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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 12:31 | thd | owen: Had you found how to assign a damaged item to itemtype 'damaged too fragile to circulate' or something similar that you and kados seemed to be concerned with last week? |
| 12:32 | owen | It's not something I've been working on |
| 12:32 | thd | owen: Do you remeber the questions kados had asked you about that? |
| 12:33 | owen | not offhand |
| 12:36 | thd | owen: ooh, maybe its importance had seemed especially minor even to him and he initiated the query. I have missed him on IRC when I was asking. |
| 12:48 | kados: ping | |
| 15:24 | dan | hi there everyone, I just installed koha but for some reason z39.50 doesnt work, and I get an error about mysql syntax and Breeding.pm |
| 15:25 | does anyone know what that might be? | |
| 15:35 | thd | dan: what operating system did you install koha on? |
| 15:35 | dan | debian sarge linux |
| 15:36 | thd | dan: did you launch the z39.50 daemon? |
| 15:36 | dan | yeah |
| 15:38 | thd | dan: have you configured some reliable z39.50 server targets with the correct information? |
| 15:39 | dan | actually i think i just fixed it... i had the loc server set up to unimarc |
| 15:39 | thanks for the help :-) | |
| 15:40 | kudos on the software y'all. | |
| 19:27 | thd | Genji: are you there? |
| 19:39 | dan | hi everyone. I installed koha today, and have been adding books using z3950, but after a while it lags and stops working. I find w/ ps that there are a bunch of forked (i think) processz3950que processes and if i restart the daemon it works again |
| 19:39 | I think maybe I'm not using it right? | |
| 19:39 | also the window allways says "still 3 requests to go" or else "still ?? requests to go" | |
| 19:40 | any idea what i'm doing wrong? | |
| 19:43 | chris | hi dan |
| 19:43 | it might not be you | |
| 19:43 | its not a particularly robust piece of software (the z3950 part of koha) | |
| 19:44 | in theory, it should fork a request for each server, these should then die when the results are returned | |
| 19:45 | its a good idea in theory, having a daemon that does the z3950 requests | |
| 19:46 | since they can take a long time to return, it gets around timeout problems | |
| 19:46 | but it needs some work to make it a bit more solid | |
| 19:46 | dan | so, basically, some of the servers i have listed are not returning in a timely manner and the processes are getting hung? |
| 19:46 | chris | that would be my guess |
| 19:47 | dan | okay... so i'll try removing some servers |
| 19:47 | i've noticed that it happens more often when i try entering books that most servers don't have any info on | |
| 19:47 | chris | that makes sense |
| 19:47 | what it tries to do is get a certain number of results | |
| 19:48 | and will keep trying servers until it does (or runs out of servers to try) | |
| 19:48 | dan | okay... so that's what the "still 3 requests to go" thing means |
| 19:49 | chris | i think thats 3 servers left to query ... or 3 searches left to go |
| 19:49 | dan | okay... i got it |
| 19:49 | chris | i cant remember which :) |
| 19:49 | dan | you're able to do more than one search at a time? |
| 19:50 | chris | i dont think so, so its more likely 3 servers left to query |
| 19:50 | dan | okay |
| 19:50 | cool | |
| 19:50 | well, thanks for the help, it makes a lot more sense now | |
| 19:50 | chris | for the next major version of koha, we have a couple of options |
| 19:51 | one of which is to take an existing free software z3950 client | |
| 19:51 | and get koha to be able to use it | |
| 19:51 | dan | I'm trying to get this thing to the point where volunteers at this community center can use it effectively... so it has to run smoothly :) |
| 19:51 | oh, that'd be cool | |
| 19:51 | chris | otherwise, we will refactor and try make it a bit tighter |
| 19:51 | dan | i like how the z3950 thing works in theory... |
| 19:52 | chris | yeah |
| 19:52 | in practice its a bit flakey | |
| 19:52 | dan | especially how it's distributed so people can share their database |
| 19:52 | like w/ the z3950 server in the package | |
| 19:52 | chris | yeah |
| 19:52 | that will be much better in the next major version too | |
| 19:52 | dan | especially since the place i'm at has a lot of stuff most places dont |
| 19:53 | chris | we already know how to integrate a much better z3950 server |
| 19:53 | dan | cool |
| 19:53 | I'm pretty excited about this software, I think it's going to work well for us | |
| 19:54 | chris | excellent |
| 19:54 | dan | once we get a barcode scanner anyway :) |
| 19:54 | chris | when you are up and running drop us a note, and we'll add you to the koha users map :) |
| 19:54 | dan | okay, that sounds good |
| 19:54 | i'm going to get back at this now, thanks a lot | |
| 19:55 | oh, i meant to ask, when's the next major release looking like it might come out? | |
| 19:56 | thd | :-) |
| 19:56 | chris | theres going to be a 2.2.4 bugfix release out in the nearish future |
| 19:56 | dan | cool |
| 19:56 | chris | but 2.4/3.0 (we havent decided on the number yet, i think it will be 3.0 lots of changes) will be early 2006 |
| 19:57 | dan | sweet, i'll definately look forward to it |
| 19:57 | one feature that I can already tell might be usefull would be something where you coul list a bunch if isbn's someplace and resolve all of them at one time | |
| 19:57 | or something like that | |
| 19:58 | chris | right |
| 19:58 | dan | it takes a long time to enter all these books :) |
| 19:58 | chris | heres a trick |
| 19:58 | you can use the bulkmarcimport.pl script to load a big bunch of marc records into the reservior | |
| 19:59 | and then when you go to add a new book, it searches the reservior and if it matches a title, you can prefill the form with the data | |
| 20:00 | dan | oh, okay, i'll try that out |
| 20:00 | thd | chris: which is the better z39.50 server [did you mean client] that you already know how to integrate? |
| 20:00 | chris | i meant server |
| 20:00 | zebra, from indexdata | |
| 20:01 | thd | the daemon acts as a client |
| 20:01 | chris | i know |
| 20:01 | i was talking about 2 different thing | |
| 20:01 | s | |
| 20:02 | <dan> like w/ the z3950 server in the package | |
| 20:02 | > we already know how to integrate a much better z3950 server | |
| 20:02 | koha has a z3950 server as well as the client, but neither of them are what you'd call rocksolid | |
| 20:03 | thd | chris: what do you know about better client integration? |
| 20:03 | chris | no one has really looked into it |
| 20:05 | thd | there was a reply for Index Data on koha-zebra to a message that I had forwarded where I had added a note about Event module problems. |
| 20:05 | chris | dan: sorry i put you slightly wrong |
| 20:05 | bulkmarcimport.pl will load straight into your catalog | |
| 20:05 | /cgi-bin/koha/import/breeding.pl will import into the reservior | |
| 20:06 | bulkmarcimport.pl you need to run from the commandline | |
| 20:06 | ok, i gotta get back to my paid job | |
| 20:06 | cyas later | |
| 20:07 | dan | thanks |
| 20:09 | Genji | hiya all |
| 20:10 | thd | chris: Sebastian form Index Data recommended the Yaz/Zoom API. |
| 20:11 | Genji: hello | |
| 20:13 | Genji: http://www.librarystuff.net/20[…]library-opac.html | |
| 20:18 | Genji: The link above is to a blog posting about a library near you. Much nearer you than me, certainly. North Shore Libraries in New Zealand. Mike Copley, Assistant Librarian and Web Developer has a graphical map linked to OPAC results showing book location as a red mark. Perhaps you would be interested to enquire with him about how he implemented that. | |
| 20:24 | Genji: I could not find the link previously, after I confused it with something I had read about extending an Innovative Interfaces ILS. | |
| 20:39 | chris, rach: Where would I find the template set that provides access to the page for assigning items to biblioitems? | |
| 20:42 | chirs, rach: You had posted that the current default and NPL templates were broken for that. | |
| 21:40 | rach | um chris gave you the URL to hack the other day |
| 21:41 | thd - http://katipo.co.nz/gallery/album26 | |
| 21:41 | that shows how it's supposed to work (well where) | |
| 21:42 | and its the edit button on the more detail page for group that is broken in the templates | |
| 21:44 | hmm - http://koha.eeo.katipo.co.nz/ | |
| 21:45 | I'm getting biowhat | |
| 21:49 | erg wrong channel | |
| 02:18 | Genji | hiya rach |
| 02:21 | paul | hello rach/Genji |
| 02:21 | Genji | hiya paul. how goes/ |
| 02:22 | paul | fine, thanks. Nice weather, not too hot for instance ;-) |
| 02:22 | Just 1 minor bad thing : I saw Ocean 12 yesterday, it's really a bad movie. | |
| 02:22 | Ocean 11 was fun, imho, and Ocean 12 is a non sense | |
| 02:23 | (+ really poorly translated in french) | |
| 02:23 | Genji | hmm... right. saw The Island, today. Really really enjoyed it. |
| 02:23 | paul | (mmm... bad is not the right word in english. But you understand what I mean) |
| 02:37 | hdl | hi everybody. |
| 02:38 | paul | salut henri damien. Bien dormi ? |
| 02:38 | Noane vous a laissé un peu en paix ? | |
| 02:38 | hdl | révéillé 3 fois. |
| 02:38 | Mais elle ne sera pas là de la journée. | |
| 02:38 | paul | c'est un léger progrès non ? |
| 02:39 | hdl | Oui. Mais j'ai l'impression que ce n'est pas seulement des angoisses mais aussi fonction de ce qu'elle a mangé et de sa digestion. |
| 02:39 | Elle aurait des diarrhées nocturnes que cela ne m'étonnerait pas. | |
| 02:39 | paul | ah, là il va falloir creuser, effectivement. |
| 02:40 | hdl | J'ai juste eu besoin d'être là et de la cajoler un peu. Et elle s'est calmée, la première fois. |
| 02:40 | La dernière fois, cétait à 7h... heure du réveil :) | |
| 02:41 | paul | nous, nous avons eu 4H et 6H30 ;-) |
| 02:41 | hdl | Nous sommes donc unis dans les tribulations de l'enfantement... ;) |
| 02:41 | Did you have time to look at my latest commited code and see why it wouldn't work ? | |
| 02:42 | enfantement à prendre à un sens plus large.... | |
| 02:42 | paul | no mail on koha-cvs, I thought you didn't commit. |
| 02:43 | why did sf forget to send the mails is a good question... | |
| 02:43 | ok, i update my cvs & look immediatly. | |
| 02:43 | (just sending doc to in2p3 before) | |
| 02:43 | let gnomemeeting ready, i call you when i have suggestions. | |
| 02:46 | hdl | paul : Sorry. My latest commit did not work. |
| 02:51 | It was aborted since you comitted a version of updatedatabase before mine. | |
| 02:51 | paul | ;-) |
| 02:51 | (as you seem to have forgotten updatedatabase cleaning that I suggested few weeks ago, i made it myself ;-) ) | |
| 02:53 | hdl | Not forgotten. I thought it was Long term work. |
| 02:53 | paul | it was not urgent, but better to do it before playing with 3.0 database. |
| 02:53 | so, in fact, it had to be done asap. | |
| 02:54 | anyway, it has been made, that's what is important ;-) | |
| 03:25 | osmoze | bonjour |
| 03:25 | paul | 'lut |
| 03:28 | osmoze | paul, je recherche desesperement une 2.0, tu aurais cela ? |
| 03:28 | paul | il doit toujours y avoir un 2.0.2 sur sourceforge non ? |
| 03:28 | osmoze | pas trouvé :( |
| 03:28 | paul | fichtre, c'est exact. |
| 03:28 | osmoze | ni sourceforge ni katipo |
| 03:28 | paul | pourquoi, tu veux revenir en 2.0 ? |
| 03:29 | osmoze | bin c est pour l upgrade |
| 03:29 | paul | Je te réactive la 2.0.2 sur sourceforge |
| 03:29 | osmoze | je migre cette semaine |
| 03:29 | ok, merci :) | |
| 03:29 | paul | super pour ce qui est de la migration ;-) |
| 03:30 | osmoze | je risque d etre un peu embetant ces prochains temps ^^ |
| 03:30 | paul | je suis là |
| 03:30 | voilà | |
| 03:30 | http://sourceforge.net/project[…]&package_id=12718 | |
| 03:30 | osmoze | ok, c est parti, merci :) |
| 03:32 | paul | you're welcome |
| 03:47 | osmoze | tiens, quand il y a une erreur dans l installeur, et que l on retombe sur le shell, c est tout rouge ^^ |
| 03:47 | paul | reset est ton ami je pense |
| 03:48 | (pas le bouton, hein, la commande shell) | |
| 03:48 | osmoze | lol |
| 03:48 | ^^ | |
| 03:48 | hdl | lorsque tu relances l'installer, les couleurs se réinitialisent dtf |
| 03:49 | osmoze | oki :) et bonjour hdl ^^ |
| 03:49 | hdl | bonjour osmoze. |
| 03:49 | un plaisir de se trouver sur des listes amies ;) | |
| 03:50 | osmoze | vi :) |
| 03:50 | tiens, un ls et plus rien couleur normale | |
| 03:50 | bon | |
| 03:50 | paul | c'était un message codé ? |
| 03:50 | hdl | en fait, on fréquente léa tous les deux ;) |
| 04:21 | osmoze | une question paul, le script d import et export avec la bdp fonctionnera toujours avec la 2.3 ? |
| 04:22 | paul | probablement, mais c'est trop tot pour le dire définitivement. En tous cas, nous allons tout faire pour conserver l'API actuelle de la gestion des notices. |
| 04:28 | osmoze | hum....ma question (mal formulée) parle du script que tu nous avez developper pour ajouter et enlever les notices bdp et c etait sur la 2.2.3 ^^ |
| 04:29 | paul | ah, alors c'est clair : RAS |
| 04:29 | aucune modif dans la base, donc aucune modif dans les API, donc ca marchera pareil ;-) | |
| 04:30 | osmoze | merci :) |
| 05:12 | paul | hdl : commit avec modifs, mais ca ne marche toujours pas bien. Mais c'est meux. je continue à chercher |
| 05:13 | hdl | merci. Je vais étudier ce qui ne va pas. |
| 07:06 | osmoze | paul, une question venant de sandrine, tu me dis de virer le thesaurus 700 701 702, sa question : c est remplacé par quoi ? car si on recherche par auteur ca marche plus |
| 07:06 | et pour les nouvelles notices que j integrerai de la bdp, ca fera comment ? | |
| 07:07 | paul | joker pour la BDP. |
| 07:07 | osmoze | erf, en fait je comprend pas le couac de ces champs |
| 07:07 | paul | s'il n'y a pas les auteurs en 200, alors, il faut laisser les champs 700, 701 et 702 |
| 07:07 | MAIS : tu n'es pas obligé de les relier à un thésaurus. Ca peut être des champs à saisir librement. | |
| 07:08 | en UNIMARC strict, ce devrait être des listes d'autorité. | |
| 07:08 | mais vous n'avez peut être pas besoin de ca ;-) | |
| 07:08 | osmoze | en fait, si je l enleve, personne n y voit que du feu |
| 07:21 | de plus, je pense avoir un petit probleme au niveau de l intranet, quand je veux changer de site, le clic de la souris ne fonctionne pas, cela fonctionne qu avec la touche entré positionné dessus, je n ai rien vu de telle dans la mailing, une idée ? | |
| 07:21 | (le bouton valider) | |
| 07:21 | paul | ??? non, aucune |
| 07:29 | paul_away | oups, clic un peu rapide... |
| 07:30 | paul | osmoze : l'adresse ne fonctionne pas |
| 07:30 | (pas de réponse du serveur) | |
| 07:31 | osmoze | hum..je regarde |
| 07:45 | ma redirection dns ne marche plus, je regarde et reviens :) | |
| 08:00 | paul, peux tu reessayer ? | |
| 08:00 | paul | redonne l'adresse |
| 08:00 | osmoze | koha.homelinux.org |
| 10:13 | kados | hi all |
| 10:14 | Athens County has major power probs today | |
| 10:14 | my home network has been down for about 18 hours | |
| 10:14 | :-( |
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