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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 12:33 | thd | kados: are you present? |
| 12:38 | kados | thd: occassionally ;-) |
| 12:40 | tim | I just tried installing Koha on my desktop at home and get an internal server error (500) after the splash screen on the opac. |
| 12:40 | intranet seems to work fine. | |
| 12:42 | The last error in opac_error_log is Premature end of script headers: opac-main.pl | |
| 12:43 | I'm guessing it has something to do with the 6 errors before that :) | |
| 12:43 | thd | kados: I have not sent the holdiings $t message to koha-dev yet but explained it to paul. It is not a priority to address now but would make migration to Koha much easier, etc. in future with record exchange benefits |
| 12:43 | tim: what are the 6 error messages | |
| 12:45 | kados: I communicated with chris and rach last night about the original Koha design and how closely it does or does not match the FRBR model | |
| 12:46 | kados: Did you find a solution for reserving a damaged item? | |
| 12:46 | tim | HTML::Template->new() : Cannot open included file /usr/local/koha/opac/htdocs/opac-tmpl/default/en/opac-main.tmpl : file not found. at /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.4/HTML/Template.pm line 1616 |
| 12:47 | tHTML::Template::_init_template('HTML::Template=HASH(0x821631c)') called at /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.4/HTML/Template.pm line 1189 | |
| 12:47 | HTML::Template::_init('HTML::Template=HASH(0x821631c)') called at /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.4/HTML/Template.pm line 1083 | |
| 12:47 | HTML::Template::new('HTML::Template', 'filename', '/usr/local/koha/opac/htdocs/opac-tmpl/default/en/opac-main.tmpl', 'die_on_bad_params', 0, 'global_vars', 1, 'path', 'ARRAY(0x899c6f0)', ...) called at /usr/local/koha/intranet/modules/C4/Output.pm line 77 | |
| 12:48 | C4::Output::gettemplate('opac-main.tmpl', 'opac', 'CGI=HASH(0x8144cd4)') called at /usr/local/koha/intranet/modules/C4/Auth.pm line 114 | |
| 12:48 | C4::Auth::get_template_and_user('HASH(0x8983d74)') called at /usr/local/koha/opac/cgi-bin/opac-main.pl line 32 | |
| 12:48 | Wanted to paste one at a time to avoid flooding. | |
| 12:50 | thd | tim can you locate /usr/local/koha/opac/htdocs/opac-tmpl/default/en/opac-main.tmpl ? |
| 12:51 | tim: what comes back from 'ls -l /usr/local/koha/opac/htdocs/opac-tmpl/default/en/opac-main.tmpl' ? | |
| 12:51 | tim | That's wierd. There's no default. |
| 12:52 | thd | tim: sudo ls -l /usr/local/koha/opac/htdocs/opac-tmpl/default/en/opac-main.tmpl |
| 12:52 | tim | I did a symlink to npl named default and it works now. I wonde why it wasn't installed. |
| 12:53 | I just have css, npl and vanilla | |
| 12:54 | Thanks! It probably woulda bee a while before I looked there. I was thinking it would be a script problem. | |
| 12:55 | thd | tim: file not found led to all the script problems |
| 12:56 | time could the directory be there with the wrong user and group name so that you do not see it? | |
| 12:57 | tim: Of course, if you made a symlink now, that would have overwritten it. | |
| 12:58 | tim | I see those errors and the dyslexia kicks in big-time. Shoulda took more time to read 'em and bump up the font size too. |
| 12:58 | I was looking at the directory as root. | |
| 12:59 | of course I still coulda missed the problem anyway. | |
| 13:03 | thd | tim: If you have no extensive configuration or data, try dropping the database and deleting /etc/koha.conf and /usr/local/koha/* then reinstalling to see if the default template will appear. I do not know the minimal steps to force recreation of the directory but it should be in the expanded tarball. |
| 13:05 | tim: see if you have the directory in the expanded tarball and copy it to the correct location. Then change the ownership and permissions to whatever is required for the Koha templates directories. | |
| 13:06 | tim | The tarball doesn't have it. |
| 13:07 | Now that I have it running I'm not to bothered by it. I'll start working on our own templates. | |
| 13:10 | thd | tim: if you copy a template directory to a new name, Koha reads the name from the file system and you can choose it in Koha system preferences. |
| 13:12 | kados: Did you find a solution for reserving a damaged item? chris and rach said that there was a problem with the default NPLtemplates for accessing some functionality recently. Katipo has a new template for that. | |
| 13:14 | owen | tim, you still there? |
| 13:14 | thd | kados: I did not identify the new template before chris and rach left. paul also told me that some related functionality is disabled when MARC is on. |
| 13:19 | above s/default NPLtemplates/default and NPL templates/ | |
| 13:28 | tim | owen: I'm back |
| 13:29 | I copied the NPL templates to a WLPL folder. | |
| 13:29 | for editing | |
| 13:30 | owen | About the default thing: the default OPAC templates are out of date |
| 13:30 | I've talked to Paul about removing them from CVS | |
| 13:30 | Maybe that's why they weren't in the download? | |
| 13:31 | thd | owen: Are the NPL templates are missing the help link? |
| 13:31 | tim | hmm... It probably shouldn't default to default if it's not there. |
| 13:32 | owen | Yeah, I agree |
| 13:32 | The CSS templates should simply be renamed | |
| 13:32 | (in the short term) | |
| 13:32 | thd: in the intranet? | |
| 13:32 | thd | owen: yes |
| 13:33 | owen | You should see a question mark in the upper-right corner of the screen |
| 13:36 | Is it there? | |
| 13:39 | thd | yes |
| 13:40 | The '?' did not signify with me. I just ignored it. | |
| 13:41 | owen | Yeah, it kinda blends with the login info. But it was actually trying to make it unobtrusive. |
| 13:43 | thd | Very compact but not what I would have expected. I guess when one wants help one hopes that the 'don't panic button' is printed in large friendly letters. Unobtrusive is better in all other circumstances :-) |
| 13:46 | thd: I tend to associate '?' as 'help' with GUI interfaces that I have not used much. | |
| 13:49 | owen: Is there a way in the NPL template to assign an item to a an itemtype? | |
| 13:49 | owen | I'm not sure I understand what you mean |
| 13:51 | thd | owen: If I have itemtype 'damaged send for rebinding' then I want to assign an item to that item type when a previously good item is returned with the pages detatchd from the cover. |
| 13:52 | owen: the circ rules for 'damaged send for rebinding' would be set to does not circulate. | |
| 13:53 | owen: I thought kados was asking you about how to do this yesterday. | |
| 13:56 | owen: a similar case to assign a damaged item to itemtype 'damaged hold in reserve--too fragile to circulate'. | |
| 13:57 | owen | Sorry--I just got called to a meeting. Back soon. |
| 01:21 | thd | chris, rach: ping |
| 01:30 | chris: ping | |
| 01:45 | si: ping | |
| 01:56 | indradg | thd, looks like everyone is away atm ;) |
| 02:03 | si | it is saturday night here... |
| 02:33 | thd | si: koha.org and katipo.nz are down again |
| 02:37 | si: my notice is not a complaint only a query about the proximate and general cause | |
| 02:38 | si | disk failure |
| 02:39 | thd | si: that sounds very bad |
| 02:39 | si | yes, it's a bit tedious |
| 02:39 | it'll be back up in a couple of hours | |
| 02:39 | hopefully :-) | |
| 02:40 | thd | I will try to survive with only a cache until later :-) |
| 02:42 | si: I had wondered if the power grid is reliable where you are. | |
| 02:42 | si | it's pretty good |
| 02:42 | we had a UPS failure the other night, which took it down for a couple of hours | |
| 02:43 | that's been rectified | |
| 02:43 | but the disk has been sick in the koha.org server for a few days now | |
| 02:43 | I've just been waiting for the weekend to put it out of it's misery | |
| 02:44 | the power grid is ok, though - we'd get maybe three 1-2 minute outages per year | |
| 02:44 | and one 15-30 minute one every 2-3 years | |
| 02:44 | when a bolt of lightening hits a substation or similar | |
| 02:44 | it's a lot more reliable than a lot of other parts of the world | |
| 02:45 | thd | si: I have been so long without disc failure that some of my backup practises have become very lax |
| 02:45 | si | scheduled building power outages actually create more outages than unscheduled power co ones |
| 02:49 | thd | my backup media fails while my source media keeps running for the past 9 years :-) |
| 02:50 | si | we use disks for source and target - I've certainly given up on any removeable media as a backup |
| 02:51 | thd | si: what do you do for fire or flood if you have no removable media? |
| 02:58 | chris | back up to a another machine about 630km north of wellington |
| 02:59 | si | in my day job I run a GigE metro ethernet around wellington |
| 02:59 | I have a *lot* of bandwidth to play with | |
| 02:59 | so we just put backup disk in other buildings, both in wellington, and elsewhere | |
| 03:00 | I've even got one in San Francisco | |
| 03:03 | thd | Magnificent. If I had bandwidth, I would backup to the other side of the continent. I am lucky if I transport some unreliable media to another part of the city. |
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