other sections |
| 16:46 | then the precedent has been set for all pages to be seen in the nav | |
| 16:46 | i think it would be better | |
| 16:46 | just to show the nav expanded for the section you are in | |
| 16:46 | so if you are in features | |
| 16:47 | you see the other pages | |
| 16:47 | but if you are on faq | |
| 16:47 | you just see the features link | |
| 16:47 | shaun | i'm not sure about how feasible that is with mambo |
| 16:47 | russ | like with case studies, we would end up with quite a number of seperate pages in that section |
| 16:48 | hmm yeah - i was looking at that | |
| 16:48 | would require lots of different navigation menus items or what ever they are called | |
| 16:48 | must say that was one thing i though was a bit poor with it | |
| 16:49 | it will be one of the first things i ask ryan :-) | |
| 16:51 | shaun | have you picked up anything else on the content page? |
| 16:52 | russ | the breadcrumbs are in a position that i have seen used before |
| 16:52 | not that i think that is a bad thing | |
| 16:52 | just thinking about it | |
| 16:53 | shaun | they seemed to get in the way on the left |
| 16:54 | russ | yeah good point |
| 16:54 | they can detract from the page heading sometimes which is not good | |
| 16:55 | i think the major one is the image on the homepage | |
| 16:56 | otherwise it is looking all good | |
| 16:56 | i get no errors or warnings from my firefox HTML Validator plugin | |
| 16:56 | so that is all good | |
| 16:57 | shaun | hehe, i've been there ;-) |
| 16:58 | russ | yeah i can see |
| 16:58 | the content page looks great in lynx | |
| 17:00 | shaun | not often you can say that about any page in lynx :p |
| 17:00 | russ | :-) |
| 17:00 | sorry shaun i have to go | |
| 17:00 | wee problem on another site that needs my attention | |
| 17:01 | shaun | ok, thanks for coming |
| 17:01 | russ | i'll catch you tomorrow for the mambo discussion |
| 17:04 | genji | hrm... says thursday on my timeanddate thing.... |
| 17:04 | when is this mambo discussion, russ? | |
| 17:04 | shaun | thursday for me as well - where abouts are you, genji? |
| 17:05 | genji | New Zealand. |
| 17:05 | russ | http://tinyurl.com/a6kjj |
| 17:05 | genji | its tuesday today.. |
| 17:05 | russ | ah right |
| 17:05 | genji | its on at thursday 11am, russ? |
| 17:06 | that isn't tomorrow... | |
| 17:06 | russ | kiwi time - yep |
| 17:06 | so thursday - sorry my mistake | |
| 17:06 | shaun | so it's 49 hours' time (decimals, they make my brain work numerically) |
| 17:06 | genji | k. |
| 17:09 | hmm.... why Mambo over Kea? hrm... ill wait till thursday. | |
| 17:12 | shaun | genji: the original plan was to use opencms - to quote rach: |
| 17:12 | ok - we don't have anything particularly against mambo, I'm sure it's a fine piece of software, but we've identified open CMS as a good candidate for doing large info websites - which is something we're into, and wanting to find a good product for | |
| 17:13 | so what we want to *get* out of this project other than a fab new koha site is something we can do a proper test of open cms with | |
| 17:14 | then to quote russ: "We are going with Mambo for koha.org - openCMS is too steep a learning curve." | |
| 17:14 | genji | ahh.. okay. |
| 20:30 | available, rach? | |
| 20:57 | russ | sorry genji - she is in a meeting most of this afternoon |
| 20:58 | genji | hrm.. she said she'd be free... oh well. k.. ill wait. |
| 21:20 | jo | hey Simon |
| 21:23 | genji | hello jo. |
| 21:24 | jo | hi Beth here Jo will be back down in two minutes |
| 21:24 | genji | eh, prehaps its better to say, hello levin, then. |
| 21:24 | jo | and I'm picking your not Simon |
| 21:25 | genji | nope. |
| 21:25 | russ | hi beth |
| 21:25 | i think you are after #hlt | |
| 21:25 | jo | yep |
| 21:25 | genji | heheh. |
| 21:25 | they always venture this way. hmm. | |
| 00:22 | rach | sorry genji - i'll be around with more time tommorrow i think |
| 00:23 | genji | oh. okay. don't have time now eh? |
| 00:23 | rach | no just got in, am eating pie, then dog class at 6pm |
| 00:23 | genji | mmmm.. pie..... |
| 00:23 | okay, tomorrow then. | |
| 02:38 | osmoze | hello |
| 02:38 | paul | hello aussi |
| 02:40 | genji | hello paul. hey, you a programmer right? |
| 02:41 | read kados idea of borrower categories inherited permissions? | |
| 02:45 | hdl | hello |
| 02:47 | genji | paul? you there? |
| 02:48 | paul | (on phone) |
| 04:56 | genji, to answer( late) your question : | |
| 04:56 | we spoke of this & Koha DB scheme is not at all organized to do such things. | |
| 04:56 | so, we think we can't do it yet. | |
| 06:14 | genji | paul, still here? |
| 06:41 | paul | genji : i'm here (back from lunch) |
| 06:41 | genji | heu |
| 06:42 | k. umm. whats wrong with the idea of borrower category inherit? | |
| 06:43 | paul | nothing. |
| 06:43 | it's just that it seems to be a too big stuff | |
| 06:43 | genji | ahh. |
| 06:43 | paul | maybe in the future the idea could come back |
| 06:44 | genji | well.. i think we have the permissions inheriting just for the initial borrower creation? |
| 06:45 | paul | depends on what you mean here |
| 06:45 | genji | or prehaps we create a second field called parent.. where a 1 signifies that the flag is set to inherit, and follows the borrower's changes? |
| 06:45 | paul | what we have is : a set of default permissions activated when user is created |
| 06:46 | & i'm not sure it's really useful | |
| 06:46 | genji | right. well.. the next step is to have borrower categories with a flag field. |
| 06:46 | paul | (ie : not sure it's used by anyone, as opac access is unchecked) |
| 06:47 | genji | and set that flag field to the desired flags for the category. |
| 06:47 | and upon borrower creation, the flags get copied to the borrower. | |
| 06:47 | and thats it. | |
| 06:47 | what do you think? | |
| 06:47 | useful? | |
| 06:48 | paul | which flag could be set ? |
| 06:48 | (give me an example) | |
| 06:49 | genji | all that appear in borrowers - modify flags. |
| 06:50 | paul | yes, but pratically, all those flags are related to librarian stuff |
| 06:50 | & borrower types are usually used for patrons | |
| 06:50 | (with only 1 category for librarian) | |
| 06:51 | at least, that's how it works for most of my libraries | |
| 06:51 | genji | right, but big library, with varying degrees of responsibility, would need more than 1 librarian category. |
| 06:51 | paul | OK, I agree |
| 06:52 | so it could be useful | |
| 06:52 | genji | -nods- a straight initial copy would be useful? |
| 06:53 | paul | yes : having default flags attached to borrower category. |
| 06:53 | genji | this would be a easy code, i imagine. |
| 06:54 | paul | every newly created patron having the default flag of it's category. |
| 06:54 | requires a new tables, but quite easy otherwise. | |
| 06:54 | (table, without s) | |
| 06:54 | genji | -nods- new table? nah, just a new flag. |
| 06:54 | err | |
| 06:54 | new field. | |
| 06:54 | paul | mmm... right |
| 06:55 | genji | int(11), using the borrower's flags template, modified abit. |
| 06:55 | paul | right. |
| 06:56 | flag list coming from a table. | |
| 06:56 | genji | eh, ya, wherever the flag list comes from currently. |
| 06:57 | okay, working on it now. | |
| 06:59 | what did you think of my borrowerimages addition? | |
| 07:02 | paul | i haven't investigated what it does yet. |
| 07:03 | (70 commits on rel_2_2 and 120 on head to look at) | |
| 07:03 | (doing this atm) | |
| 07:04 | genji | k. what it does, is allows the librarian (one with add/modify borrowers) to upload a picture (currently jpg only) to koha, and it displays in modify users and circulations when the card is scanned in. |
| 07:04 | paul | great ! |
| 07:05 | genji | Ya. hmm.. wasn't my idea though. |
| 07:05 | paul | (except it was already in argentina code, but i'm afraid we've failed to include it into official code...) |
| 07:05 | genji | Ya. someone said it was in the argentina code. |
| 07:05 | afterwards. | |
| 07:06 | still, it was a good exercise | |
| 07:07 | eh, poor guy. Steve Tonnesen did the member-flags.pl on 26 july, 2002. His birthday. | |
| 07:08 | paul | you know steve birthday ? |
| 07:08 | genji | # script to edit a member's flags |
| 07:08 | # Written by Steve Tonnesen | |
| 07:08 | # July 26, 2002 (my birthday!) | |
| 07:08 | paul | ;-) |
| 07:10 | Sylvain | hi |
| 07:10 | paul | hello sylvain |
| 07:10 | genji | course, the memberflag pl having $issues in it is abit wierd. |
| 07:22 | whats the difference between the $flags and the $accessflagshash returned from getpatroninformation? | |
| 07:34 | okay, my mind has just turned into swiss cheese. back in 8 hours. | |
| 07:34 | sleep becomeith. | |
| 09:42 | hdl | hi owen |
| 09:42 | owen | Hi hdl |
| 09:42 | What's new? | |
| 09:43 | hdl | Working on a migration. |
| 09:43 | Paul is back and has quite good news. | |
| 09:44 | owen | He got a couple of invitations, didn't he? |
| 09:44 | paul | right ;-) |
| 09:44 | hi owen | |
| 09:44 | owen | Hi paul |
| 09:44 | kados | hi everyone |
| 09:46 | paul | kados & joshua : i spoke with Ineo chairwoman today. |
| 09:46 | kados | paul: great ... what's the latest? |
| 09:46 | paul | they have selected 2 candidates to hire to work on Koha at full time |
| 09:46 | kados | paul: great! |
| 09:47 | paul | 1 is OSS & library skillfull, & is OSS & Perl skillfull |
| 09:47 | (the other one is...) | |
| 09:50 | owen | paul, any more information about whether they'll be committing back to CVS? |
| 09:50 | paul | Ineo ? |
| 09:50 | owen | Yes |
| 09:50 | paul | he'll 1st work on SUDOC bulkmarcimport |
| 09:50 | + i suggested they should candidate as QA manager | |
| 09:51 | + a list of other features still to define. | |
| 09:51 | if you have suggestions, feel free to send them, i'll meet them next week |
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