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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 10:57 | kados | hey owen |
| 10:57 | owen | Hi |
| 11:05 | We really need a system preference to specify whether we want MARCdetail or detail by default. | |
| 11:05 | kados | I thought there was one |
| 11:05 | owen | I don't think so. I think there's only a preference for what view to use by default in the OPAC |
| 11:06 | kados | ahh ... I thought that was what you were refering to |
| 11:06 | you mean for the intranet too? | |
| 11:06 | owen | Yeah. |
| 11:07 | I have it hard-wired in NPL's setup to go to detail.pl, because I don't think our staff wants to see the MARC view by default (I sure don't) | |
| 11:07 | kados | NBBC won't want the MARC view to be default ... that I'm sure of |
| 11:08 | owen | I'll change it in their template |
| 11:10 | kados | I've been thiking about Paul's new menus |
| 11:10 | maybe we should use a free version of that functionality like Overlib | |
| 11:10 | http://www.bosrup.com/web/overlib/ | |
| 11:11 | I've used it in a couple of places in LibLime's demos | |
| 11:11 | it's a very nice library | |
| 11:11 | and a sinch to use | |
| 11:12 | owen | Does it do drop-down menus? All I'm seeing are the pop-up windows |
| 11:17 | kados | the 'sticky' popups are kinda like drop-down menuds |
| 11:17 | menus even | |
| 11:17 | there used to be an example on the website | |
| 11:19 | http://www.macridesweb.com/oltest/STICKY.html | |
| 11:23 | I've got a alistapart.com site bookmarked as well: | |
| 11:23 | owen | I think these menus behave very nicely. I only wish they'd 'retract' if you clicked another part of the page. You have to click the menu item again to retract it. |
| 11:23 | kados | http://www.alistapart.com/articles/dropdowns/ |
| 11:23 | owen | http://www.wpdfd.com/editorial/simplemenus.htm |
| 11:24 | kados | ooh ... those are nice |
| 11:39 | so the ISBD link is supposed to be a alternate view? | |
| 11:39 | or is it like a summary of the book? | |
| 11:39 | I'm trying to figure out whether it's in the MARC records | |
| 11:39 | owen | ISBD is an alternate view that can be configured via system preference |
| 11:39 | kados | gotcha |
| 11:40 | owen | It's very complex to set up, from my point of view |
| 11:45 | kados | cool ... it works |
| 11:45 | so I assume this would be useful if you were citing something in a paper or something | |
| 11:45 | it would be really cool if you could export to endnotes format or something ;-) | |
| 11:46 | owen | You know librarians, they always want everything to be /just so/ ;) |
| 11:46 | thd | owen: ISBD view has the same problem as other Koha templates that attempts to use a standard configuration where to place subfields instead of reading what subfields are present in what sequence form the record and then merely supplying standard punctuation to join subfields. |
| 11:46 | s/form/from/ | |
| 11:46 | kados | thd: actually, setting it up in that way should be pretty simple |
| 11:47 | as far as I can tell you can put in as many fields as you want separated by whatever punctuation you want and Koha will only display the ones that exist | |
| 11:48 | thd | kados: you have to specify an order for subfields that may be repeated or in a different sequence from your chosen configuration in the record itself |
| 11:51 | kados: a configuration for Koha ISBD specifies subfield order as part of the process of specifying linking punctuation. Only the punctuation and the need to display particular subfields at all should be specified in the configuration. | |
| 11:52 | kados: The sequence and repetition of subfields should be read from the record. | |
| 11:54 | kados: how does know the original order of repeated fields? Where is that stored? I know where the original order of subfields is stored but not fields. | |
| 11:55 | kados | I've no idea |
| 11:55 | it's something we should look at for 3.0 | |
| 11:56 | thd | kados: Koha does seem to display field order correctly, unlike subfield order while subfiled order is clearly stored in the DB but not used in the templates. |
| 11:59 | kados have you scrolled down your large record at 800 x 600 to see the changing font sizes and columns disappearing then returning? | |
| 11:59 | kados | yep ... didn't happen to me |
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